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Hahahahaha. I like to compare a underachieving/always injured outfielder to a future multi all star one. It is what I like to do.
Hahahahaha. I like to compare a underachieving/always injured outfielder to a future multi all star one. It is what I like to do.
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Ryan Divish Ryan Divish @RyanDivish 21h
@Chris_Fetters -- seriously that is an absurd premise.
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Apparently the only person that loves Saunders more than F3 is Churchill.
Comparing this trade to possibly the worst trade ever in the history of the Mariners organization is beyond fucking stupid. Stick to your faggy sport their hot air balloon overalls.
Happ might not be great - but he tends to get hurt by the long ball. That should be mitigated a bit at Safeco - see Young, Chris. Additionally, he has experience pitching some in relief and can fill a role as the long man in the pen such that he's on standby IF there's a problem in the rotation.
A back of the rotation SP is more important than a 4th OF who can't hit.
Roster cost efficiency aside, I think this helps the team. If they don't make another move, it won't be because of Happ's contract.
Saunders is arbitration eligible after a year making $2.3M. He's due for a raise that will put him in the $4M+ range would be my guess.
So the difference in money is only $2-3M.
Many would disagree that Saunders can't hit ... probably more fair to talk about the fact that he never stays healthy. In an ideal world, a good team has a player like Saunders in the 4th OF slot to cover any issues. But the bridges clearly appeared to be burned from both sides.
Given the youth in the rotation and the lack of arms in the minors, it is imperative that the Mariners find another arm for the rotation that they can count on to make 20-30 starts if needed. Added bonus here is that Happ has pitched a bit in the pen before and at this point of his career probably understands his spot on the roster.
Disagree.
Also he's been an average hitter since 2012, so "he can't hit" is also a fucktarded statement.
Terrible trade, but the comparison is fucktarded
No question that Saunders was a useful player. I would have liked to have kept him as a 4th OF. I don't think that he was going to have the massive breakout (at least not in Seattle) that everybody thinks that is in his corner thinks he's capable of. And if he does have that breakout in Toronto, to me it's not as easy as saying "see, told you so" if that happens. Professionally, it was probably good for him to leave Seattle and get a fresh start - so good for him on that.
The areas that I get really frustrated with Churchill on things is when it comes to putting a plan together and then being prepared to do A if you know you can pull off B. For example, take a player like Justin Upton. If I knew that I could make a deal with him and get him to sign a contract extension before free agency, I would be prepared to give up more to get that deal done than I would if I was taking the player on for a year and then was going to lose the player.
Or, what is probably more appropriate in the case of Happ, this is a deal that will need to be considered in the context of what will probably be another deal that takes place to add one more hitter that will come at the expense of either Walker or Paxton. It's very possible that moving Saunders in that deal wasn't realistic, but this was a move that was required in the context of the bigger picture.
It's a bad trade.
And yes Saunders is a bit injury prone. But Happ's never thrown over 166 innings in his career. He's not exactly a workhorse either.
Bad trade. Not an Adam Jones level disaster. But it's a bad trade. Especially once you consider the M's have no outfielders and plenty of pitchers, and that hitting is much harder to bring to Seattle than pitching is. Bad trade on every level.
I think you have to assume that the Mariners are planning on getting another OFer.
There's also the thought of what to do with DJ Peterson when he's ready ... LoMo can play some of the OF.
And while Saunders is clearly better than Jones, Jones isn't terrible as a 4th OF given that he's the biggest speed threat on a roster that right now is moving a bit away from speed.