A date which will live in infamy

RaceBannon

The university president didn't like the coach being more famous

A story as old as time

Patton and MacArthur were right about the reds but an invasion of China would have been suicide

The USSR when the US had the only bomb is a different story

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

YellowSnow said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

Fishpo31 said:

Had to wait for Truman to get his guys in there…

And McArthur did a good job…too bad he couldn’t keep it going in @DerekJohnson’s Korea.

BTW, McArthur’s photo with Emperor Hirohito is one of my favorite portraits for some reason. Probably because it’s super awkward…like when Petersen went on one of his recruiting home visits.

MacArthur was a pansy who abandoned his men like Petersen did at the Rose Bowl.

Pansy isn’t the right word. He was highly decorated in WW1- e.g., distinguished service cross and silver stars. And it was FDR who ordered him to evacuate Bataan.

But he was a vainglorious ‘sum bitch who fucked up in Korea badly.

He was a diva for sure. Pansy might be a stretch.

YellowSnow

DerekJohnson said:

I'm almost finished with a fascinating book about South Korea. The Koreans have a word called "jeong" that doesn't have an English equivalent. But its basically a feeling or energy that exists between people or between a person and a place. A feeling of extreme loyalty in a sense that goes beyond love and more toward devotion.

In the time during the Japanese occupation, Koreans had a widespread reputation for being slothful and lazy. When they achieved independence from Japan, that feeling of jeong really went into hyperdrive as the country banded together. When a strong Christian influence intermixed with the pre-existing Buddhist and Confucian traditions, it sparked a nationwide obsession to better themselves as a country and to be the best. When a Korean raises a fist and says the English word "fighting!", they aren't just saying cheer up or hang in there. It is actually more drawing upon the embattled history of South Korea and a reminder that they owe it not just to themselves to do their best, but they owe it to their country. Maybe JFK touched upon this kind of thing briefly when he exhorted Americans to "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

There are stories of Americans (and other nationalities) visiting Korea and losing something like a wallet, and then being astonished when a Korean found it and went to great lengths to track down the owner and return it to them. Americans think it is amazing politeness, but it is actually rooted in jeong.

PurpleJ

AOG said:

History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

Tell that to the Mongolians

PurpleJ

RaceBannon said:

#ScoJaps


Too soon?

Way to rep the Pacific Rim! We’ll be rootin for ya!

Doog_de_Jour

PurpleJ said:

AOG said:

History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

Tell that to the Mongolians

Yup. The Japanese, like England, had the divine wind. The OG kamikaze.

PurpleThrobber

PurpleJ said:

AOG said:

History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

Tell that to the Mongolians

You mean the Tartarians?

TheHB

PurpleJ said:

AOG said:

History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

Tell that to the Mongolians

Pretty sure they prefer to be called people with Down Syndrome.

backthepack

Take it to the tug

Doog_de_Jour

backthepack said:

Take it to the tug

Historical higher level discussion is now the Shoppe’s turf.