If Bandes, Valdez, and Sagapoulo are all gone after 2024, this guy could likely start in 2025 at 0 / 1 tech:
He will end up at Oregon, Mississippi, Tennessee, USC, Texas, Texas AM or Ohio State. Those schools seem to have the deepest portal pockets. UW will pull in a couple Big Sky or MW tackles to pair with the two Parkers, Kahn, Butler and Davis. Three of those dudes can't stay healthy so they may need three or four bodies to get through a full season.
I think D. Lynch has another season.
But how about we pass around the hat here to bring Oatis?
The sport is full retard now. People really want us to stop caring. All of this bullshit about illegally paying players in the past being shady and unknowable, it's fuckin' legal now and more shady and unknowable than ever. Nobody knows shit, except that big money schools are spending big money and if you ain't one of them - buckle the fuck up. But it's all heresay, and now there are essentially no scholarship limits as well? Before scholarship limits, Alabama used to take guys just to Auburn wouldn't get them, that will continue - and not in our favor.
If fucking Oregon buys themselves a National Title I'll be so grossed out that I'm not sure what I will do with my fandom. Shit needs to change, and even if it does it won't happen fast enough to stop this bullshit.
Is this satire?
I have a friend who is an Oregon fan and he was gloating about their win while UW lost big. I noted that the majority of Oregon's starters came in via NIL, including Dillon Gabriel (3rd team) and Jabbar Muhammad (that they bought from UW). He didn't really have an answer to counter that other than "well you need a billionaire booster too". I don't think it's sour grapes to say that the NCAA shouldn't allow players to go for a bag multiple times unless they go down a level and one of the players Oregon bought was ejected for spitting in the face of an Ohio State player…he's been ejected 3 times. Is that very collegial?
What sucks is that I always liked college football because nearly all players committed to a school and spent 4 or 5 years grinding to build something. Now the rules are so screwed up that a team like Oregon is even worse than the NFL in terms of having mercenaries. Is that what CFB wants?
And if that's what CFB wants, does UW have the appetite to fully go that route? This isn't just bringing in someone like Penix, who had a prior relationship with DeBoer at Indiana, to compete at QB with Dylan Morris. This is new NIL stuff is going to multi-millionaires and billionaires to buy players with the highest bid. I don't begrudge very wealthy people but it's not about just donating money to rebuild a stadium, it's literally buying players.
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You're friend is spot on. You will need an elite level qb probably to compete with teams that will buy the best roster every year because we will never do that.
I don't fault the kids for taking the money at all and jumping from program to program, but it will flip the sport upside down to an extent.
I came into this season with no care. I have even less now, since Ive apparently become a fair weather fan. I agonized over every game during the Gilby-Ty years but can't seem to find any fucks to give now.
"I never thought I could feel this way and I've got to say that I just don't get it. Something, something...the feeling is gone and I just can't get it back."
NIL and the portal seem to have killed my love for football. I've been watching playoff baseball games I don't care about while college football is on, which is a first for me. I surfed other channels during the UW game Saturday and left to play golf while the game was still in doubt.
You need to be selective regardless. Saban said it best, "If you don't pay the right guys, you'll be shit outta luck."
Penix actually played for two seasons, which is kinda what the old standard was for a starting QB before they went pro if they were good, and hadn't already graduated. And he was so banged up that UW took a risk on him more than they imported him as some surefire free agent. Mercenary is not really close to accurate.
It's really a challenging problem to solve:
-College football makes a shit ton of money which is driven by the actual players, and the players deserve to be compensated for the value they produce
-Part of the reason college football makes a shit ton of money is because of the attachment of fans to a school (for whatever reason), and that attachment is stronger when the players play for their school for the entirety of their career
-Decisions made by 18 year olds shouldn't be written in blood for 5 years and should be changeable to a degree, especially when the inputs to those decisions (coaching staff, educational desires, playing opportunities) change
-The serviceable market for college football is larger when more schools have a chance at being good and winning something
Then you have some outlier economic influences of specific boosters valuing success to an almost irrational degree. I want to root for a school and team, not for my team to have a rich ass booster.
We can argue the merits of taking mercenaries (I want UW to take more!) but that's not an accurate description of the Penix situation at all. Dude spent a full four years at one place, needed a fresh start, and hooked back up with the coach he'd had his most success under.
@dnc is risen!
he has risen, indeed.
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Im not saying that DNC is a slime creature who killed and absorbed the life force of multiple children, kittens and puppy dogs in order take shape and return. I'm just saying that it would be foolish to dismiss that possibility.
