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Oregon/Nike/ESPN/Cowherd catching the ricochet shot.haie said:
15-0. Not even a debate. Only retards care about style points against mediocre/bad teams.bananasnblondes said:If we win this week, are the 2023 huskies the greatest Pac 8/10/12 team of all time?
(Excluding 2023 Oregon,of course)
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Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit -
WTF man? We're in a PANDEMIC. Stay home, stay safe.EsophagealFeces said:
Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit -
Yeah that pass on the 2nd to last possession goes without saying. A throw out of bounds, no less. Still, a first down there and it's game. I can disagree with passing and understand it at the same time. I have superpowers. I certainly didn't during the game though. I was a mere mortal that evening.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice. -
Pandemic ended 5/11/23.GrundleStiltzkin said:
WTF man? We're in a PANDEMIC. Stay home, stay safe.EsophagealFeces said:
Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit
You can leave the house. You can live dangerously.
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I almost like you better in the Tug… AlmostHHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
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I’ll “get over it” when I see some sign the staff actually recognizes its clock management performance as a problem. I don’t like playing Russian Roulette with this team’s season.EsophagealFeces said:
Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit -
Threw to ice the game against OSU. Great callHHusky said:
The Sugar Bowl clock fuck up was on the previous possession. Our penultimate possession. We would have ended the game taking a knee but for that.BleachedAnusDawg said:
To me, it was different because DJ was killing Oregon all game. He got shut down by Texas. I had zero confidence we could run for a first down in that situation.AtomicDawg said:
Was it that much different than running the clock out vs oregon? Everyone was jacking off to dj getting the first down in that game. They were giving the ball back without a first down and things got cataclysmic real fast.HHusky said:
It wasn’t a one time thing. It’s been on display a lot this season.fivehundredmileDAWG said:
On the bright side DeBoer won’t do that again.HHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad.
We also saw clock management malpractice in the Apple Cup and the Arizona game.
Missed it vs Texas. Horrible call
Went for it on 4th down in the first half, made it then scored a TD. Great call.
Went for it and got stuffed. Shitty call
Run for 1st down against Oregon ices game. Great call
Run on a play that needs 4 less yards against Texas and Johnson can’t get off the field for the first time all year. Shitty call.
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We've won multiple games because we played Spin the Cylinder. We ain't 14-0 without it.HHusky said:
I’ll “get over it” when I see some sign the staff actually recognizes its clock management performance as a problem. I don’t like playing Russian Roulette with this team’s season.EsophagealFeces said:
Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit -
Since Penix threw over 70 percent for 430 yards H is left grasping for something to complain about
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Do you understand the difference between calculated risk and recklessness?Alexis said:
Threw to ice the game against OSU. Great callHHusky said:
The Sugar Bowl clock fuck up was on the previous possession. Our penultimate possession. We would have ended the game taking a knee but for that.BleachedAnusDawg said:
To me, it was different because DJ was killing Oregon all game. He got shut down by Texas. I had zero confidence we could run for a first down in that situation.AtomicDawg said:
Was it that much different than running the clock out vs oregon? Everyone was jacking off to dj getting the first down in that game. They were giving the ball back without a first down and things got cataclysmic real fast.HHusky said:
It wasn’t a one time thing. It’s been on display a lot this season.fivehundredmileDAWG said:
On the bright side DeBoer won’t do that again.HHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad.
We also saw clock management malpractice in the Apple Cup and the Arizona game.
Missed it vs Texas. Horrible call
Went for it on 4th down in the first half, made it then scored a TD. Great call.
Went for it and got stuffed. Shitty call
Run for 1st down against Oregon ices game. Great call
Run on a play that needs 4 less yards against Texas and Johnson can’t get off the field for the first time all year. Shitty call.
Do I got this right?
Rhetorical question. Obviously. -
I mean it’s not even a discussion. There’s actually stakes involved in the Sugar Bowl game. At the end of the day, winning the 2000 Rose Bowl was nice, but not really anything on the line.
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If anyone is still mad they lead a miserable and pathetic life at this point. 14-1 is no longer in play. Ride the wave. We have the best player in the history of the program/country this year and he is confident as hell going into the ncg. The wr's all think they're the best best players on the field. Our oline is nails. Live it up.
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When your opponent is about to bleed out, you don’t offer him a tourniquet.CallMeBigErn said:
We've won multiple games because we played Spin the Cylinder. We ain't 14-0 without it.HHusky said:
I’ll “get over it” when I see some sign the staff actually recognizes its clock management performance as a problem. I don’t like playing Russian Roulette with this team’s season.EsophagealFeces said:
Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit -
This is not surprising coming from youHHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad. -
Sure. Throwing a 14 yard out in a monsoon on 3rd down in Corvallis was reckless.HHusky said:
Do you understand the difference between calculated risk and recklessness?Alexis said:
Threw to ice the game against OSU. Great callHHusky said:
The Sugar Bowl clock fuck up was on the previous possession. Our penultimate possession. We would have ended the game taking a knee but for that.BleachedAnusDawg said:
To me, it was different because DJ was killing Oregon all game. He got shut down by Texas. I had zero confidence we could run for a first down in that situation.AtomicDawg said:
Was it that much different than running the clock out vs oregon? Everyone was jacking off to dj getting the first down in that game. They were giving the ball back without a first down and things got cataclysmic real fast.HHusky said:
It wasn’t a one time thing. It’s been on display a lot this season.fivehundredmileDAWG said:
On the bright side DeBoer won’t do that again.HHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad.
