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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    If you get to TD 7 and don't delete your post you may be a doog

    If you read past "I just re-watched the game again", you might be Section14a Fucking Stupid.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Very rarely do I agree with Aubbie, but for the most part I do today. TD#1, we had Adams in our grasp and somehow he escaped and made a huge play on 3rd down. It was almost a 3 and out. The the TD was an incredible throw. On TD#3, Budda dropped a pick/collided with the corner the play before he got burned on 4th down. TD #6, The Peters penalty led to another TD, which was an amazing throw and catch on Sidney Jones who played good coverage. The final TD had a fluky play when Dixon deflected that pass.

    Terrible defense, the coaching was suspect, and the secondary was terrible. They should have had 14-21 points less though. Nothing was good, but Eastern was getting lucky on some of those TD's and very few QB's make some of those throws. Adams deserves a lot of credit. We should get better, but the 3 man rush against a QB like Adams is terrible coaching and so is how we use Kikaha. That worries me.

    Doog
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    Looking at the Pac12 schedule...

    This team loses to a better Stanford team @ home...

    Goes to Cal and gets a shit-ass win before getting ass-raped @ oregon in eugene with a shit-ass secondary vs the #1 QB in the conference...

    After that, home game vs ASU for another ass-pounding secondary beatdown. 50/50 game there only because of ASU wanting to piss that game away.

    They get Colorado as a BYE but then UCLA comes to town...Another beatdown on D then they go AT Arizona to have fun with Rich-Rod.

    The season ends with Oregon State @ home then a gay trip to Wazzu for a coin-flip after a defeated season...

    After all that Peterman is lucky as fuck to get to 5-4.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,242
    The kids are young and green ... a number of times they had good position today and didn't do something as simple as turn and look at the ball. They look like they are thinking as much as playing right now and that's partly to be expected ...

    Eastern is good at what they do and their QB for the most part played a pretty good game ... sometimes you have to give a little credit.

    That being said, there's going to be plenty of examples on film of opportunities for the DBs to make plays and get off the field. We knew that they were going to take their lumps and need to grow up during the course of the season ... they are and they will.

    Most important thing that happened today defensively was Peters taking a selfish penalty and Petersen benching his ass as a result. There's a whole lot of Norman Dale in Petersen right now ... I don't have a problem with that at all.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    LaZoris said:

    Looking at the Pac12 schedule...

    This team loses to a better Stanford team @ home...

    Goes to Cal and gets a shit-ass win before getting ass-raped @ oregon in eugene with a shit-ass secondary vs the #1 QB in the conference...

    After that, home game vs ASU for another ass-pounding secondary beatdown. 50/50 game there only because of ASU wanting to piss that game away.

    They get Colorado as a BYE but then UCLA comes to town...Another beatdown on D then they go AT Arizona to have fun with Rich-Rod.

    The season ends with Oregon State @ home then a gay trip to Wazzu for a coin-flip after a defeated season...

    After all that Peterman is lucky as fuck to get to 5-4.

    Fortunately, Stanford isn't a better team this year.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,512 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    The kids are young and green ... a number of times they had good position today and didn't do something as simple as turn and look at the ball. They look like they are thinking as much as playing right now and that's partly to be expected ...

    Eastern is good at what they do and their QB for the most part played a pretty good game ... sometimes you have to give a little credit.

    That being said, there's going to be plenty of examples on film of opportunities for the DBs to make plays and get off the field. We knew that they were going to take their lumps and need to grow up during the course of the season ... they are and they will.

    Most important thing that happened today defensively was Peters taking a selfish penalty and Petersen benching his ass as a result. There's a whole lot of Norman Dale in Petersen right now ... I don't have a problem with that at all.

    This is an understatement. He is a top 10 QB. I don't know his NFL prospects because he is small, but he is a great college QB. I can't remember the last time I saw a QB drop that many pinpoint passes on us. It was terrible defense, but a lot of people here aren't recognizing how good he is (and Kupp) because he plays for Eastern.

