Does anyone think the up-tempo offense will mask our O-line?
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Sorry, I was laughing too hard to respond to your post.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
1st - Jordan Polk was NOT a 4* guy (Scout 3*, Rivals 2*, ESPN 3*)
2nd - Mickens stats = 1 season Polk = career
Stick to calling me a Doog, etc. It is obvious facts are not your friend. -
He_Needs_More_Time said:
He'll play this year but I don't think he's going to add much to his totals with Kasen, ASJ, Kevin Smith is back healthy(supposedly), DiAndre Campbell, Kendyl Taylor back at Wr plus three 4* true frosh WR's.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It is a horrible comparison if Mickens plays another year.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
Also I was trying to think of a 4* WR bust off the top of my head and Polk came to mind. I couldn't compare him to the blue collar hard working Steve Largent lunch pale of a WR like Cody Bruns. -
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of calling you president of the Jordan Polk fan club.IrishDawg22 said:
Sorry, I was laughing too hard to respond to your post.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
1st - Jordan Polk was NOT a 4* guy (Scout 3*, Rivals 2*, ESPN 3*)
2nd - Mickens stats = 1 season Polk = career
Stick to calling me a Doog, etc. It is obvious facts are not your friend.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of saying that you claimed Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you took implications made by HeNeedsMoreTime to create your own "spin," all the while discrediting everything he said by claiming that he is "spinning". -
He just trolls it's what he did on dawgboard. He will never give up an argument and just continue to spin more shit to make his point. Just read his spin job on how the Seahawks aren't a run first team despite every statistic showing that they are.BAMAdawg10 said:
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of calling you president of the Jordan Polk fan club.IrishDawg22 said:
Sorry, I was laughing too hard to respond to your post.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
1st - Jordan Polk was NOT a 4* guy (Scout 3*, Rivals 2*, ESPN 3*)
2nd - Mickens stats = 1 season Polk = career
Stick to calling me a Doog, etc. It is obvious facts are not your friend.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of saying that you claimed Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you took implications made by HeNeedsMoreTime to create your own "spin," all the while discrediting everything he said by claiming that he is "spinning". -
This just in, Jordan Polk is now a 5* guy that never developed.
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Another classic screenshot.He_Needs_More_Time said:
He just trolls it's what he did on dawgboard. He will never give up an argument and just continue to spin more shit to make his point. Just read his spin job on how the Seahawks aren't a run first team despite every statistic showing that they are.BAMAdawg10 said:
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of calling you president of the Jordan Polk fan club.IrishDawg22 said:
Sorry, I was laughing too hard to respond to your post.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
1st - Jordan Polk was NOT a 4* guy (Scout 3*, Rivals 2*, ESPN 3*)
2nd - Mickens stats = 1 season Polk = career
Stick to calling me a Doog, etc. It is obvious facts are not your friend.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of saying that you claimed Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you took implications made by HeNeedsMoreTime to create your own "spin," all the while discrediting everything he said by claiming that he is "spinning".
Can you link where I said the Hawks are not a run 1st team?
Clean the shit off you keyboard before you post. -
Pete Carroll hired Yes Men at USC. That's what Sark was. It still comes from the top.RoadDawg55 said:
I prefer the Todd Elstrom being the #1 WR on the 2000 team as an example of line play over WR's. The Lambright coached Janoski teams were not that great, and are not the best example considering they never really won anything.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well no shit time-needer. Football has always been about the point-of-attack. The OL and TEs !!! Dave Janoski was aHe_Needs_More_Time said:This is why I think OL recruiting/player development is so important. I feel like you can mask average WR's(James era and the 2000 RB title team are proof of that), you can even mask an average RB(rankin had a big year for UW), in college you can mask an average QB if he's smart.
On offense though you can't mask an average to bad OL. They will always be exposed if they are bad. It won't matter what offense you run your OL will be exposed.
Besides Price isn't the type of QB like a Wilson or even a Locker who can "mask" the OL far as sacks given up. The OL will be terrible this year and the no huddle should hurt them as you are running more plays. Just more opportunities to fuck it up.
our featured wide receiver for f*** sake. nothing has changed except our head coach and the quality of oline recruiting.
Ill take Janoski and that Oline anyday over the 14 fucking WR's we have on the roster. Sark has his head so far up his stinkhole he doesn't know if he's running or throwing.
at USC it was quite simple. run the f****** football. student body right. then burn people with Dwayne Jarrett on f****** crossing routes and corner posts. It was such a simple offense and they just flat beat up everybody they played because the oline just crushed the guys in front of them.
UW hasn't been able to do that because Sark hasn't recruited those types of athletes to man the point of attack, so he has to get cute and throw the ball all over the yard. Jesus Sark, call your old buddy Nuss, go visit an Alabama practice. Refresh your memory on what it takes to be a consistent winner at this level.
