if Ryan "John" Grubb ends up being the guy we should have hired?
We were in a position where we couldn't take that kind of chance, so I'm not blaming Dannan. But wouldn't it be something in retrospect if it proves out.
This is a classic blind squirrel scenario. Grubb could be better. Fisch was by far the better hire at the time based on his resume. Did the Hawks(ILTCTT) find a a nut?
OC to head coach is such a different skill set (CEO). Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a brilliant OC (or DC) to let them lead your org, and there are many successes out there like that, but none really get to the very top of the sport without changing and evolving. Lincoln Riley, Leach, Venables, Tedford, all excellent on one side of the ball, but make them lead a team and they're able to make that team good but never great. I would even toss Sark in here though maybe he's been HC for so long now that he's learned that part (lol j/k).
No idea if Grubb has that in him - he might, but hasn't had the CEO opportunity, and if we've learned anything it's that you don't try that for the first time at Washington. The Kirby Smarts and Bob Stoops of the world are rare.
It seems like Grubb is an X and O guy. NFL is perfect for that because you don't have to worry about recruits. He seems like a nerd on offense so he was probably going to go to the NFL anyways.
I saw a video on Youtube where a Pats fan was breaking down film and marveling how Seattle seemed to know what defense NE was going to be in and then exploited it. So then I got to thinking "What if Grubb's a playcalling prodigy and we had a shot but missed it?" But again, we couldn't afford to take that kind of chance in that moment so I'm not implying we blew it per se.
Being a great play caller doesn't always equate to being a great college coach. There's recruiting (of course) and having to adjust every year with a new roster. We don't know if Ryan Grubb can be that guy. Just enjoy he can nerd out on the Seahawks offense,
Yeah I was talked out of that here before the season started and it was the right thing to do. I think there's a chance UW might have been better this year, but recruiting would have sucked and it wouldn't work in the long run. I didn't get the vibe either that a bunch of impact players were going to come back/stay for him anyway.
I really feel like the Lambo, Gilby, Jimmy internal coordinator promotion disasters really made it impossible to hire Grubb.
I know Hardcore Husky has a lot of degenerate jokes but I appreciate these real football talks. No where else you can have these talks about the Huskies
feel like we? would be 1-2 or 0-3 with grubb as HC. entire roster left, doubt he could have gotten anything in the portal. fisch is an asshole, thats why i like him as hc.
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This is a classic blind squirrel scenario. Grubb could be better. Fisch was by far the better hire at the time based on his resume. Did the Hawks(ILTCTT) find a a nut?
He'll be there when we need him. Hes a warshington man
Was there any proof he could recruit? Great coach without any players doesn’t amount to much.
OC to head coach is such a different skill set (CEO). Sometimes it can be worth it to overpay a brilliant OC (or DC) to let them lead your org, and there are many successes out there like that, but none really get to the very top of the sport without changing and evolving. Lincoln Riley, Leach, Venables, Tedford, all excellent on one side of the ball, but make them lead a team and they're able to make that team good but never great. I would even toss Sark in here though maybe he's been HC for so long now that he's learned that part (lol j/k).
No idea if Grubb has that in him - he might, but hasn't had the CEO opportunity, and if we've learned anything it's that you don't try that for the first time at Washington. The Kirby Smarts and Bob Stoops of the world are rare.
No. If he's successful as an OC in the NFL he's going to get a head coaching job in the NFL.
When Dan Lanning and Ryan Day meet at third base in a couple of weeks we can compare notes on coordinators
It seems like Grubb is an X and O guy. NFL is perfect for that because you don't have to worry about recruits. He seems like a nerd on offense so he was probably going to go to the NFL anyways.
it’s been since 1957 since we hit in an assistant corch and that was some Bear Bryant junction bois shit.
we done here ?
I saw a video on Youtube where a Pats fan was breaking down film and marveling how Seattle seemed to know what defense NE was going to be in and then exploited it. So then I got to thinking "What if Grubb's a playcalling prodigy and we had a shot but missed it?" But again, we couldn't afford to take that kind of chance in that moment so I'm not implying we blew it per se.
Yes the Gilby theory. I get it
James and DeBoer and Rick were all head coaches
No set formula but that's what has worked here
Petersen too
And now Fisch
Willingham too
1-11
5-7
10-3
Fisch laid a turd last Saturday, but need to stick to the formula.
Being a great play caller doesn't always equate to being a great college coach. There's recruiting (of course) and having to adjust every year with a new roster. We don't know if Ryan Grubb can be that guy. Just enjoy he can nerd out on the Seahawks offense,
Yes, like I said above where I referred to the Gilby Theory
Yeah I was talked out of that here before the season started and it was the right thing to do. I think there's a chance UW might have been better this year, but recruiting would have sucked and it wouldn't work in the long run. I didn't get the vibe either that a bunch of impact players were going to come back/stay for him anyway.
I really feel like the Lambo, Gilby, Jimmy internal coordinator promotion disasters really made it impossible to hire Grubb.
I know Hardcore Husky has a lot of degenerate jokes but I appreciate these real football talks. No where else you can have these talks about the Huskies
feel like we? would be 1-2 or 0-3 with grubb as HC. entire roster left, doubt he could have gotten anything in the portal. fisch is an asshole, thats why i like him as hc.
One of these days I might finally implement Pup's Super Secret Higher Discussion Board. Pup bellyached for years about wanting one
@Bruce
As basically a CEO myself, I agree with your position description.