I'm not bitter, I loved Chip but he had his faults. He lost a very winnable game. No way in hell does Dan stand pat with a sketchy FG kicker going into that 2012 season. But Chip did and it cost us another NC.
Chip wasn't infallible. But his mad-genius level coaching enabled Oregon's 2009- 14 run w/o blue blood type MONEY, TRADITION and LOCATION.
I don't think a guy of Dan's abilities could have elevated Oregon in the same way post Mike B.
While at the same time what Chip did was kind of a one time moment in history and the game evolved. Eventually the @oregonblitzkrieg ran out of gas at the gates of Moscow.
Phil was already providing plenty of financial support by the time Chip arrived. Dan just did something Chip was never able to do, and he is recruiting at a level that Chip never did. Chip never built the kind of talent on the O and D-lines that Dan has built.
It feels like you’re arguing with a wall regarding CK. Everyone here hearts him.
I don’t care if Oregon “buys” a natty. You’ve all been saying that for about 20 years anyway including when he was here. Am I supposed to not want them to win and pray another good and right SEC team wins it?
UW has more money and circumstance than Oregon State. Sounds like that’s not fair and you bought your sugar bowl last year.
College football is capitalism. There’s no right way to win it. It’s not fair USC is in the only major city out west with recruits. It’s not fair Phil Knight invented Nike at Oregon. Nothing has ever been sacred, righteous or fair in college football. That’s all religious type malarkey. It’s not magic. It’s not bestowed by god. It’s circumstance and luck and all of that changes over time.
If Oregon wins I’m getting the T-shirt, the SI cover and a hat. Then everyone just does it all over again the next year.
It feels like you're twisting what I've said at the start of of this thread which is to say I don't care if Phil "buys" Oregon a Natty. The rules are the rules. UW could spend $23 million a roster if they got their shit together, but it's easier if you have one guy willing to make it a reality with the biggest brand in sports ball.
Phil Knight being a Duck alum is like all the dinosaurs dying in one spot if the Arabian desert. It's an accident of history and no sense (for us?) complaining about it. Some tribes just get lucky.
Look I get it, you're fully invested in your belief that Dan is a mediocre coach who just happened to get a golden ticket while Chip came in and built it up from nothing. It just doesn't happen to be true. Phil has been showering Oregon with cash for pretty much anything they could possibly want since the early 2000. Stadium expansion, practice facilities private jets for recruiting, all of that was available before Chip arrived. Dan was a first year head coach who went who 10-3. I know you guys still like to dick ride Deboer, but he could have very easily lost two of those 3 games against Oregon. Really the only reason you guys still blow him is because he beat Oregon. Hell Bill and haie are still sniffing his jock trying to taken in some of the glory on the games he wins now.
Washington fans weren't talking like this last year. But I do believe the comfort zone for most Husky fans is to whine about Oregon or whoever is winning
Dawgman.com was filled with posters who piously stated their desire to lose rather than be like Oregon
That's haie's line. And if you're repeating haie's excuses you're losing. You were ass raped. You rushed for less than 50 yards while they ran it down your throats for 303. You were beat as badly in that game as we were by Ohio State in 2014. They beat the shit out of both your offensive and defensive lines.
Right but you also said something along the lines of CK would have been the only time we did it the right way. Which is untrue because you were all saying it was only because of PK at that time.
Certainly you’ve realized this is real life and what happened is what happened. Phil Knight founded Nike at Oregon. Some guy randomly built a school in Los Angeles, Henry Ford turned the upper Midwest into an industrial capital and Texas is full of oil.
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You sound bitter.
I'd be building that a guy a statue!
Sport has never been more popular. Your team just fucking sucks Bill.
I'm not bitter, I loved Chip but he had his faults. He lost a very winnable game. No way in hell does Dan stand pat with a sketchy FG kicker going into that 2012 season. But Chip did and it cost us another NC.
who are the great, poor coaches being left out?
Chip wasn't infallible. But his mad-genius level coaching enabled Oregon's 2009- 14 run w/o blue blood type MONEY, TRADITION and LOCATION.
I don't think a guy of Dan's abilities could have elevated Oregon in the same way post Mike B.
