Does anyone think the up-tempo offense will mask our O-line?
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"My offense has withstood the test of time." - Steve Sarkisian 2009-2012PurpleJ said:No. The OL will perform how they perform regardless of what offense is being run. You can't mask your OL play with a different scheme, in fact, it might make it look even worse.
I'm sure it will make a nice excuse, though. "We are need more time to get these guys understanding the new offense and the blocking schemes." Or something along those lines. Remember all that shit Sark talked about running a pro-style offense in order to prepare our guys for the NFL? What happened to that?
He doesn't seem to be saying this anymore.
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I wish our media wasn't so worried about access and do their fucking jobs. I'd love for them to bring up that quote to Sark and ask him what has changed?RoadDawg55 said:
"My offense has withstood the test of time." - Steve Sarkisian 2009-2012PurpleJ said:No. The OL will perform how they perform regardless of what offense is being run. You can't mask your OL play with a different scheme, in fact, it might make it look even worse.
I'm sure it will make a nice excuse, though. "We are need more time to get these guys understanding the new offense and the blocking schemes." Or something along those lines. Remember all that shit Sark talked about running a pro-style offense in order to prepare our guys for the NFL? What happened to that?
He doesn't seem to be saying this anymore. -
20 catches in 13 games isn't impressive.IrishDawg22 said:
Next Jordan Polk??? Mickens had 20 catches despite the drops in his frosh year. Polk didn't have 20 catches in 3 years.He_Needs_More_Time said:Mickens is the next Jordan Polk. He'll be suddenly seniored going into 2015.
I don't have much faith in a kid who can't catch. Sure he has speed much like J.Polk did but he doesn't appear to be a WR. With Ross, Daniels, Stringfellow coming in plus Taylor back to WR. Not to mention Sark is always bringing in 4 star WR's it's now time for Mickens.
As always I hope I'm wrong on this kid would be nice to see someone in this program make a big leap for once.
And once again you claim no one has developed in this program.
How do you see your screen with all the shit piled up from your keyboard?
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Indeed. However, it does mask talent deficiencies for Oregon.tracker said:
It works for Oregon because their players are very well-coached in blocking and staying true to their assignments. . .everyone operates at a high level. It was Kelly's "attention-to-detail" that made it work. Haven't seen that from Sark yet.dtd said:Works for Oregon.
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I watch lots of video on young black men, and Ross looks like a stud. Oregon wanted him badly. For football.RoadDawg55 said:I would like to get excited about Ross, but I remember the reports on Mickens from last year saying the same things.
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Mickens in 13 games(most of which were starts) in a passing offense only had 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC) with a touchdown.IrishDawg22 said:
Next Jordan Polk??? Mickens had 20 catches despite the drops in his frosh year. Polk didn't have 20 catches in 3 years.He_Needs_More_Time said:Mickens is the next Jordan Polk. He'll be suddenly seniored going into 2015.
I don't have much faith in a kid who can't catch. Sure he has speed much like J.Polk did but he doesn't appear to be a WR. With Ross, Daniels, Stringfellow coming in plus Taylor back to WR. Not to mention Sark is always bringing in 4 star WR's it's now time for Mickens.
As always I hope I'm wrong on this kid would be nice to see someone in this program make a big leap for once.
And once again you claim no one has developed in this program.
How do you see your screen with all the shit piled up from your keyboard?
He wasn't very good at all. -
Oh come on, do you have any idea how young he is?He_Needs_More_Time said:
Mickens in 13 games(most of which were starts) in a passing offense only had 20 receptions for 190 yards(9.5 YPC) with a touchdown.IrishDawg22 said:
Next Jordan Polk??? Mickens had 20 catches despite the drops in his frosh year. Polk didn't have 20 catches in 3 years.He_Needs_More_Time said:Mickens is the next Jordan Polk. He'll be suddenly seniored going into 2015.
I don't have much faith in a kid who can't catch. Sure he has speed much like J.Polk did but he doesn't appear to be a WR. With Ross, Daniels, Stringfellow coming in plus Taylor back to WR. Not to mention Sark is always bringing in 4 star WR's it's now time for Mickens.
