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    kh83kh83 Member Posts: 596
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    Could he have meant Kasen?
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    BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
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    Leonard Williams is for sure gone. He's top 5 on most draft boards. Most physically dominant lineman I saw all year in the Pac12, by a wide margin. Buck Allen is a fucktard if he stays. Agholor I could see go either way.

    Sark is FUCKED if Kessler leaves. Not sure Kessler has much more upside to show in college, just more time for NFL scouts to pick apart his game and his lack of size and athleticism. Plus I assume he has his degree already as a RS Junior. My guess is he stays though as he probably doesn't have much draft potential this year anyway.

    I've never been overly impressed with Leonard Williams. He looks like a monster and is always touted as a top 5 pick, but his production didn't always match that. I realize what I am saying is different from what NFL scouts say.

    Shelton was more dominant imo. Kikaha, Orchard, and Henry Anderson were all great as well.
    He didn't produce a lot of stats, but he was coached by Kiffin and Sark for 3 years so give him a break. How impressed were you guys with Shelton after his first 3 years with Sark?

    Danny Shelton will be a first or second round pick - but if you are going to scout on stats alone you need to dig deeper on Danny Boy. Half his tackles, over half his TFLs, and nearly all his sacks occured out of conference vs that 4some of Special Olympians you guys played.

    LW had more tackles TFLs and Sacks than Shelton in conference games
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Leonard Williams is for sure gone. He's top 5 on most draft boards. Most physically dominant lineman I saw all year in the Pac12, by a wide margin. Buck Allen is a fucktard if he stays. Agholor I could see go either way.

    Sark is FUCKED if Kessler leaves. Not sure Kessler has much more upside to show in college, just more time for NFL scouts to pick apart his game and his lack of size and athleticism. Plus I assume he has his degree already as a RS Junior. My guess is he stays though as he probably doesn't have much draft potential this year anyway.

    I've never been overly impressed with Leonard Williams. He looks like a monster and is always touted as a top 5 pick, but his production didn't always match that. I realize what I am saying is different from what NFL scouts say.

    Shelton was more dominant imo. Kikaha, Orchard, and Henry Anderson were all great as well.
    He didn't produce a lot of stats, but he was coached by Kiffin and Sark for 3 years so give him a break. How impressed were you guys with Shelton after his first 3 years with Sark?

    Danny Shelton will be a first or second round pick - but if you are going to scout on stats alone you need to dig deeper on Danny Boy. Half his tackles, over half his TFLs, and nearly all his sacks occured out of conference vs that 4some of Special Olympians you guys played.

    LW had more tackles TFLs and Sacks than Shelton in conference games
    I've seen dominant college DL. Williams ain't one of them yet. A lot of Williams hype is based on his potential. I felt the same way about Dion Jordan. Both guys looked the part and were great athletes, but the production never matched the hype. I predict Williams will be decent, but essentially a bust if he's picked top 5.
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    BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
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    Leonard Williams is for sure gone. He's top 5 on most draft boards. Most physically dominant lineman I saw all year in the Pac12, by a wide margin. Buck Allen is a fucktard if he stays. Agholor I could see go either way.

    Sark is FUCKED if Kessler leaves. Not sure Kessler has much more upside to show in college, just more time for NFL scouts to pick apart his game and his lack of size and athleticism. Plus I assume he has his degree already as a RS Junior. My guess is he stays though as he probably doesn't have much draft potential this year anyway.

    I've never been overly impressed with Leonard Williams. He looks like a monster and is always touted as a top 5 pick, but his production didn't always match that. I realize what I am saying is different from what NFL scouts say.

    Shelton was more dominant imo. Kikaha, Orchard, and Henry Anderson were all great as well.
    He didn't produce a lot of stats, but he was coached by Kiffin and Sark for 3 years so give him a break. How impressed were you guys with Shelton after his first 3 years with Sark?

    Danny Shelton will be a first or second round pick - but if you are going to scout on stats alone you need to dig deeper on Danny Boy. Half his tackles, over half his TFLs, and nearly all his sacks occured out of conference vs that 4some of Special Olympians you guys played.

    LW had more tackles TFLs and Sacks than Shelton in conference games
    I've seen dominant college DL. Williams ain't one of them yet. A lot of Williams hype is based on his potential. I felt the same way about Dion Jordan. Both guys looked the part and were great athletes, but the production never matched the hype. I predict Williams will be decent, but essentially a bust if he's picked top 5.
    You may be right, but Williams is way better that Dion Jordan.
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    section8section8 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,581
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    Leonard Williams is for sure gone. He's top 5 on most draft boards. Most physically dominant lineman I saw all year in the Pac12, by a wide margin. Buck Allen is a fucktard if he stays. Agholor I could see go either way.

    Sark is FUCKED if Kessler leaves. Not sure Kessler has much more upside to show in college, just more time for NFL scouts to pick apart his game and his lack of size and athleticism. Plus I assume he has his degree already as a RS Junior. My guess is he stays though as he probably doesn't have much draft potential this year anyway.

    I've never seen Max Browne play, but he was the number 1 QB out of high school. Is he really that overrated?
    With a good coach, maybe not but with Sark he could be fucked unless the NFL scouts place a premium on throwing bubble screens.
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