OT: Mariners

RoadDawg55

In case you buttsniffers have forgotten, I said TSIO right before they went on the winning streak.

Tequilla

I'm shocked that nobody on this bored mentioned that F^3 was busy scolding people on Twitter last night about how appalled he was that the crowd was chanting "USA! USA! USA!" when the Mariners were doing good ...

PurpleJ

When is Adam Jones bobble head night?

dnc

PurpleJ said:

When is Adam Jones bobble head night?

That trade still angers me. Bavasi's obvious attempt to save his job screwed the M's over for years.

GrundleStiltzkin

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Get into the playoffs then pop off.

Tequilla

dnc said:

PurpleJ said:

When is Adam Jones bobble head night?

That trade still angers me. Bavasi's obvious attempt to save his job screwed the M's over for years.

Biggest problem with that trade is that the Mariners suck developing hitters ... so when they have one that you're pretty sure is going to hit in the majors, you can't trade him.

You can sign a FA pitcher to come to Seattle pretty easily ... who wouldn't want to pitch in a pitcher's park? But a FA hitter? Good luck without massively overpaying him. That's why it's so important for the Mariners to get hitters either through their system or obtained via trade.

PurpleJ

RoadDawg55 said:

In case you buttsniffers have forgotten, I said TSIO right before they went on the winning streak.

I said TSIO way back in 1977.

#Bleenor

RaceBannon

PurpleJ said:

RoadDawg55 said:

In case you buttsniffers have forgotten, I said TSIO right before they went on the winning streak.

I said TSIO way back in 1977.

#Bleenor

I said it in 1968.

Go Pilots Go!

dnc

Tequilla said:

dnc said:

PurpleJ said:

When is Adam Jones bobble head night?

That trade still angers me. Bavasi's obvious attempt to save his job screwed the M's over for years.

Biggest problem with that trade is that the Mariners suck developing hitters ... so when they have one that you're pretty sure is going to hit in the majors, you can't trade him.

You can sign a FA pitcher to come to Seattle pretty easily ... who wouldn't want to pitch in a pitcher's park? But a FA hitter? Good luck without massively overpaying him. That's why it's so important for the Mariners to get hitters either through their system or obtained via trade.

That was a problem but it wasn't the biggest problem. The biggest problem was you traded a cost controlled, major league ready prospect who projected to have two way value (at a position of need no less) for an injury prone pitcher coming off of one big year. And then you added in a very good setup man and two very good pitching prospects on top of that.

I wouldn't have traded Jones straight up for Bedard. Adding Sherrill, Tillman and Butler was Section14FS.

On top of that, it was a classic misevaluation of where the M's were in the success cycle. They were coming off a fluky decent year so Bavasi made a move like they were one piece away, but anyone paying attention knew that team needed a hell of a lot more than one more pitcher. Even if Bedard had been a Cy Young award winner that trade would have been a waste.

CuntWaffle

I think if Felix goes out and dominates the Tigers on the road then he will start to get national recognition like Kershaw has been getting. It is kind of sad to see him getting swept under the rug during such a historic pitching season.