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Rick Neuheisel's recruiting created the foundation for UCLA's success

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  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

    How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?
    The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.
    Are you old enough to remember when Neu coached at CU (that's "Colorado").

    Pop quiz: who took over when he left?

    That proves Boob's point - look it up
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014
    Baphomet said:

    Kinda sounds like Sark.

    But with a Rose Bowl win.

    Neu beat Oregon. Nothing else matters.

    He was 2-1 against Oregon. Should've been 3-0.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    edited August 2014
    "He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal."

    Whoa there.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

    How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?
    The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.
    UW's record his last year was better than it's record the year before he arrived. So obviously you're not using last season record to determine "worse by the time he left".

    UCLA's record the year after he left was better than it's record the year before he arrived, so obviously you're not using the year after he left record to determine "worse by the time he left".

    And if you're saying "the metrics" say his last team at UW was worse than Lambo's last team than "the metrics" you are using are wrong.

  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,771
    Comprehensive list of acceptable metrics:























    SCOREBOARD BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    dnc said:

    The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

    How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?
    The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.
    UW's record his last year was better than it's record the year before he arrived. So obviously you're not using last season record to determine "worse by the time he left".

    UCLA's record the year after he left was better than it's record the year before he arrived, so obviously you're not using the year after he left record to determine "worse by the time he left".

    And if you're saying "the metrics" say his last team at UW was worse than Lambo's last team than "the metrics" you are using are wrong.

    7-6 > 6-6 Is that what you're saying? I'll never understand the Rick defenders around here.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited August 2014

    dnc said:

    The metrics show that Neuheisel is/was a terrible coach. At UCLA he went 81-49-65-71. Mora takes that to 30 and 6. No fucking way would UCLA be as good as they are with Mora.

    How many Rose Bowls have the metrics won, smart guy?
    The predictability of the metrics is stronger than that of anything else. He won 1 Rose Bowl. Big fucking deal. He took over 3 programs and they were all worse by the time he left.
    UW's record his last year was better than it's record the year before he arrived. So obviously you're not using last season record to determine "worse by the time he left".

    UCLA's record the year after he left was better than it's record the year before he arrived, so obviously you're not using the year after he left record to determine "worse by the time he left".

    And if you're saying "the metrics" say his last team at UW was worse than Lambo's last team than "the metrics" you are using are wrong.

    7-6 > 6-6 Is that what you're saying? I'll never understand the Rick defenders around here.
    7-6 > 6-6
    +56 point differential > -40 point differential
    Sun Bowel > Oahu Classic

    By any measurement 2002 was a better team than 1998.

    More importantly Chest made the claim that everyone of Rick's teams was WORSE than what he took over, which is just not arguable in the case of UW. You could maybe argue it was equally mediocre (though I'd disagree), but there's no argument that it was worse.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited August 2014
    Sark is better than Ty, everyone says so.

    Rick peaked higher than Lambright, Ty, and Sark for sure, but the trajectory of the program was clearly down when he left. He might not have lost 11 or 12 games, but it's fs to defend such a thoroughly mediocre coach.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Sark is better than Ty, everyone says so.

    I was countering the claim that UW was worse when RN left than when he came. It wasn't.

    hth
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    dnc said:

    Sark is better than Ty, everyone says so.

    I was countering the claim that UW was worse when RN left than when he came. It wasn't.

    hth
    Sounds pretty hypothetical, on the scoreboard they were 7-5 in Rick's first year, and 6-6, 1-11 under Gilby. What improvement?