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Where did all the Mora and Jonathan Smith Bashers Go?

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    AZDuck said:

    Muttzen said:

    Regarding sling blade, Larry Coker had three very good years at Miami , including a NC, before Miami fell into the crapper. It also helps to have the best Qb in college football as David shaw has found out. Stanford is still decent post luck, but nowhere near what they were. Oregon will still be at least decent, too much talent. well just have to let it play out.

    This is 2014 Doog.

    If Hellfrick gets Oregon into the playoff, he will have gone 22-3 over his first two years in the Pac-12 with roughly #20-#25 talent. He's still overachieving if he wins the league. If he doesn't win the Pac-12 with Mariota under center, he should be sliced into bite-sized pieces with an orange chainsaw at the Reser 50 yard line.

    Coker had consistently top 5 talent at Miami, and some of the most talented teams ever to play college football. But do you know what really stands out to me about Coker's record at Miami? Here's a clue:

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    Maybe Hellfucker sucks but the offense looks as good as I've ever seen it. The defense... well, I've commented on that a few times. If he wins the league he's our guy for the foreseeable future so I will get in line.

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    Quooks hate facts:

    http://cfbmatrix.com/pac-12-north-projections-2014/
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    So wait, I say Oregon is "top 20-25" talent, and Bartoo says "top 15" and I hate facts?

    Bartoo also sez: "The Beavers and Cougars have great coaching"
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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    I'll eat crow on Mora, though if he gets plungered again by Oregon in the championship game that will look really bad. Mora did a great job recruiting a ton of talent on that team and I think he has gotten better as the season went on. Earlier this year they played down to the level of their competition way too much. Now they are plungering teams.
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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878
    I still don't like Mora and still think he will fail. He did pull a few wins out of his ass this year to make him look better. I give him those. I could be wrong, but biased on his resume, I don't think he is a good head coach.
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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    alumni94 said:

    I still don't like Mora and still think he will fail. He did pull a few wins out of his ass this year to make him look better. I give him those. I could be wrong, but biased on his resume, I don't think he is a good head coach.

    I see UCLA staying in at least the top 10-15 nationally for as long as Moras here. The OL and front seven is emerging as a real strength of the team and the QB coming in next year has way more hype than Hundley ever had. UCLA historically has been a top 20ish program that recruited well but played like a bunch of pussies. Under the Mora they recruit even better and they are one of the TUFFest teams in the p12. Though I admit - to break through to consistent top 10 level they need to get the sloppiness and NFL conservatism out a little bit.

    Next two years I think are critical for UW/UO rivalry and North supremacy. Stanford is regressing (and Grantland says Hogan is early NFL bound), Peterson hits that year 3 springboard, and Helfrich tries to prove he's not Larry Coker in the post-Mariota world.

    Either way, you miserable fucks will say everything sucks except Alabama and Dantonio, which won't be that interesting.



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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    "After UCLA consecutive games and got boat raced by Oregon, even his staunchest HHB supporters abandoned him."

    Disagree.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,438 Standard Supporter
    If you believe in stars fat TBS writers come up with, Oregon probably has top 12 talent at worst.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Doogles said:

    Yeah I'm not saying mora is shitty. He just hasn't proven to be elite, and I've seen him shit the bed on GameDay enough to know that won't change.

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    Sounds like you're going to need to see a championship.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I said Mora Jr. was a solid, but not spectacular coach. I've argued with HHB's for years over the godlike praise they heap upon him. Beating Sark in the Rose Bowl hasn't changed anything. They were preseason top ten anyway.

    I wasn't as hard on (huhuh) Smith as some, but like everybody else said: Start doing it against the top 25 teams. That goes for Miley, CP, Quietkowski and the entire program. At least have a prayer for the God damn North on 11/15. I'm not asking the world here. That said, I don't think play calls cost them a bunch of gaymes. The only one I sort of wonder about is AZ St.

    Actually, Mora isn't a JR. He has a different middle name than his dad. I think Jim L Mora is what you were looking for here.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    I'm right here. I just don't like to bash people after they do good.

    I wait to kick them when they're down.

    It's easier for everyone that way.

    Fuck you and all who revel in the pain and displeasure of others.

    GTHUALTDBRLATI!
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