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A date which will live in infamy

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,377 Founders Club
    The university president didn't like the coach being more famous

    A story as old as time

    Patton and MacArthur were right about the reds but an invasion of China would have been suicide

    The USSR when the US had the only bomb is a different story
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,873 Founders Club

    Fishpo31 said:

    Had to wait for Truman to get his guys in there…

    And McArthur did a good job…too bad he couldn’t keep it going in @DerekJohnson’s Korea.

    BTW, McArthur’s photo with Emperor Hirohito is one of my favorite portraits for some reason. Probably because it’s super awkward…like when Petersen went on one of his recruiting home visits.


    MacArthur was a pansy who abandoned his men like Petersen did at the Rose Bowl.
    Pansy isn’t the right word. He was highly decorated in WW1- e.g., distinguished service cross and silver stars. And it was FDR who ordered him to evacuate Bataan.

    But he was a vainglorious ‘sum bitch who fucked up in Korea badly.
    He was a diva for sure. Pansy might be a stretch.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 36,841 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

    Tell that to the Mongolians
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    AOG said:

    History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

    Tell that to the Mongolians
    Yup. The Japanese, like England, had the divine wind. The OG kamikaze.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,489 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    AOG said:

    History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

    Tell that to the Mongolians
    You mean the Tartarians?

  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,748 Swaye's Wigwam
    PurpleJ said:

    AOG said:

    History shows the Japs are much better with making cars than wars

    Tell that to the Mongolians
    Pretty sure they prefer to be called people with Down Syndrome.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,839
    Take it to the tug
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958 Standard Supporter

    Take it to the tug

    Historical higher level discussion is now the Shoppe’s turf.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,907 Swaye's Wigwam



    Yella is right. This was the I'm your captain now moment. And your emperor isn't a god because I beat his ass

    He didn't even put on a dress uniform. Just his regular old khakis that he waded ashore in on Luzon.

    The greatest big dick move ever by a US Citizen of a foreign head of state.

    "You're no longer a god king, but I'll spare you from the gallows if you help me rebuild this place."
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,160

    Fishpo31 said:

    Had to wait for Truman to get his guys in there…

    And McArthur did a good job…too bad he couldn’t keep it going in @DerekJohnson’s Korea.

    BTW, McArthur’s photo with Emperor Hirohito is one of my favorite portraits for some reason. Probably because it’s super awkward…like when Petersen went on one of his recruiting home visits.


    MacArthur was a pansy who abandoned his men like Petersen did at the Rose Bowl.
    Pansy isn’t the right word. He was highly decorated in WW1- e.g., distinguished service cross and silver stars. And it was FDR who ordered him to evacuate Bataan.

    But he was a vainglorious ‘sum bitch who fucked up in Korea badly.
    Coward is a better word. Much better men than MacArthur have defied orders from their superiors and insisted on dying with their men when their cause was lost.

    Instead, MacArthur fled in the dark of night and left 10,000+ of his own men to fend for themselves and endure a hellish death march at the hands of bloodthirsty Japanese. MacArthur should have appropriated the practice of sepuku from them.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,718 Swaye's Wigwam

    I'm almost finished with a fascinating book about South Korea. The Koreans have a word called "jeong" that doesn't have an English equivalent. But its basically a feeling or energy that exists between people or between a person and a place. A feeling of extreme loyalty in a sense that goes beyond love and more toward devotion.

    In the time during the Japanese occupation, Koreans had a widespread reputation for being slothful and lazy. When they achieved independence from Japan, that feeling of jeong really went into hyperdrive as the country banded together. When a strong Christian influence intermixed with the pre-existing Buddhist and Confucian traditions, it sparked a nationwide obsession to better themselves as a country and to be the best. When a Korean raises a fist and says the English word "fighting!", they aren't just saying cheer up or hang in there. It is actually more drawing upon the embattled history of South Korea and a reminder that they owe it not just to themselves to do their best, but they owe it to their country. Maybe JFK touched upon this kind of thing briefly when he exhorted Americans to "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

    There are stories of Americans (and other nationalities) visiting Korea and losing something like a wallet, and then being astonished when a Korean found it and went to great lengths to track down the owner and return it to them. Americans think it is amazing politeness, but it is actually rooted in jeong.



    You were just looking for an excuse to post the gif… we get it, Korean women are your thing. 😆
  • TXDawgTXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 827 Founders Club

    I'm almost finished with a fascinating book about South Korea. The Koreans have a word called "jeong" that doesn't have an English equivalent. But its basically a feeling or energy that exists between people or between a person and a place. A feeling of extreme loyalty in a sense that goes beyond love and more toward devotion.

    In the time during the Japanese occupation, Koreans had a widespread reputation for being slothful and lazy. When they achieved independence from Japan, that feeling of jeong really went into hyperdrive as the country banded together. When a strong Christian influence intermixed with the pre-existing Buddhist and Confucian traditions, it sparked a nationwide obsession to better themselves as a country and to be the best. When a Korean raises a fist and says the English word "fighting!", they aren't just saying cheer up or hang in there. It is actually more drawing upon the embattled history of South Korea and a reminder that they owe it not just to themselves to do their best, but they owe it to their country. Maybe JFK touched upon this kind of thing briefly when he exhorted Americans to "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

    There are stories of Americans (and other nationalities) visiting Korea and losing something like a wallet, and then being astonished when a Korean found it and went to great lengths to track down the owner and return it to them. Americans think it is amazing politeness, but it is actually rooted in jeong.



    You were just looking for an excuse to post the gif… we get it, Korean women are your thing. 😆
    But you do have to admire the dedication to the game fetish.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,718 Swaye's Wigwam
    TXDawg said:

    I'm almost finished with a fascinating book about South Korea. The Koreans have a word called "jeong" that doesn't have an English equivalent. But its basically a feeling or energy that exists between people or between a person and a place. A feeling of extreme loyalty in a sense that goes beyond love and more toward devotion.

    In the time during the Japanese occupation, Koreans had a widespread reputation for being slothful and lazy. When they achieved independence from Japan, that feeling of jeong really went into hyperdrive as the country banded together. When a strong Christian influence intermixed with the pre-existing Buddhist and Confucian traditions, it sparked a nationwide obsession to better themselves as a country and to be the best. When a Korean raises a fist and says the English word "fighting!", they aren't just saying cheer up or hang in there. It is actually more drawing upon the embattled history of South Korea and a reminder that they owe it not just to themselves to do their best, but they owe it to their country. Maybe JFK touched upon this kind of thing briefly when he exhorted Americans to "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

    There are stories of Americans (and other nationalities) visiting Korea and losing something like a wallet, and then being astonished when a Korean found it and went to great lengths to track down the owner and return it to them. Americans think it is amazing politeness, but it is actually rooted in jeong.



    You were just looking for an excuse to post the gif… we get it, Korean women are your thing. 😆
    But you do have to admire the dedication to the game fetish.
    I bet his onlyfans follows are amazing and all Korean.
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