Mother fuckers get free education while they rep for their U.
Allow additional $ for living expenses, that should be more than enough.
But no, NCAA fucking ruined college football and soon the rest of collegiate sports.
I’ve had this thought more than once during the season while watching ATM, Ole Miss, tOSU and Oregon. CFB needs a salary cap. I don’t know what the cap should be but there needs to be one and then schools can decide how to navigate it. Without it, some of these schools will simply rely on their respective Phil Knights to buy players and possibly even championships.
I’ve been saying for two years that the players need to unionize and there needs to be an agreed upon compensation package, minimum wage and/or salary cap. 10 million dollar cap, 4 million goes to a base salary to the 85 man roster of 50,000. Then you get 6 million to divide amongst your stars. The two sides could come to an agreement on transfer rules. God knows the sport and fans need that. The cream of the crop players won’t want this but players 15-85 will because most of them don’t make shit. The lawsuits could finally end and everyone could get back to making money, the field would be somewhat leveled and secret coffee cups stuffed with cash would be en vogue again.
College football hasn't been very collegiate and it's been pretty hypocritical and complicated for a long time. The value of a degree isn't what is used to be, especially outside of the kinds of major a college football player isn't gonna be allowed the time/energy to pursue. The money got way bigger in the past 25 years and made not paying the players worse and worse and worse.
I think the NCAA basically just caved and as long as the money is coming in for most no one cares and basically no one is running anything. Fleen and I were recently having dinner with one of the board members who was part of the group to rewrite college sports a few years ago and he disappointingly kind of just said well it's like pro sports now basically and the divisions have their own control or something really flimsy and thankfully someone else said it's actually way worse than pro sports. Pretty much confirmed my suspicions on what happened.
I think the bigger union and contracts and caps shit hopefully is coming but until the money forces it I'll hold my breath. I also think programs will push the margins but it's a lot harder to do that when you have a threat of getting in trouble.
I think there's little stuff they could easily fix now too like only allowing one transfer in a career if you're not transferring down a conference, mandatory compensation and bonus sharing from coaches with players, and any NIL contracts need to be public.
Most importantly the portal has and will be the biggest problems, much more than even unlimited bags for hs recruits. Bagging high schoolers you still had to scout and develop but now you can buy players who have already proven themselves at your level which is really fucking easy and prevents programs from having to rebuild at all, which was generally kind of a good part of college football.
UW can only be so judgy on it all too as UW basically this year has a bough roster of transfers though it's because they really had no other choice since everyone took there's.
Yes, UW had to go after transfers because their roster was gutted by other schools (and guys going onto the NFL). That's much different than buying guys who go into the portal for the biggest payday.
For instance come December (I think that's when the portal opens), Fisch and co won't need to hit the portal nearly as hard. They'll have to address shortcomings in Lake's and DeBoer's classes. For instance, when DeBoer was hired in late 2021 after the Lake debacle, he was only able to secure one OL (Brailsford) and Brailsford left to join DeBoer at Alabama.
So there's a big difference between selectively using NIL to fill out a roster decimated due to coaching changes and spending massive amounts of money on guys jumping around to the highest bidder.
I just think that most CFB enthusiasts want a level playing field as even the NFL (with hundreds of billions at stake every year) has a salary cap.
EXACTLY.
Nobody wanted Penix he was a 3* dude with an terrible injury history. He followed Deboer and you could say we lucked into both of them. I'm talking big picture here, we can't count on being lucky.
Accurate. UW was in a really bad situation. They really couldn't afford DeBoer to leave even though he was a shitty recruiter. It's a great example of the fucked out nature of the current situation in that UW's best potential outcome once DeBoer left and they hired Fisch was to fully raid Arizona and instead only like 30% raided them and now both programs are mediocre. Sweet.
The Arizona players know Brennan is mid now. I’d think someone like Paulido and anyone else that Carrol thinks might be an upgrade, will be more receptive to a move to UW. TMac was the lynchpin of everyone that stayed. He’s gone after the regular season. Arizona Raid 2, Electric Boogaloo.
all of the salary cap talk is great and all, but that has nothing to do with nil. that toothpaste is out and on the floor.
@WoolleyDoog never upvotes my Seinfeld gifs.
I shall confront him on the next pod.
I really, really like Seinfeld but I genuinely scroll right past any Seinfeld gif. I'm also just not a big gif guy in general if you notice I've never used one.
