How do you think the SEC would have done had they faced the Pac's bowel opponents? And vice versa?
The Pac might be better, but the bowel record doesn't prove it. We're talking massive difference in level of opponents.
Wisconsin and Notre Dame are not good. The Mississippi's didn't lose close games, they got plungered.
There is zero evidence the SEC is any good this year. Their best win of non conference or bowl season might be Boise State. Kansas State and Louisville are the next two best.
You can make the vice versa argument every year.
Not really, because the SEC always has TUFFer opponents and oftentimes has better records.
Fuck it there's time before the UW game, let's play it out. Here's Pac teams replacing SEC teams:
Ohio State vs Oregon - We'll find out for real next week, but I'm taking Oregon. W Georgia Tech vs Arizona - L TCU vs UCLA - L Louisville vs ASU - Louisville got worked by UGA. OTOH, ASU barely beat Duke. Toss up. Minnesota vs USC - Toss up Wisconsin vs Utah - L Notre Dame vs Stanford - Hard to call this one for the Pac, considering ND already beat them. I still think Stanford's better though, so we'll go Toss up. West Virginia vs UW - Peterman with a month to prepare equals a W We still have 5 SEC bowel games with no eligible Pac representative. Since the Pac has two less teams, we'll only play out the next 3: Texas vs Cal - toss up but I'd take Texas Miami vs Oregon State - all Canes in the Dennis Erickson Bowel. L Iowa vs PostGameCuogSlices - doog legend gets one. L
If the Pac played the SEC bowel schedule they'd be very, very hard pressed to be the 6-5 the SEC is. I only found 2 sure wins and four toss ups. Basically everything would have to break right for the Pac to match the SEC's record.
Going 2-1 against ranked opponents in bowls doesn't prove shit, especially when none of those games were against the SEC.
No one can ever prove shit in college football. We are talking about a sample size of less than 20 intra conference matchups per conference.
No shit one game doesn't prove anything. But the bowel season as a whole constitutes close to half of our total information on relative conference strength.
So that whole SEC WEST greatest division of all time thing that was based on a Wisconsin chokejob, and wins over XII turds TTech, KSU, and WVU?
Yeah...that turned out not to be a thing.
If the bowel season gives us half of the information we need, the Pac-12 plays the softest OOC out of all the Power five conferences. Look at the fucking dreck they are beating during bowl season. Two ranked opponents and one of those has ZERO CFP top 25 wins.
You're right that the SEC West turned out to suck. So does every other conference.
That's great. Relative strength is all that matters.
So when you say it turned out that the SEC West sucks just like everyone else you are actually admitting there is parity. I.e. the Sec West isn't the unstoppable juggernaut you were crowing about all season.
How do you think the SEC would have done had they faced the Pac's bowel opponents? And vice versa?
The Pac might be better, but the bowel record doesn't prove it. We're talking massive difference in level of opponents.
Wisconsin and Notre Dame are not good. The Mississippi's didn't lose close games, they got plungered.
There is zero evidence the SEC is any good this year. Their best win of non conference or bowl season might be Boise State. Kansas State and Louisville are the next two best.
You can make the vice versa argument every year.
Some years a dominant conference emerges.
This year was a national #FuckingDreckfest with zero good conferences.
So it goes.
So let me get this straight. When the SEC does well in the bowl season, they are the dominant conference. When they suck, then everyone else sucks as well. Did I get that right?
Going 2-1 against ranked opponents in bowls doesn't prove shit, especially when none of those games were against the SEC.
No one can ever prove shit in college football. We are talking about a sample size of less than 20 intra conference matchups per conference.
No shit one game doesn't prove anything. But the bowel season as a whole constitutes close to half of our total information on relative conference strength.
So that whole SEC WEST greatest division of all time thing that was based on a Wisconsin chokejob, and wins over XII turds TTech, KSU, and WVU?
Yeah...that turned out not to be a thing.
If the bowel season gives us half of the information we need, the Pac-12 plays the softest OOC out of all the Power five conferences. Look at the fucking dreck they are beating during bowl season. Two ranked opponents and one of those has ZERO CFP top 25 wins.
You're right that the SEC West turned out to suck. So does every other conference.
That's great. Relative strength is all that matters.
So when you say it turned out that the SEC West sucks just like everyone else you are actually admitting there is parity. I.e. the Sec West isn't the unstoppable juggernaut you were crowing about all season.
Without the playoff we'd have Alabama beat Fl St in the NC and hear how incredible the SEC is.
Obviously it didn't work out that way.
We don't know how many years would have been different than the self fulfilling voting of NC games with one team required to be from the SEC.
If Hundley was a first-year starter, I would be excited about his upside. Given that he's been in the program since like 1978, I think it's safe to say that he kinda sucks
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Fuck it there's time before the UW game, let's play it out. Here's Pac teams replacing SEC teams:
Ohio State vs Oregon - We'll find out for real next week, but I'm taking Oregon. W
Georgia Tech vs Arizona - L
TCU vs UCLA - L
Louisville vs ASU - Louisville got worked by UGA. OTOH, ASU barely beat Duke. Toss up.
Minnesota vs USC - Toss up
Wisconsin vs Utah - L
Notre Dame vs Stanford - Hard to call this one for the Pac, considering ND already beat them. I still think Stanford's better though, so we'll go Toss up.
West Virginia vs UW - Peterman with a month to prepare equals a W
We still have 5 SEC bowel games with no eligible Pac representative. Since the Pac has two less teams, we'll only play out the next 3:
Texas vs Cal - toss up but I'd take Texas
Miami vs Oregon State - all Canes in the Dennis Erickson Bowel. L
Iowa vs PostGameCuogSlices - doog legend gets one. L
If the Pac played the SEC bowel schedule they'd be very, very hard pressed to be the 6-5 the SEC is. I only found 2 sure wins and four toss ups. Basically everything would have to break right for the Pac to match the SEC's record.
So when you say it turned out that the SEC West sucks just like everyone else you are actually admitting there is parity. I.e. the Sec West isn't the unstoppable juggernaut you were crowing about all season.
Hundley may have saved the game.
Heisman Hundley saves the day right there.
Obviously it didn't work out that way.
We don't know how many years would have been different than the self fulfilling voting of NC games with one team required to be from the SEC.