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Where did all the Mora and Jonathan Smith Bashers Go?

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,588 Swaye's Wigwam
    AZDuck is kind of going Canard style being so sensitive. All anyone was saying is LIPO. It would be somewhat difficult to completely fuck it up with Mariota at QB. And stop with the bullshit about Helfrich finding Mariota. Sark and UW wanted him pretty badly too.

    And you don't have 20-25 talent. It's top 10 with a great system in place. There is a reason you have had a preseason top 5 team the past two seasons.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,176 Founders Club
    Oregon didn't play asu and USC and looked more talented than ucla
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Mariota wanted to be husky, mommy said no way son........you are going to Eugene...
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    jecornel said:

    Mariota wanted to be husky, mommy said no way son........you are going to Eugene...

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,588 Swaye's Wigwam
    http://seattletimes.com/html/huskyfootball/2021994096_uwfootball09xml.html

    "Mom, I'm going to be a Husky." That's a direct quote from the story.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468

    AZDuck is kind of going Canard style being so sensitive. All anyone was saying is LIPO. It would be somewhat difficult to completely fuck it up with Mariota at QB. And stop with the bullshit about Helfrich finding Mariota. Sark and UW wanted him pretty badly too.

    And you don't have 20-25 talent. It's top 10 with a great system in place. There is a reason you have had a preseason top 5 team the past two seasons.

    Let's get something clear, Road Dogger.

    I didn't bring up the doog wishful thinking on this thread. And Sark's entire coaching style at Oregon consisted of trying to do what we did and going after recruits that Oregon offered (see, e.g. Tyree and Tyrell Robinson, Tyner, and every other one of our recroots that were hyped as Washington leans on Doogman because Sark told Kim that to generate some "sizzle").
    “First and foremost, I have family in Seattle,” Mariota said in a phone interview Tuesday afternoon. “I took an unofficial (visit to the UW campus). I was able to meet all the coaches and meet Coach Sark. That was a really cool experience, honestly. I liked Coach Sark. He was very nice; he was very nice to my family.”

    Mariota attended an Oregon camp in summer 2010. (Another relatively unknown quarterback, Johnny Manziel — the future Heisman Trophy winner who was committed to the Ducks at the time — was at the same camp.) After that, Mariota went to the Washington camp in Seattle, where he was formally recruited by then-UW offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier.

    “He was a fantastic player in camp,” Sarkisian said. “He hadn’t started on his high school football team quite yet, so there was some hesitation on our part, quite honestly, in evaluating him.”

    Indeed, Mariota didn’t start at Honolulu’s St. Louis High School until his senior season. Oregon offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich, now in his first season as the successor to Chip Kelly as the UO head coach, was one of the first recruiters to discover Mariota before the quarterback’s senior season.
    http://seattletimes.com/html/huskyfootball/2021994096_uwfootball09xml.html

    If you can't see that Manziel committing to UO combined with Mariota taking an unofficial to UW after camping at Oregon gave him cause to consider, all the while Sark was probably proposing to him or some shit, I can't help you.

    To the extent that Oregon has top 10 talent, the TBS rankings don't bear that out. I do think that our staff is very good at identifying talent and coaching them up, but that doesn't advance your narrative, so whatever, right? UO outperformed its TBS rankings under Bellotti, under Chipper and still under Hellfinch. That data point doesn't help either, now does it?



  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    I would argue that NFL alumni is a better overall gauge of the kind of talent a program has had. Again, well behind the Miamis and USCs of the world. Also, a lagging indicator.

    Preseason rankings are biased and bullshit. You only know how good your team is after they've seen the field.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Mommy knows best!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I'm right here. I just don't like to bash people after they do good.

    I wait to kick them when they're down.

    It's easier for everyone that way.

    Fuck you and all who revel in the pain and displeasure of others.