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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    Everyone draws the line somewhere, but we've shown just about everything is fair game here. As we've said before, if someone posts porn, people's personal info or outright slander, that can't happen. RoadDawg has certainly struggled to grasp certain basics, but RoadDawg was but a small part of this decision. I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here... When I told Harv that he could be an asset around here I meant it, and I do think it's a shame. I enjoyed a lot of his posts.

    I can understand some of the angst but I'm comfortable with the decision. Time will show there is no slippery slope because that's not where we're at in terms of a philosophy.



    I think we should all try answering your emails, PMs, and phone calls for a day.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    The fact that DJs Tebow article was the Outrage of The Day, proves the point of the article. Despite the fact that some were cool with the article, just a bit annoyed it was on the front page.

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here...


    No offense Derek but that sounds like something Kim would say when banning someone. I trust that you won't turn this into dawgman but like I said I like the idea of everyone policing themselves.

    DAO wasn't a problem as that account was getting attacked and people weren't putting up with it. In fact Harv wasn't a problem until Road Dawg's recent struggles and continuing of taking Harv's bait.

    If these guys would stop taking the bait and simply relax then there is no need to ban anyone.
    Good Christ. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here...



    No offense Derek but that sounds like something Kim would say when banning someone.     I trust that you won't turn this into dawgman but like I said I like the idea of everyone policing themselves.

    DAO wasn't a problem as that account was getting attacked and people weren't putting up with it. In fact Harv wasn't a problem until Road Dawg's recent struggles and continuing of taking Harv's bait.

    If these guys would stop taking the bait and simply relax then there is no need to ban anyone.
    Hate to say it but I thought the same exact thing.

    Also, and more importantly, to whichever posters are complaining to Derek, NUT UP AND SAY IT ON THE BOARDS FOR YOURSELF.

    If this place is going to turn into an alleged "silent majority" who does nothing but bitch about other posters but never have the balls to ever actually voice their opinion for all to see then let's just save everyone the trouble and blow it up now.

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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here...



    No offense Derek but that sounds like something Kim would say when banning someone.     I trust that you won't turn this into dawgman but like I said I like the idea of everyone policing themselves.

    DAO wasn't a problem as that account was getting attacked and people weren't putting up with it. In fact Harv wasn't a problem until Road Dawg's recent struggles and continuing of taking Harv's bait.

    If these guys would stop taking the bait and simply relax then there is no need to ban anyone.
    Hate to say it but I thought the same exact thing.

    Also, and more importantly, to whichever posters are complaining to Derek, NUT UP AND SAY IT ON THE BOARDS FOR YOURSELF.

    If this place is going to turn into an alleged "silent majority" who does nothing but bitch about other posters but never have the balls to ever actually voice their opinion for all to see then let's just save everyone the trouble and blow it up now.

    Agree. We had enough of the "silent majority" bullshit at Doogman.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,931 Founders Club
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here...


    No offense Derek but that sounds like something Kim would say when banning someone. I trust that you won't turn this into dawgman but like I said I like the idea of everyone policing themselves.

    DAO wasn't a problem as that account was getting attacked and people weren't putting up with it. In fact Harv wasn't a problem until Road Dawg's recent struggles and continuing of taking Harv's bait.

    If these guys would stop taking the bait and simply relax then there is no need to ban anyone.
    No offense taken.
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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    MikeDamone said:

    The fact that DJs Tebow article was the Outrage of The Day, proves the point of the article. Despite the fact that some were cool with the article, just a bit annoyed it was on the front page.

    I know you would LOVE to think that I was fuming over Derek's short opinion piece. That would really make your day. But the simple truth is that it doesn't belong on the front page. That was my problem. Content? Whatever.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    TheKobeStopper said:

    MikeDamone said:

    The fact that DJs Tebow article was the Outrage of The Day, proves the point of the article. Despite the fact that some were cool with the article, just a bit annoyed it was on the front page.

    I know you would LOVE to think that I was fuming over Derek's short opinion piece. That would really make your day. But the simple truth is that it doesn't belong on the front page. That was my problem. Content? Whatever.
    I read stuff 81 times more offensive than that all day long at my jerb

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here...



    No offense Derek but that sounds like something Kim would say when banning someone.     I trust that you won't turn this into dawgman but like I said I like the idea of everyone policing themselves.

    DAO wasn't a problem as that account was getting attacked and people weren't putting up with it. In fact Harv wasn't a problem until Road Dawg's recent struggles and continuing of taking Harv's bait.

    If these guys would stop taking the bait and simply relax then there is no need to ban anyone.
    Hate to say it but I thought the same exact thing.

    Also, and more importantly, to whichever posters are complaining to Derek, NUT UP AND SAY IT ON THE BOARDS FOR YOURSELF.

    If this place is going to turn into an alleged "silent majority" who does nothing but bitch about other posters but never have the balls to ever actually voice their opinion for all to see then let's just save everyone the trouble and blow it up now.

    When reading that comment I felt like I was on doogman. "Hearing complaints about you". Well Derek start name dropping these fucks. It's the internet, they are adults they can fend for themselves.

    So if a bunch of people start messaging you privately about a user to ban them will you do that as well?
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  • [Deleted User]
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    MikeDamone said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    Every board is better off with Harv than without it. Derek, I think banning him just opens up a can of worms.

    Also a bit hypocritical since we all complain how Kim is ban happy.

    A little Harv goes a long way. Boards are best when Harv is lurking and pops in every couple or months or things to liven things up and make his presence felt. If Derek takes Harv off his leash come September it will be interesting. If he does not, it will be less interesting.

    And while I agree with the sentiment about Harv making newbies his own personal millcreekcoog, Harv wasn't exactly running a train on RoadDawg by himself.
    RoadDawg was practically bending over inviting everyone to run a train on him. Did you see his posts the last 24 hours?

    Derek look at your original message for this board though. Your advice was for those who don't get it to lurk for a while so they aren't exposed. RoadDawg clearly doesn't get it.

    Harv is what he is. Anyone who takes his baiting seriously this forum is better off without them. I mean he basically ran that Bert Winthrop guy. Judging by his posts that was a good thing not a bad thing too.

    This also sets a bad precedent which you always complained about Kim. If you aren't toeing the company line you get banned. Harv wasn't toeing your company line so he was banned. Sets a terrible precedent going forward. Just like dawgboard did when they banned Harv's "cfetters" account but allowed other fake accounts on there.

    I've been getting feedback from several people who said they're looking for a new place to hang out but wouldn't do it with Harvey here...


    No offense Derek but that sounds like something Kim would say when banning someone. I trust that you won't turn this into dawgman but like I said I like the idea of everyone policing themselves.

    DAO wasn't a problem as that account was getting attacked and people weren't putting up with it. In fact Harv wasn't a problem until Road Dawg's recent struggles and continuing of taking Harv's bait.

    If these guys would stop taking the bait and simply relax then there is no need to ban anyone.
    Good Christ. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
    Are you required to toe the company line around here all the time? Good christ what happened to you? You used to have some edge in your posts.
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