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WilburHooksHands
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I hope SEC wins out and Bama stays at 1. I'd love to see TCU play Oregon and I think TCU wins. Not sure if anyone beats Bama yet.
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As for Bama, I don't think they are indestructable, they are just the typical really big and physical. I can't think of a team that Oregon or TCU have played that I can compare to. That's why I'm saying I'm not sure yet. I've watched every TCU game though and most of Oregon's games and that's how I see them matching up against each other. I feel like Tequilla.
Not you Road, but a lot of the SEC bashers
Alabama had a tougher road to get here. They probably have an easier game today.
I agree Oregon looks good but so does Ohio State and everyone says they didn't play anybody
Did Oregon? I guess we'll see
Alabama? not so sure. I could see the physicality and athleticism really shut down the duck offense. Or I could see Bama struggle with the ducks speed and tempo. Either way yadda yadda yadda.
it's what separates us from the animals.
it's what separates us from the resident dip shits at fag man. For Christ's sake, it's what separates us from Kim and Fatters.
Nothing I've seen thus far tells me that TCU is a huge problem for Oregon.
Bamers is a different story, but Oregon has answered the "too physical" test to some extent. Michigan State, and even a flawed Furd team, are physical, and Oregon has an inside running game with a very big, strong and pretty fast kid running the ball.
I don't know what would happen against Bama. I know this ... that Bama doesn't play a lot of teams like Oregon. There's always been that factor.
Much lesser Oregon teams have played powerhouse SEC teams, and while recently those have resulted in losses, you have to look at the nature of the losses. They almost came back against an Auburn team that had a once-in-twenty-years QB, and the LSU loss - that LSU team was fucking ferocious, and despite 4 turnovers, 2 of which were KILLER fumbles by then freshman DT, it wasn't a real ass kicking. LSU had the edge in total rushing, which beside turnovers was the worst relative stat for Oregon, and it was 80 yards.
Oregon Bama
1st Downs 18 18
3rd down efficiency
9-19 6-15
4th down efficiency
1-2 0-0
Total Yards 335 273
Passing 240 98
Comp-Att
31-54 10-22
Yards per pass
4.4 4.5
Rushing 95 175
Rushing Attempts
28 48
Yards per rush
3.4 3.6
Penalties 12-95 5-47
Turnovers 4 1
Fumbles lost
3 1
Interceptions thrown
1 0
Possession 26:56 33:04
All I'm saying is that, over the years, I've seen Pac 10 teams go down there and, fully expecting them to get their asses kicked (which I expected in the LSU game), show up and play. I remember a pretty average OSU team going down to Baton Rouge and taking a good LSU team down to the wire.
I think this Oregon team is closer to this Bama team than THAT Oregon team was to THAT LSU team. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't get their asses kicked, but it's far from an automatic thing in my mind.
The biggest difference I see in this Oregon team from recent memory is Royce Freeman - kid is the fucking show.
Call me a conference homer, but I'm on the side of the argument that people everywhere else don't realize how much parity there is in this conference and that Pac teams can and do play with anybody.
Bama would be a challenge and an upset ... no doubt. But it's not David and Goliath by any stretch.
I don't think this is our uncles' Oregon team. If they can get even one of those linemen back, it could be interesting.
Would love to see a Pac team, any Pac team, beat an SEC team for the marbles.
Oregon kills TCU. FSU is a toss up and Bama a 7 point favorite
TCU's defense is what the program has been built on - particularly against the run. The program has a long history of shutting down great running attacks whether it be Adrian Peterson at Oklahoma, containing CJ Spiller in Clemson, or slowing down a very physical running attack in Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.
The weakness of the TCU defense is that there is an ability to beat them over the top in the passing game. Oklahoma stayed close in the game with those kind of plays (otherwise TCU beat them about as bad as Baylor did) and Baylor's offense started turning into Petty throwing a lot of jump balls that they came down with enough of.
It's one of the reasons I really want to see TCU face Oregon is because of their ability to stop the run. Their front four is primarily asked to take up blockers to allow the LBs to penetrate and make tackles while their changing looks in the secondary always results in at least 1-2 of them flashing into the backfield to stop the run. The confusion that they create defensively often messes with offenses. Oregon's strength isn't necessarily in dropping back in the passing game and it's no secret that the route tree that Oregon runs isn't particularly diverse.
I think it would be a very good game, but I think TCU wins the game in the 38-28 or 38-31 range.
Defensively it's a toss up, though there is no Dion Jordan or Michael Clay on this squad (can't remember if either of them played on the title team), there are more difference makers on this D overall than on that Oregon team. The corners on this team are better for sure, and I'll take Jargan over any safety Oregon's had a long time.
I guess we'll see. Just as we say with Florida State, there are two Oregon teams. One that shows up focused and ready to play, and one that doesn't. The one that shows up ready to play can, I think, go toe to toe with Bama even if they're playing their game. Could be wrong but I think it's there.
bammer
fsu
whoregon
the ohio state
Tcu
Gaylor
Doogs (some I know) are getting so antsy about it. Big fucking deal. We are in the best position we've been in, perhaps ever. Championship coach who will be here for 15 years. When Chip's players are gone, Helfrich will regress quite a bit.
One of the great myths about Kelly. He had a rep as a bit lazy in recruiting and had a very hard time puckering up for 18 year olds who think their shit smells good. The guy is a brilliant program builder and great game day coach. He's a great CEO. But not all of them are great recruiters, and I don't know that he was. Only the insiders really know, but for all we know, Helfrich was the one getting it done. He's certainly doing ok right now.
Anyway, we all know who found and landed Royce Freeman, and it wasn't chip. That kid is going to rape the Pac 12 for two more seasons before he's done.