We also saw clock management malpractice in the Apple Cup and the Arizona game.
Missed it vs Texas. Horrible call
Went for it on 4th down in the first half, made it then scored a TD. Great call.
Went for it and got stuffed. Shitty call
Run for 1st down against Oregon ices game. Great call
Run on a play that needs 4 less yards against Texas and Johnson can’t get off the field for the first time all year. Shitty call.
Do I got this right?
Rhetorical question. Obviously.
Moron. -
Apparently there’s nothing this staff can ever do wrong. That’s very good news. Thanks for sharing.Alexis said:
Sure. Throwing a 14 yard out in a monsoon on 3rd down in Corvallis was reckless.HHusky said:
Do you understand the difference between calculated risk and recklessness?Alexis said:
Threw to ice the game against OSU. Great callHHusky said:
The Sugar Bowl clock fuck up was on the previous possession. Our penultimate possession. We would have ended the game taking a knee but for that.BleachedAnusDawg said:
To me, it was different because DJ was killing Oregon all game. He got shut down by Texas. I had zero confidence we could run for a first down in that situation.AtomicDawg said:
Was it that much different than running the clock out vs oregon? Everyone was jacking off to dj getting the first down in that game. They were giving the ball back without a first down and things got cataclysmic real fast.HHusky said:
It wasn’t a one time thing. It’s been on display a lot this season.fivehundredmileDAWG said:
On the bright side DeBoer won’t do that again.HHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad.
We also saw clock management malpractice in the Apple Cup and the Arizona game.
Missed it vs Texas. Horrible call
Went for it on 4th down in the first half, made it then scored a TD. Great call.
Went for it and got stuffed. Shitty call
Run for 1st down against Oregon ices game. Great call
Run on a play that needs 4 less yards against Texas and Johnson can’t get off the field for the first time all year. Shitty call.
Do I got this right?
Rhetorical question. Obviously.
Moron. -
And?CuntWaffle said:
This is not surprising coming from youHHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad. -
I will never forget the 3rd down out in Corvallis.
Well worth the shitty weather to watch that stadium fucking book it out after that. -
Make the smart call and not only do we still win with the ball in our hands, our best running back isn’t carted off the field.AtomicDawg said:If anyone is still mad they lead a miserable and pathetic life at this point. 14-1 is no longer in play. Ride the wave. We have the best player in the history of the program/country this year and he is confident as hell going into the ncg. The wr's all think they're the best best players on the field. Our oline is nails. Live it up.
The football gods punish stupid decisions.
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Gawd, we can always count on you to show up with this well reasoned horse shit at just the right moment ~ we all fkn get it, there are just a few more subtleties that you are always unwilling to connect the dots on ~ hence your insane level of popularity on here… and it continues.
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Complain all you want but the fact is that the magic of this team has been their belief and in the moment execution of dominant dick swinging behavior in the face of big moments.RaceBannon said:Since Penix threw over 70 percent for 430 yards H is left grasping for something to complain about
I’m a believer in the magic of what we are seeing and have been for a while now… @HHusky for once, you might want to get current with the positive energy of the moment
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It’s not magic and dumb decisions often come back to bite.TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
Complain all you want but the fact is that the magic of this team has been their belief and in the moment execution of dominant dick swinging behavior in the face of big moments.RaceBannon said:Since Penix threw over 70 percent for 430 yards H is left grasping for something to complain about
I’m a believer in the magic of what we are seeing and have been for a while now… @HHusky for once, you might want to get current with the positive energy of the moment
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4th down call against Cuog as well.Alexis said:
Threw to ice the game against OSU. Great callHHusky said:
The Sugar Bowl clock fuck up was on the previous possession. Our penultimate possession. We would have ended the game taking a knee but for that.BleachedAnusDawg said:
To me, it was different because DJ was killing Oregon all game. He got shut down by Texas. I had zero confidence we could run for a first down in that situation.AtomicDawg said:
Was it that much different than running the clock out vs oregon? Everyone was jacking off to dj getting the first down in that game. They were giving the ball back without a first down and things got cataclysmic real fast.HHusky said:
It wasn’t a one time thing. It’s been on display a lot this season.fivehundredmileDAWG said:
On the bright side DeBoer won’t do that again.HHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad.
We also saw clock management malpractice in the Apple Cup and the Arizona game.
Missed it vs Texas. Horrible call
Went for it on 4th down in the first half, made it then scored a TD. Great call.
Went for it and got stuffed. Shitty call
Run for 1st down against Oregon ices game. Great call
Run on a play that needs 4 less yards against Texas and Johnson can’t get off the field for the first time all year. Shitty call.
Do I got this right? -
This threads gayer than my circle jerk thread.
