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A Q for the bored re: Mexico

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    QuornDawgQuornDawg Member Posts: 1,162
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    But how are they a bad culture?

    Why do you say they are a bad culture? Most americans view of mexicans come from 2 things. Drugs, and the constant rhetoric surrounding illegals in the USA.

    The first is truly hilarious b/c of exactly what I posted above. Pharmaceutical drugs are far more damaging on American society today than what mexican cartels traffic. The difference is that they tend to kill a lot of people in mexico which again makes our news. If we actually posted how many deaths associated with opiate OD's every year as often as we see drug cartel snippets maybe we'd see change.

    The second is that illegals are ruining our country. There are plenty of people with their hands out, but there is quite a lot of data to support illegals are nowhere near the reasoning for various budgetary issues. However, many Americans get news from Fox which completely stunts any real world knowledge or common sense.

    I have been down to mexico many times, and been around quite a few wonderful people and communities. Surely they are not as developed as the US, but many of the smaller towns(away from tourists areas) are full of great people. Many have simple lives which aren't a country of consumption and the constant rat race.

    I would argue that the US has helped keep them in a certain corner based on our "war on drugs". We have made cartels as powerful as they are, not the mexican communities. Had we legalized weed years ago, and even lessened the penalties for other hard drugs the market would be vastly diminished, and so would their power. Instead we have driven so much money into their pockets it has allowed the various cartels to run the country.

    ¿Por qué dices que son una mala cultura? La mayoría de los estadounidenses ven de los mexicanos provienen de 2 cosas. Las drogas, y la retórica constante que rodea los ilegales en los EE.UU..

    La primera es realmente hilarante b / c de exactamente lo que he publicado anteriormente. Los productos farmacéuticos son mucho más perjudicial en la sociedad estadounidense hoy en día que lo que el tráfico de los cárteles mexicanos. La diferencia es que tienden a matar a un montón de gente en México que a su vez hace que nuestras noticias. Si realmente hemos publicado cuántas muertes relacionadas con opiáceos de OD todos los años con la frecuencia que vemos fragmentos de carteles de las drogas tal vez verían cambio.

    La segunda es que los ilegales están arruinando nuestro país. Hay un montón de gente con sus manos extendidas, pero hay un buen montón de datos para apoyar los ilegales son ni de lejos el razonamiento para diversas cuestiones presupuestarias. Sin embargo, muchos estadounidenses reciben noticias de Fox lo que frena por completo cualquier conocimiento del mundo real o el sentido común.

    He ido a México muchas veces, y ha sido en torno a un buen número de gente maravillosa y comunidades. Seguro que ellos no son tan desarrollados como los EE.UU., pero muchas de las ciudades más pequeñas (lejos de las zonas turísticas) están llenos de grandes personas. Muchos tienen vidas sencillas que no son un país de consumo y de la carrera de ratas constante.

    Yo diría que los EE.UU. han ayudado a mantener en una esquina determinada sobre la base de nuestra "guerra contra las drogas". Hemos hecho los carteles tan poderosos como son, no las comunidades mexicanas. Si hubiéramos legalizado maleza hace años, e incluso disminuido las penas por otras drogas duras el mercado se vería disminuido considerablemente, por lo que sería su poder. En lugar de ello hemos impulsado tanto dinero en sus bolsillos que ha permitido a los diferentes cárteles para gobernar el país.
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    PurpleReignPurpleReign Member Posts: 5,457
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    Mexico you say?

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    uw2010uw2010 Member Posts: 940
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    It's getting to be like revenge of the nerds around here

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    HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,528
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    uw2010 said:

    It's getting to be like revenge of the nerds around here

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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    But how are they a bad culture?

    Why do you say they are a bad culture? Most americans view of mexicans come from 2 things. Drugs, and the constant rhetoric surrounding illegals in the USA.

    The first is truly hilarious b/c of exactly what I posted above. Pharmaceutical drugs are far more damaging on American society today than what mexican cartels traffic. The difference is that they tend to kill a lot of people in mexico which again makes our news. If we actually posted how many deaths associated with opiate OD's every year as often as we see drug cartel snippets maybe we'd see change.