While at the same time what Chip did was kind of a one time moment in history and the game evolved. Eventually the @oregonblitzkrieg ran out of gas at the gates of Moscow.
Who is the great, poor coach who is going to win it all?
DeBoer would have qualified in 2023 but he came up short.
Phil was already providing plenty of financial support by the time Chip arrived. Dan just did something Chip was never able to do, and he is recruiting at a level that Chip never did. Chip never built the kind of talent on the O and D-lines that Dan has built.
The ass raping you received at the hands of Michigan was a little bit worse than just coming up "short."
It feels like you’re arguing with a wall regarding CK. Everyone here hearts him.
I don’t care if Oregon “buys” a natty. You’ve all been saying that for about 20 years anyway including when he was here. Am I supposed to not want them to win and pray another good and right SEC team wins it?
UW has more money and circumstance than Oregon State. Sounds like that’s not fair and you bought your sugar bowl last year.
College football is capitalism. There’s no right way to win it. It’s not fair USC is in the only major city out west with recruits. It’s not fair Phil Knight invented Nike at Oregon. Nothing has ever been sacred, righteous or fair in college football. That’s all religious type malarkey. It’s not magic. It’s not bestowed by god. It’s circumstance and luck and all of that changes over time.
If Oregon wins I’m getting the T-shirt, the SI cover and a hat. Then everyone just does it all over again the next year.
Way too liberal interpretation of "ass raping". It was 20-13 at the start of the 4th.
If you want to say "4th Quarter" ass raping I'll allow it.
It feels like you're twisting what I've said at the start of of this thread which is to say I don't care if Phil "buys" Oregon a Natty. The rules are the rules. UW could spend $23 million a roster if they got their shit together, but it's easier if you have one guy willing to make it a reality with the biggest brand in sports ball.
Phil Knight being a Duck alum is like all the dinosaurs dying in one spot if the Arabian desert. It's an accident of history and no sense (for us?) complaining about it. Some tribes just get lucky.
Look I get it, you're fully invested in your belief that Dan is a mediocre coach who just happened to get a golden ticket while Chip came in and built it up from nothing. It just doesn't happen to be true. Phil has been showering Oregon with cash for pretty much anything they could possibly want since the early 2000. Stadium expansion, practice facilities private jets for recruiting, all of that was available before Chip arrived. Dan was a first year head coach who went who 10-3. I know you guys still like to dick ride Deboer, but he could have very easily lost two of those 3 games against Oregon. Really the only reason you guys still blow him is because he beat Oregon. Hell Bill and haie are still sniffing his jock trying to taken in some of the glory on the games he wins now.
"Financial support" pre-N.I.L. pay for play era college sports is chicken shit compared to its importance now.
Disagree
The amount kids were getting would shock you
And if we're honest UW bought 1991
The only crime is not doing it more
Washington fans weren't talking like this last year. But I do believe the comfort zone for most Husky fans is to whine about Oregon or whoever is winning
Dawgman.com was filled with posters who piously stated their desire to lose rather than be like Oregon
They often get their wish
If Dan Landers wins the CFP, I'll upgrade him to GOOD coach status, and we can move on from him going 1-4 against Smith and DeBoer.
It's true that Chip stepped into immense resources but the great leap forward wasn't happening with Mike or any other random guy.
It took some chubby, unheard of mad genius from NH to shake up the game.
That's haie's line. And if you're repeating haie's excuses you're losing. You were ass raped. You rushed for less than 50 yards while they ran it down your throats for 303. You were beat as badly in that game as we were by Ohio State in 2014. They beat the shit out of both your offensive and defensive lines.
Right but you also said something along the lines of CK would have been the only time we did it the right way. Which is untrue because you were all saying it was only because of PK at that time.
Certainly you’ve realized this is real life and what happened is what happened. Phil Knight founded Nike at Oregon. Some guy randomly built a school in Los Angeles, Henry Ford turned the upper Midwest into an industrial capital and Texas is full of oil.
I want the AT&T football phone.
Well who the fuck is stopping mighty Washington for playing by the same rules Oregon is playing by now? Stop whining, it's unbecoming.