Meanwhile, at Cal still too high
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Biden sends billions to Iran
What matters more?
Leaders of Hamas call for death to America
H agrees
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I don’t recall voting for or even mentioning whoever that is, lady. You actively support and defend the “Death to America” crowd all the time, though. I’m old enough to remember Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11/01 to celebrate the deaths.
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Whoooooosh
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you came back just to do that?
unlike literally every poster who frequents the Tug, I always give you the courtesy of an above-board response. I actually want to know what someone left of center has to say about this issue. Perhaps this is why you get clown-car'd here.
I want to hear more about this "sort them". How do you do that? Has the US ever sorted any population before military action? Did the Allies look for fine people on both sides in Germany, Italy or Japan first? Israel is a country that is literally surrounded by those who want to see their extermination. And unlike you, those people don't want to "sort the Jews" to find the acceptable ones, because in their view there is no such thing.
I want to be challenged by a coherent argument that the population of Arab Muslims in the area we call Palestine are not overwhelmingly hostile to Israel and support (if not actively engage in) activity that is intended for its destruction. I mean, that appears to be the fact. No?
Don't you distinguish between a country like Israel, which embraces democratic values and welcomes a diverse citizenry (even though the country was founded on principles or a history of religion) and what a separate Palestinian state would be? Do you not find any humor in seeing Gay Pride flags and women screaming in men's faces at "Free Palestine" rallies when you know full well neither of those people would survive a day in pre-10/7 Gaza?
How does all that strike you? Honestly. These are not rhetorical questions. Throw something out there.
The left has completely abandoned a fully functioning democracy that exists in a geography where totalitarianism, xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny and sectarian (religious and cultural) zealousy is the rule rather than the exception. It has been, and will always be, a place ruled by goons.
I would think every far left extremist in the US would be secretly rooting on Team Israel to go full tilt and level the fucking place … for real. Instead, it has responded to world pressure (and probably just because of who they are) and has tried to do the impossible: selectively target and kill Hamas in a densely populated place where they are virtually indistinguishable for the general population.
Again, I ask: tell me about this sorting you speak of. I don't get it.
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You mean I can't propose an all-encompassing comprehensive solution to this problem here on the Tug? Imagine that.
I do know that if you assume your opponents are inhuman, you'll be able to justify anything done to them. Of course, I'd say the same thing to a Palestinian. I can hold both Hamas apologists and Israel Uber Alles advocates in contempt at the exact same time.
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You act like you’re special and that the idiotic troll is going to be bowled over by your wasted time responding to him with facts and consistent logic.
He’s trolling you hard and he loves it. It’s that simple. It excites him that you’d spend the time directing anything at him.
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also would like to know what you think about a US senator chanting "from the river to the sea" and her bullshit denial that it is a saying that is hostile to Israel, but rather an "aspirational call for freedom, human rights and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction or hate,"
I think you and I have agreed in other threads here that when you have to lie to support, justify or explain your words it usually means that you know your position is weak and you're full of shit.
Is what's her face full of shit? She's the only Palestinian in Congress and that's what she gets caught saying. And she doesn't see the irony that she says it on a platform afforded to few and one which she wouldn't have a snowball's chance in the Saudi desert of having anywhere in her home region.
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High school shit right here. A binary thinker.
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I think it's fucking stupid and pretending it doesn't mean what everyone knows it means is just a Left-wing version of "January 6 was tourist event".

