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If Bandes, Valdez, and Sagapoulo are all gone after 2024, this guy could likely start in 2025 at 0 / 1 tech:

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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,381

    I think D. Lynch has another season.

    But how about we pass around the hat here to bring Oatis?

  • ukdawg
    ukdawg Member Posts: 185

    The sport is full retard now. People really want us to stop caring. All of this bullshit about illegally paying players in the past being shady and unknowable, it's fuckin' legal now and more shady and unknowable than ever. Nobody knows shit, except that big money schools are spending big money and if you ain't one of them - buckle the fuck up. But it's all heresay, and now there are essentially no scholarship limits as well? Before scholarship limits, Alabama used to take guys just to Auburn wouldn't get them, that will continue - and not in our favor.

    If fucking Oregon buys themselves a National Title I'll be so grossed out that I'm not sure what I will do with my fandom. Shit needs to change, and even if it does it won't happen fast enough to stop this bullshit.

  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,039 Founders Club

    Is this satire?

  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    1. Your best player in your lifetime was a mercenary
    2. Holden is a head case but that was his first ejection ever, I’m pretty sure. What other two Oregon games did he get ejected from? Or did you see this article and have serious reading comprehension issues #academis

    https://apnews.com/article/traeshon-holden-oregon-ohio-state-8c6fd6aa20450e2a79c3f6a2d91cae85

  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,329

    You're friend is spot on. You will need an elite level qb probably to compete with teams that will buy the best roster every year because we will never do that.

    I don't fault the kids for taking the money at all and jumping from program to program, but it will flip the sport upside down to an extent.

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    I came into this season with no care. I have even less now, since Ive apparently become a fair weather fan. I agonized over every game during the Gilby-Ty years but can't seem to find any fucks to give now.

    "I never thought I could feel this way and I've got to say that I just don't get it. Something, something...the feeling is gone and I just can't get it back."

    NIL and the portal seem to have killed my love for football. I've been watching playoff baseball games I don't care about while college football is on, which is a first for me. I surfed other channels during the UW game Saturday and left to play golf while the game was still in doubt.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    You need to be selective regardless. Saban said it best, "If you don't pay the right guys, you'll be shit outta luck."

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    Im not saying that DNC is a slime creature who killed and absorbed the life force of multiple children, kittens and puppy dogs in order take shape and return. I'm just saying that it would be foolish to dismiss that possibility.

  • HuskyHalfBrain
    HuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311
    edited October 2024

    Mother fuckers get free education while they rep for their U.

    Allow additional $ for living expenses, that should be more than enough.

    But no, NCAA fucking ruined college football and soon the rest of collegiate sports.

  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,237 Founders Club

    I’ve had this thought more than once during the season while watching ATM, Ole Miss, tOSU and Oregon. CFB needs a salary cap. I don’t know what the cap should be but there needs to be one and then schools can decide how to navigate it. Without it, some of these schools will simply rely on their respective Phil Knights to buy players and possibly even championships.

  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,039 Founders Club

    College football hasn't been very collegiate and it's been pretty hypocritical and complicated for a long time. The value of a degree isn't what is used to be, especially outside of the kinds of major a college football player isn't gonna be allowed the time/energy to pursue. The money got way bigger in the past 25 years and made not paying the players worse and worse and worse.

    I think the NCAA basically just caved and as long as the money is coming in for most no one cares and basically no one is running anything. Fleen and I were recently having dinner with one of the board members who was part of the group to rewrite college sports a few years ago and he disappointingly kind of just said well it's like pro sports now basically and the divisions have their own control or something really flimsy and thankfully someone else said it's actually way worse than pro sports. Pretty much confirmed my suspicions on what happened.

    I think the bigger union and contracts and caps shit hopefully is coming but until the money forces it I'll hold my breath. I also think programs will push the margins but it's a lot harder to do that when you have a threat of getting in trouble.

    I think there's little stuff they could easily fix now too like only allowing one transfer in a career if you're not transferring down a conference, mandatory compensation and bonus sharing from coaches with players, and any NIL contracts need to be public.

  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,039 Founders Club

    Most importantly the portal has and will be the biggest problems, much more than even unlimited bags for hs recruits. Bagging high schoolers you still had to scout and develop but now you can buy players who have already proven themselves at your level which is really fucking easy and prevents programs from having to rebuild at all, which was generally kind of a good part of college football.

    UW can only be so judgy on it all too as UW basically this year has a bough roster of transfers though it's because they really had no other choice since everyone took there's.

  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,381

    Yes, UW had to go after transfers because their roster was gutted by other schools (and guys going onto the NFL). That's much different than buying guys who go into the portal for the biggest payday.

    For instance come December (I think that's when the portal opens), Fisch and co won't need to hit the portal nearly as hard. They'll have to address shortcomings in Lake's and DeBoer's classes. For instance, when DeBoer was hired in late 2021 after the Lake debacle, he was only able to secure one OL (Brailsford) and Brailsford left to join DeBoer at Alabama.

    So there's a big difference between selectively using NIL to fill out a roster decimated due to coaching changes and spending massive amounts of money on guys jumping around to the highest bidder.

    I just think that most CFB enthusiasts want a level playing field as even the NFL (with hundreds of billions at stake every year) has a salary cap.

  • ukdawg
    ukdawg Member Posts: 185

    EXACTLY.

    Nobody wanted Penix he was a 3* dude with an terrible injury history. He followed Deboer and you could say we lucked into both of them. I'm talking big picture here, we can't count on being lucky.

  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,039 Founders Club

    Accurate. UW was in a really bad situation. They really couldn't afford DeBoer to leave even though he was a shitty recruiter. It's a great example of the fucked out nature of the current situation in that UW's best potential outcome once DeBoer left and they hired Fisch was to fully raid Arizona and instead only like 30% raided them and now both programs are mediocre. Sweet.

  • Maceothecat
    Maceothecat Member Posts: 87

    all of the salary cap talk is great and all, but that has nothing to do with nil. that toothpaste is out and on the floor.

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,264 Founders Club

    @WoolleyDoog never upvotes my Seinfeld gifs.

    I shall confront him on the next pod.

  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,039 Founders Club

    I really, really like Seinfeld but I genuinely scroll right past any Seinfeld gif. I'm also just not a big gif guy in general if you notice I've never used one.