As always I hope I'm wrong on this kid would be nice to see someone in this program make a big leap for once.
And once again you claim no one has developed in this program.
How do you see your screen with all the shit piled up from your keyboard?
He wasn't very good at all. -
Well no shit time-needer. Football has always been about the point-of-attack. The OL and TEs !!! Dave Janoski was aHe_Needs_More_Time said:This is why I think OL recruiting/player development is so important. I feel like you can mask average WR's(James era and the 2000 RB title team are proof of that), you can even mask an average RB(rankin had a big year for UW), in college you can mask an average QB if he's smart.
On offense though you can't mask an average to bad OL. They will always be exposed if they are bad. It won't matter what offense you run your OL will be exposed.
Besides Price isn't the type of QB like a Wilson or even a Locker who can "mask" the OL far as sacks given up. The OL will be terrible this year and the no huddle should hurt them as you are running more plays. Just more opportunities to fuck it up.
our featured wide receiver for f*** sake. nothing has changed except our head coach and the quality of oline recruiting.
Ill take Janoski and that Oline anyday over the 14 fucking WR's we have on the roster. Sark has his head so far up his stinkhole he doesn't know if he's running or throwing.
at USC it was quite simple. run the f****** football. student body right. then burn people with Dwayne Jarrett on f****** crossing routes and corner posts. It was such a simple offense and they just flat beat up everybody they played because the oline just crushed the guys in front of them.
UW hasn't been able to do that because Sark hasn't recruited those types of athletes to man the point of attack, so he has to get cute and throw the ball all over the yard. Jesus Sark, call your old buddy Nuss, go visit an Alabama practice. Refresh your memory on what it takes to be a consistent winner at this level.
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I prefer the Todd Elstrom being the #1 WR on the 2000 team as an example of line play over WR's. The Lambright coached Janoski teams were not that great, and are not the best example considering they never really won anything.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Well no shit time-needer. Football has always been about the point-of-attack. The OL and TEs !!! Dave Janoski was aHe_Needs_More_Time said:This is why I think OL recruiting/player development is so important. I feel like you can mask average WR's(James era and the 2000 RB title team are proof of that), you can even mask an average RB(rankin had a big year for UW), in college you can mask an average QB if he's smart.
On offense though you can't mask an average to bad OL. They will always be exposed if they are bad. It won't matter what offense you run your OL will be exposed.
Besides Price isn't the type of QB like a Wilson or even a Locker who can "mask" the OL far as sacks given up. The OL will be terrible this year and the no huddle should hurt them as you are running more plays. Just more opportunities to fuck it up.
our featured wide receiver for f*** sake. nothing has changed except our head coach and the quality of oline recruiting.
Ill take Janoski and that Oline anyday over the 14 fucking WR's we have on the roster. Sark has his head so far up his stinkhole he doesn't know if he's running or throwing.
at USC it was quite simple. run the f****** football. student body right. then burn people with Dwayne Jarrett on f****** crossing routes and corner posts. It was such a simple offense and they just flat beat up everybody they played because the oline just crushed the guys in front of them.
UW hasn't been able to do that because Sark hasn't recruited those types of athletes to man the point of attack, so he has to get cute and throw the ball all over the yard. Jesus Sark, call your old buddy Nuss, go visit an Alabama practice. Refresh your memory on what it takes to be a consistent winner at this level.
I do agree with the rest of your post. The problem is, Sark has assembled a bunch of yes men to compose his offensive coaching staff. Nobody reigns him in like Carroll did at USC. He is incredibly predictable as well. If he has an incomplete pass on first down, he runs on second down. If our defense forces a turnover, he tries to go deep every time (This drives me crazy!)
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PurpleJ said:
No. The OL will perform how they perform regardless of what offense is being run. You can't mask your OL play with a different scheme, in fact, it might make it look even worse.
I'm sure it will make a nice excuse, though. "We are need more time to get these guys understanding the new offense and the blocking schemes." Or something along those lines. Remember all that shit Sark talked about running a pro-style offense in order to prepare our guys for the NFL? What happened to that?</</b>blockquote>
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