    The second is that illegals are ruining our country. There are plenty of people with their hands out, but there is quite a lot of data to support illegals are nowhere near the reasoning for various budgetary issues. However, many Americans get news from Fox which completely stunts any real world knowledge or common sense.

    I have been down to mexico many times, and been around quite a few wonderful people and communities. Surely they are not as developed as the US, but many of the smaller towns(away from tourists areas) are full of great people. Many have simple lives which aren't a country of consumption and the constant rat race.

    I would argue that the US has helped keep them in a certain corner based on our "war on drugs". We have made cartels as powerful as they are, not the mexican communities. Had we legalized weed years ago, and even lessened the penalties for other hard drugs the market would be vastly diminished, and so would their power. Instead we have driven so much money into their pockets it has allowed the various cartels to run the country.

    ¿Por qué dices que son una mala cultura? La mayoría de los estadounidenses ven de los mexicanos provienen de 2 cosas. Las drogas, y la retórica constante que rodea los ilegales en los EE.UU..

    La primera es realmente hilarante b / c de exactamente lo que he publicado anteriormente. Los productos farmacéuticos son mucho más perjudicial en la sociedad estadounidense hoy en día que lo que el tráfico de los cárteles mexicanos. La diferencia es que tienden a matar a un montón de gente en México que a su vez hace que nuestras noticias. Si realmente hemos publicado cuántas muertes relacionadas con opiáceos de OD todos los años con la frecuencia que vemos fragmentos de carteles de las drogas tal vez verían cambio.

    La segunda es que los ilegales están arruinando nuestro país. Hay un montón de gente con sus manos extendidas, pero hay un buen montón de datos para apoyar los ilegales son ni de lejos el razonamiento para diversas cuestiones presupuestarias. Sin embargo, muchos estadounidenses reciben noticias de Fox lo que frena por completo cualquier conocimiento del mundo real o el sentido común.

    He ido a México muchas veces, y ha sido en torno a un buen número de gente maravillosa y comunidades. Seguro que ellos no son tan desarrollados como los EE.UU., pero muchas de las ciudades más pequeñas (lejos de las zonas turísticas) están llenos de grandes personas. Muchos tienen vidas sencillas que no son un país de consumo y de la carrera de ratas constante.

    Yo diría que los EE.UU. han ayudado a mantener en una esquina determinada sobre la base de nuestra "guerra contra las drogas". Hemos hecho los carteles tan poderosos como son, no las comunidades mexicanas. Si hubiéramos legalizado maleza hace años, e incluso disminuido las penas por otras drogas duras el mercado se vería disminuido considerablemente, por lo que sería su poder. En lugar de ello hemos impulsado tanto dinero en sus bolsillos que ha permitido a los diferentes cárteles para gobernar el país.
    no estoy de acuerdo
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Why can't they get their shit together? Rich in natural resources, on two major oceans, decent universities, boarders the USA...

    What the hell? Why are they so fucked up?

    They still consider burros as cars.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
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    But how are they a bad culture?

    Why do you say they are a bad culture? Most americans view of mexicans come from 2 things. Drugs, and the constant rhetoric surrounding illegals in the USA.

    The first is truly hilarious b/c of exactly what I posted above. Pharmaceutical drugs are far more damaging on American society today than what mexican cartels traffic. The difference is that they tend to kill a lot of people in mexico which again makes our news. If we actually posted how many deaths associated with opiate OD's every year as often as we see drug cartel snippets maybe we'd see change.

    The second is that illegals are ruining our country. There are plenty of people with their hands out, but there is quite a lot of data to support illegals are nowhere near the reasoning for various budgetary issues. However, many Americans get news from Fox which completely stunts any real world knowledge or common sense.

    I have been down to mexico many times, and been around quite a few wonderful people and communities. Surely they are not as developed as the US, but many of the smaller towns(away from tourists areas) are full of great people. Many have simple lives which aren't a country of consumption and the constant rat race.

    I would argue that the US has helped keep them in a certain corner based on our "war on drugs". We have made cartels as powerful as they are, not the mexican communities. Had we legalized weed years ago, and even lessened the penalties for other hard drugs the market would be vastly diminished, and so would their power. Instead we have driven so much money into their pockets it has allowed the various cartels to run the country.

    Some good points.

    Very ethnocentric for people in the US to sit in judgement of other cultures. That's why everyone loves us so much.
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