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I know you're probably a staunch Husky supporter who just hasn't seen a hill they won't die on. I get it. Pride is a motherfucker. That being said, I vote that your championship ring be denied and given to someone more deserving, like your ex-wife or ex-husband. Either one.HHusky said:
It’s not magic and dumb decisions often come back to bite.TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
Complain all you want but the fact is that the magic of this team has been their belief and in the moment execution of dominant dick swinging behavior in the face of big moments.RaceBannon said:Since Penix threw over 70 percent for 430 yards H is left grasping for something to complain about
I’m a believer in the magic of what we are seeing and have been for a while now… @HHusky for once, you might want to get current with the positive energy of the moment -
Dude has 8 boosters. What's he worried about?GrundleStiltzkin said:
WTF man? We're in a PANDEMIC. Stay home, stay safe.EsophagealFeces said:
Get the fuck over it, dude. Was the clock management bad? Yes. Did we still win? Yes.HHusky said:
The jugular in the Sugar Bowl was making Texas choose whether to use its second timeout with 2:40 remaining or let the field goal be kicked with 2 minutes left. There was no benefit to passing there. Two score advantage whether we get a TD or a field goal. What COULD be accomplished was to bleed clock or force the second timeout.CallMeBigErn said:
Think we have to accept the good with the bad a bit with these guys. They like to go for the jugular even when it ain't exactly prudent to do so. High risk/high reward big swinging donkey dick stuff. Certainly helps keep Ds on their heels and that effect is hard to quantify. It will bite us someday but I can't argue with the results thus far. Despite all that shit, it mostly was the DJ injury timeout and the punt catch interference that gave those cows a chance. Hard to blame coaches there (except taking knees wouldn't get a player hurt but I digress).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Clock management vs going for the kill shot. I believe there’s a way to do both but it feel like Apple Cup, Arizona game, 1st Oregon and the Sigar Bowl all had possessions were UW could’ve run some clock, pick up some yards and then get into possession for the kill shot.
DeBoer and Grubb want what they want though.
Coaching malpractice.
If it costs us the natty, we’ll all be losing our shit over it. Until then:
1. Find your wife
2. Find a beach
3. Take a walk
4. Find some perspective
5. Profit
See ??HHusky said:
Do you understand the difference between calculated risk and recklessness?Alexis said:
Threw to ice the game against OSU. Great callHHusky said:
The Sugar Bowl clock fuck up was on the previous possession. Our penultimate possession. We would have ended the game taking a knee but for that.BleachedAnusDawg said:
To me, it was different because DJ was killing Oregon all game. He got shut down by Texas. I had zero confidence we could run for a first down in that situation.AtomicDawg said:
Was it that much different than running the clock out vs oregon? Everyone was jacking off to dj getting the first down in that game. They were giving the ball back without a first down and things got cataclysmic real fast.HHusky said:
It wasn’t a one time thing. It’s been on display a lot this season.fivehundredmileDAWG said:
On the bright side DeBoer won’t do that again.HHusky said:Don James wasn’t one to fuck up clock management.
I’m still mad.
We also saw clock management malpractice in the Apple Cup and the Arizona game.
Missed it vs Texas. Horrible call
Went for it on 4th down in the first half, made it then scored a TD. Great call.
Went for it and got stuffed. Shitty call
Run for 1st down against Oregon ices game. Great call
Run on a play that needs 4 less yards against Texas and Johnson can’t get off the field for the first time all year. Shitty call.
Do I got this right?
Rhetorical question. Obviously.
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Terrible clock management is just part of the fun, apparently.CallMeBigErn said:
I know you're probably a staunch Husky supporter who just hasn't seen a hill they won't die on. I get it. Pride is a motherfucker. That being said, I vote that your championship ring be denied and given to someone more deserving, like your ex-wife or ex-husband. Either one.HHusky said:
It’s not magic and dumb decisions often come back to bite.TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
Complain all you want but the fact is that the magic of this team has been their belief and in the moment execution of dominant dick swinging behavior in the face of big moments.RaceBannon said:Since Penix threw over 70 percent for 430 yards H is left grasping for something to complain about
I’m a believer in the magic of what we are seeing and have been for a while now… @HHusky for once, you might want to get current with the positive energy of the moment -
HHusky said:
Terrible clock management is just part of the fun, apparently.CallMeBigErn said:
I know you're probably a staunch Husky supporter who just hasn't seen a hill they won't die on. I get it. Pride is a motherfucker. That being said, I vote that your championship ring be denied and given to someone more deserving, like your ex-wife or ex-husband. Either one.HHusky said:
It’s not magic and dumb decisions often come back to bite.TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:
Complain all you want but the fact is that the magic of this team has been their belief and in the moment execution of dominant dick swinging behavior in the face of big moments.RaceBannon said:Since Penix threw over 70 percent for 430 yards H is left grasping for something to complain about
I’m a believer in the magic of what we are seeing and have been for a while now… @HHusky for once, you might want to get current with the positive energy of the moment -
I was in my car yesterday thinking about it and the only comparison I could think of was some of Mahomes' performancesWilburHooksHands said:been thinking about it and penix in the sugar bowl was literally the best i’ve ever seen a qb throw the ball