I do agree with the rest of your post. The problem is, Sark has assembled a bunch of yes men to compose his offensive coaching staff. Nobody reigns him in like Carroll did at USC. He is incredibly predictable as well. If he has an incomplete pass on first down, he runs on second down. If our defense forces a turnover, he tries to go deep every time (This drives me crazy!) -
Can you link where he claimed you said Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey?IrishDawg22 said:
Another classic screenshot.He_Needs_More_Time said:
He just trolls it's what he did on dawgboard. He will never give up an argument and just continue to spin more shit to make his point. Just read his spin job on how the Seahawks aren't a run first team despite every statistic showing that they are.BAMAdawg10 said:
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of calling you president of the Jordan Polk fan club.IrishDawg22 said:
Sorry, I was laughing too hard to respond to your post.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
1st - Jordan Polk was NOT a 4* guy (Scout 3*, Rivals 2*, ESPN 3*)
2nd - Mickens stats = 1 season Polk = career
Stick to calling me a Doog, etc. It is obvious facts are not your friend.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of saying that you claimed Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you took implications made by HeNeedsMoreTime to create your own "spin," all the while discrediting everything he said by claiming that he is "spinning".
Can you link where I said the Hawks are not a run 1st team?
Clean the shit off you keyboard before you post.
If you're going to accuse posters of making shit up, it's probably a good idea that you don't do it yourself. -
Did you miss the exaggeration post?BAMAdawg10 said:
Can you link where he claimed you said Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey?IrishDawg22 said:
Another classic screenshot.He_Needs_More_Time said:
He just trolls it's what he did on dawgboard. He will never give up an argument and just continue to spin more shit to make his point. Just read his spin job on how the Seahawks aren't a run first team despite every statistic showing that they are.BAMAdawg10 said:
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of calling you president of the Jordan Polk fan club.IrishDawg22 said:
Sorry, I was laughing too hard to respond to your post.He_Needs_More_Time said:BTW
Jaydon Mickens career has 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC)
Jordan Polk career had 16 receptions for 191 yards(11.9 YPC)
What a "horrible" comparison comparing those two 4* WR's who have eerily similar stats.
1st - Jordan Polk was NOT a 4* guy (Scout 3*, Rivals 2*, ESPN 3*)
2nd - Mickens stats = 1 season Polk = career
Stick to calling me a Doog, etc. It is obvious facts are not your friend.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you accuse HeNeedsMoreTime of saying that you claimed Jordan Polk was the second coming of Mario Bailey.
Fact - he never did.
Fact - you took implications made by HeNeedsMoreTime to create your own "spin," all the while discrediting everything he said by claiming that he is "spinning".
Can you link where I said the Hawks are not a run 1st team?
Clean the shit off you keyboard before you post.
If you're going to accuse posters of making shit up, it's probably a good idea that you don't do it yourself.
Step 1 - he compares Mickens to Polk
Step 2 - I point out Mickens did more in 1 yr than Polk did in his entire career
Step 3 - he changes argument to 20 catches in a year is not good. I use a dash of sarcasm combined with a splash of exaggeration to point out I never claimed 20 catches was good, just better than Polk's entire career.
HTH
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I agree it comes from the top, but I disagree about Carroll hiring yes men. Say what you want about Sark and Kiffin, but they were very ambitous young coaches. I don't think Chow, Oregeron, and Norton were yes men either.DerekJohnson said:
Pete Carroll hired Yes Men at USC. That's what Sark was. It still comes from the top.RoadDawg55 said:
I prefer the Todd Elstrom being the #1 WR on the 2000 team as an example of line play over WR's. The Lambright coached Janoski teams were not that great, and are not the best example considering they never really won anything.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well no shit time-needer. Football has always been about the point-of-attack. The OL and TEs !!! Dave Janoski was aHe_Needs_More_Time said:This is why I think OL recruiting/player development is so important. I feel like you can mask average WR's(James era and the 2000 RB title team are proof of that), you can even mask an average RB(rankin had a big year for UW), in college you can mask an average QB if he's smart.
On offense though you can't mask an average to bad OL. They will always be exposed if they are bad. It won't matter what offense you run your OL will be exposed.
Besides Price isn't the type of QB like a Wilson or even a Locker who can "mask" the OL far as sacks given up. The OL will be terrible this year and the no huddle should hurt them as you are running more plays. Just more opportunities to fuck it up.
our featured wide receiver for f*** sake. nothing has changed except our head coach and the quality of oline recruiting.
Ill take Janoski and that Oline anyday over the 14 fucking WR's we have on the roster. Sark has his head so far up his stinkhole he doesn't know if he's running or throwing.
at USC it was quite simple. run the f****** football. student body right. then burn people with Dwayne Jarrett on f****** crossing routes and corner posts. It was such a simple offense and they just flat beat up everybody they played because the oline just crushed the guys in front of them.
UW hasn't been able to do that because Sark hasn't recruited those types of athletes to man the point of attack, so he has to get cute and throw the ball all over the yard. Jesus Sark, call your old buddy Nuss, go visit an Alabama practice. Refresh your memory on what it takes to be a consistent winner at this level.
I do agree with the rest of your post. The problem is, Sark has assembled a bunch of yes men to compose his offensive coaching staff. Nobody reigns him in like Carroll did at USC. He is incredibly predictable as well. If he has an incomplete pass on first down, he runs on second down. If our defense forces a turnover, he tries to go deep every time (This drives me crazy!)
Kiesau, Nansen, and Dougherty are yes men. When Nuss left, what did Sark do? He didn't go out and hire the best replacement he could, he hired a guy who had already failed as an OC who was really a WR coach. Even this year with Tui, Sark did not go out and hire the best, proven QB coach, he hired a first time QB coach. I don't see him hiring a staff that will challenge him.
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