Libtards are retarded and live in their own fantasy world
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Please find a teacher below the college level that is worth a fuck. I went to a high school that fucking rich people move to the town just so their kids can attend. Every teacher was dreck, went to easy colleges, and has their diploma framed in the classroom.FreeChavez said:
The difference is that in her career she will escalate her salary and likely be making 3 times that within 15 years. Teachers will not see any similar escalation. If the teacher market was truly a free market for salary than maybe it's a fair comparison, but it isn't b/c teachers are stuck on a pay scale regardless of their actual value.haie said:Cry me a fucking river. There are plenty of 4 year degrees that come with actual skills that aren't making a living wage. My gf is a UW business school grad and has her MBA and makes about 45k. I think teachers need to follow through on their whining and nail themselves to their crosses until they bleed out.
A Master's in Teaching is about on par with the first 1-2 weeks of a Computer Science or Engineering degree in difficulty. Simple fact.
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If you're only making $75k selling insurance, you're in the wrong market and/or not very good at what you do.FreeChavez said:
i know a lot of people who shouldn't get paid nearly what they are paid in their profession. However, i don't base that on the individual, more about the the vast majority of those in that profession. There are some teachers who are POS, but many who are not. To use the outlier as the norm is about as ignorant as saying teachers aren't smart enough to do another job.oregonblitzkrieg said:If you think shitty teachers should get paid 200K a year, open up your wallet and agree to pay $6000 in property taxes per $100,000 of your home value.
Teachers should be paid a good living wage, IE 30k is not a living wage for a 4 year degree. I know many with masters who are making 40k a year. Sorry, but I think that's ridiculous.
I also know "financial advisors" aka, insurance pushers who makes 75k. Who is really doing society good?
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I like right to work states. Teachers get fired and downsized all the time. No issues.
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Teachers aren't stuck anywhere. The great thing about a free market is they are free to chose any profession they wish. If teaching isn't paying the bills, there is no one with a gun to their head forcing them to stay. Also, this isn't a new development, teachers know what the pay scale is when they decide to go into it. Bitching a few years down the road is bullshit. The notion they are underpaid is a huge myth. Some teachers may be underpaid compared to some of their worthless colleagues, but on average, they get what they're worth.FreeChavez said:
The difference is that in her career she will escalate her salary and likely be making 3 times that within 15 years. Teachers will not see any similar escalation. If the teacher market was truly a free market for salary than maybe it's a fair comparison, but it isn't b/c teachers are stuck on a pay scale regardless of their actual value.haie said:Cry me a fucking river. There are plenty of 4 year degrees that come with actual skills that aren't making a living wage. My gf is a UW business school grad and has her MBA and makes about 45k. I think teachers need to follow through on their whining and nail themselves to their crosses until they bleed out.
It sounds like you're blaming the union teachers being "stuck" on a pay scale. I would agree with that. I would also agree that unions interfere with labor costs in unionized industries and companies. -
Here is a list of what secondary teachers in the seattle made in 2012 -2013. Like I said, they aren't underpaid.FreeChavez said:
i know a lot of people who shouldn't get paid nearly what they are paid in their profession. However, i don't base that on the individual, more about the the vast majority of those in that profession. There are some teachers who are POS, but many who are not. To use the outlier as the norm is about as ignorant as saying teachers aren't smart enough to do another job.oregonblitzkrieg said:If you think shitty teachers should get paid 200K a year, open up your wallet and agree to pay $6000 in property taxes per $100,000 of your home value.
Teachers should be paid a good living wage, IE 30k is not a living wage for a 4 year degree. I know many with masters who are making 40k a year. Sorry, but I think that's ridiculous.
I also know "financial advisors" aka, insurance pushers who makes 75k. Who is really doing society good?
http://wwwb.thenewstribune.com/databases/school_pay/index.php?names=&schools=&districts=Seattle+Public+Schools&sort=&job_title=Secondary+Teacher&page=14 -
collegeinpjs.com is the only way to go
I like to pretend online school is just like getting up early and having a work ethic. -
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Why can't they? too lazy? Dumb?haie said:@MikeDamone
They can't choose any profession they wish. Hence this butthurt, entitled thread.
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I just think we need to ban guns. Less guns = less violence.
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Some too dumb, some too lazy, all entitled: "We educate your kids, so vote to give us more money."MikeDamone said:
Why can't they? too lazy? Dumb?haie said:@MikeDamone
They can't choose any profession they wish. Hence this butthurt, entitled thread. -
Nothing is more important than educating the children.haie said:
Some too dumb, some too lazy, all entitled: "We educate your kids, so vote to give us more money."MikeDamone said:
Why can't they? too lazy? Dumb?haie said:@MikeDamone
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$75k/year to teach and get 3 months off/year?
Fuck, sign me up.
