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UWs OL wont improve, the recruiting and coaching has never been there for improvement.LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
The mostly likely place for continued improvement for UW would be defense. We actually have a pretty great front 7 on defense, our set of LBs is the best UW has had in awhile, Shelton (DT/NG) is still a beast and only needs a little bit of help from the rest of the DL. The secondary is somewhat unknown but definitely has the talent necessary.
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I don't see how the OL won't improve, although they will still be a below average unit compared to the other teams in the conference.Houhusky said:
UWs OL wont improve, the recruiting and coaching has never been there for improvement.LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
The mostly likely place for continued improvement for UW would be defense. We actually have a pretty great front 7 on defense, our set of LBs is the best UW has had in awhile, Shelton (DT/NG) is still a beast and only needs a little bit of help from the rest of the DL. The secondary is somewhat unknown but definitely has the talent necessary.
I disagree with you about the DL. They are far from great. We have no DT's that are even average Pac 12 players after Shelton. If Shelton goes down, the DL becomes one of the worst in the conference. It's too bad the coaches basically wasted two years of Tokalahi's eligibility (2009, 2011). While he was not a star, we sure could use him this year. The one guy who I am curious about is Josh Banks. He made some plays against Stanford, but got hurt shortly after and didn't do much the rest of the season. He might be our best chance at having another solid DT.
Andrew Hudson is a solid player, but he is too small to play DE in the 3-4. However because we don't have many quality guys, he has to out of necessity. Shirley is a good pass rusher, but is basically useless in stopping the run. Once again, because we don't have enough quality guys, he is forced to play in situations where he ideally should not be playing.
The rest of the guys on the DL either suck (Potoae, Tupou, Finau) or are young with little or no experience (Pio V, Littleton, Cree, Turpin, the 3 incoming FR). Getting Jamora back would be great, but who knows what to expect after two ACL tears. Even if he comes back, will he be any good?
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Agree about the D line. Outside of Shelton they are not very good. The dogboy hype about Shirley I don't get. He is a subpar pass rusher and poor at run blocking. He's too small for a line position and the strength is questionable.
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Lack of a consistent pass rush and lack of pass protection sum up the Huskies lines. This program won't turn the corner until it has a coach running things who is serious about recruiting and developing positions along both lines.
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Exactly. No matter how the schemes and style of play change, football is still the same game. Win the line of scrimmage, win the turnover battle, and you will win almost every game. Until we are consistently the tougher team up front, we will be stuck in mediocrity.Southerndawg said:Lack of a consistent pass rush and lack of pass protection sum up the Huskies lines. This program won't turn the corner until it has a coach running things who is serious about recruiting and developing positions along both lines.
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Boise St is the most prepared team in college football coming out of fall camp. Sark and UW are one of the lease prepared college football teams coming out of fall camp. take the points, bet the farm and retire early. Petersen is arguably the BEST coach in America next to Saban. Sark is arguably the worst coach in America...Who do you think is going to win? Sark, but ONLY because of the crowd. BSU will win in Las Vegas though
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Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
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I have seen Boise State ranked from 15 to 20. Dawgs are ranked around 45.
Is the Boise State game a lock? I'm hearing 4-0 before the plunger comes out of the closet.
Is Boise State good? We know they have a better coach but uw will have a new stadium. I guess the offense is solid, oline issues though and young corners?
Does UW win rather easily say 35-17?
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The new stadium will score at minimum 14 points which together with the 7 points typically assumed for home field advantage, we should have a 21point handicap before the Huskies leave their new locker-room to storm out of the new Tunnel onto the new fieldturf. that should be more than a genius such as Peterson can overcome in a season opener on the road....... providing Sark's new duck wannabe offense can either add to the Huskies' scoreboard or keep from giving points to the mediocre-by-size Broncos.
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Boise St is the most prepared team in college football coming out of fall camp. Sark and UW are one of the lease prepared college football teams coming out of fall camp. take the points, bet the farm and retire early. Petersen is arguably the BEST coach in America next to Saban. Sark is arguably the worst coach in America...Who do you think is going to win? Sark, but ONLY because of the crowd. BSU will win in Las Vegas though
On a neutral field BSU wins. In husky stadium UW will roll.Steve_Bowman said:Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
(When seem to be at least recruiting numbers on the defensive side. We'll see if we have the coaching talent to develop them.)Steve_Bowman said:Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
(When seem to be at least recruiting numbers on the defensive side. We'll see if we have the coaching talent to develop them.)
Listen' I got laughed off dogboy for suggesting they keep 18-20 olinemen on schollie. One of their fucking experts said "no only 16 is necessary". A week fucking later, ON THEIR FUCKING SHOW, Baird said 18-20. NO QUESTION. Those guys are the biggest fucking bunch of sheep over there.Steve_Bowman said:Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
(When seem to be at least recruiting numbers on the defensive side. We'll see if we have the coaching talent to develop them.)
Whatever eklund (never touched a football), Fetters (never touched a diet soda) and Kimmy (never touched a pussy) says people follow. If they'd just give me control dawgman, people would actually show up instead of the same preachers like YALE. Who cares if you went Ivy league. Doesn't matter anymore. The self proclaimed "film expert" is as retarted as Kim is a play analyst. Sick of these band fags pretending they know something about football.