    I'm not sure how I feel about the Peters situation. It was a soft call, and he was pissed off about how we were playing. He broke up a pass a few plays prior and got really, really fired up and tried to get the defense going. I love Peters' fire, but I also understand Petersen needing to send a message that he won't tolerate throwing tantrums and unnecessary penalties.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,242
    The thing with Peters is that it's not trying to limit his fire and drive ... what it is trying to do is send a message to him and his teammates that doing FS things on the field that draw penalties that extend drives fucking kills you in football games.

    One of the biggest themes that is in play after 2 games is that the offense has exactly ZERO turnovers at this point. You could argue that the difference in the game today were the 2 turnovers that we created.

    But then think about all the opportunities that we gave Eastern today:

    Peters penalty to extend a drive - led to a TD

    How many dropped INTs that led to TDs?

    4th down pass that we got a hand on after a deflection that we deflected right back to the WR for a conversion - led to another TD

    One of the biggest things that I'm seeing out of Petersen as he tears this team apart to build them back up is how important the little details of the game are. Having opportunities to get turnovers gets your team off the field and takes away opportunities to give up points ... often it puts you in a great position to score for yourself. However, you let those plays go through your fingertips and they often lead to points for the opposition.

    Look at the Stanford/SC game today. Stanford makes a living out of doing the small details better than their opponents. Today they shot themselves in the foot and lost a game that they probably win 81% of the time (or more) given the stat line.

    It's one thing if the other team beats you ... but the reason that you're 94-12 as a head coach is because to beat you, you force the other team to actually have to beat you by outplaying you. The biggest criticism so many of us had on Sark was that his teams continually found ways to beat themselves by shooting themselves in the foot, taking stupid penalties, etc. What Peters did today would have barely registered on the radar of Sark from the standpoint of sending a message.

    And yes, Eastern's QB played a great game today. He's clearly got a lot of skills and he's got more talent around him than many would care to admit. However, I also saw a guy who when faced with pressure threw a number of balls that a more seasoned secondary would have capitalized on forcing more turnovers off of.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    I think you guys have a shot to beat Stanford, Cal could go either way (yeah, weird I know and phrasing), lose to Oregon, lose to ASU, beat Colorado, beat UCLA, Arizona is another toss-up, beat the Beevs and Cuogs.

    So... add that to your gimmes against Illinois and GA State-

    9-2-2

    Other than the ugly product Peterman is putting on the field in the preseason, he is meeting expectations. So chill.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,840
    Tequilla said:

    The thing with Peters is that it's not trying to limit his fire and drive ... what it is trying to do is send a message to him and his teammates that doing FS things on the field that draw penalties that extend drives fucking kills you in football games.

    One of the biggest themes that is in play after 2 games is that the offense has exactly ZERO turnovers at this point. You could argue that the difference in the game today were the 2 turnovers that we created.

    But then think about all the opportunities that we gave Eastern today:

    Peters penalty to extend a drive - led to a TD

    How many dropped INTs that led to TDs?

    4th down pass that we got a hand on after a deflection that we deflected right back to the WR for a conversion - led to another TD

    One of the biggest things that I'm seeing out of Petersen as he tears this team apart to build them back up is how important the little details of the game are. Having opportunities to get turnovers gets your team off the field and takes away opportunities to give up points ... often it puts you in a great position to score for yourself. However, you let those plays go through your fingertips and they often lead to points for the opposition.

    Look at the Stanford/SC game today. Stanford makes a living out of doing the small details better than their opponents. Today they shot themselves in the foot and lost a game that they probably win 81% of the time (or more) given the stat line.

    It's one thing if the other team beats you ... but the reason that you're 94-12 as a head coach is because to beat you, you force the other team to actually have to beat you by outplaying you. The biggest criticism so many of us had on Sark was that his teams continually found ways to beat themselves by shooting themselves in the foot, taking stupid penalties, etc. What Peters did today would have barely registered on the radar of Sark from the standpoint of sending a message.

    And yes, Eastern's QB played a great game today. He's clearly got a lot of skills and he's got more talent around him than many would care to admit. However, I also saw a guy who when faced with pressure threw a number of balls that a more seasoned secondary would have capitalized on forcing more turnovers off of.

    Even for you ... this is a lot of words to say ...

    A Div 1AA school hung 52 on UW at home and it is bullshit