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  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283
    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,607

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283
    edited November 2023
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    That’s where I disagree with the original conspiracy on some of it’s data input.

    There’s always been a big possibility of losing to the biggest brand in the conference. We’ve never taken any chances.

    Or it’s that Oregon has been doing this against every team in the conference for 20 years and UW has just happened to start to win every once in a while rendering the entire UW fan base into simp puddles. No pun intended.

    And his name is The Duck.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Swaye's Wigwam

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    They mostly wear black or yellow with no green. Iowa/WV looking shit. Just in case of embarrassment

    *faggy wink*
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    Devs?
  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283
    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283
    edited November 2023
    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
    Whew. Good thing this isn't a science experiment.

    I do however think that the science is settled on this topic.
  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
    Whew. Good thing this isn't a science experiment.

    I do however think that the science is settled on this topic.
    Right, it’s just more nonsense out of the UW camp because Oregon has terrorized your entire adult life.

    Which is what we’ve been saying the whole time.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2023

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
    Whew. Good thing this isn't a science experiment.

    I do however think that the science is settled on this topic.
    Right, it’s just more nonsense out of the UW camp because Oregon has terrorized your entire adult life.

    Which is what we’ve been saying the whole time.
    This only became a rivalry because Oregon who was prison raped for 100+ years on the field lucked into a pro sports owner that bought their football team instead of Stanford's, and then decided that some random game in 1994 meant that they were now Washington.

    Which we both know they will never be in any aspect. Not just football.

    I'm told that is being "innovative" though.
  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283
    edited November 2023
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
    Whew. Good thing this isn't a science experiment.

    I do however think that the science is settled on this topic.
    Right, it’s just more nonsense out of the UW camp because Oregon has terrorized your entire adult life.

    Which is what we’ve been saying the whole time.
    This only became a rivalry because Oregon who was prison raped for 100+ years on the field lucked into a pro sports owner that bought their football team instead of Stanford's, and then decided that some random game in 1994 meant that they were now Washington.

    Which we both know they will never be in any aspect. Not just football.

    I'm told that is being "innovative" though.
    Jesus Christ. I hope we’re not Washington.

    #listofgrievances
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,607

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    That’s where I disagree with the original conspiracy on some of it’s data input.

    There’s always been a big possibility of losing to the biggest brand in the conference. We’ve never taken any chances.

    Or it’s that Oregon has been doing this against every team in the conference for 20 years and UW has just happened to start to win every once in a while rendering the entire UW fan base into simp puddles. No pun intended.

    And his name is The Duck.
    As you probably noticed haie only started putting qualifiers on the conspiracy theory after he had already put his head up his ass. His initial head up the ass claim had no limit to only when Oregon plays Washington nor was there any 10 year time frame, that conveniently was reduced to 9 years when haie recalled that Oregon beat the shit out of them in 2013 in Seattle wearing non-traditional uniforms.

    Oregon waltzed into Seattle and shoved the ball down their throats in 2007 wearing all white uniforms but that doesn't fit haie's head up the ass theory so it doesn't count. Same with 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2013.

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,607

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
    Whew. Good thing this isn't a science experiment.

    I do however think that the science is settled on this topic.
    Right, it’s just more nonsense out of the UW camp because Oregon has terrorized your entire adult life.

    Which is what we’ve been saying the whole time.
    This only became a rivalry because Oregon who was prison raped for 100+ years on the field lucked into a pro sports owner that bought their football team instead of Stanford's, and then decided that some random game in 1994 meant that they were now Washington.

    Which we both know they will never be in any aspect. Not just football.

    I'm told that is being "innovative" though.
    Jesus Christ. I hope we’re not Washington.

    #listofgrievances
    Yeah, who would want that? I never wanted to be Washington, I just wanted to beat them, and we did, a lot. And now we're the national brand and Washington is a nice little regional try hard. Congratulations to UW, the little engine that could.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,804 Founders Club
    Could close a natty

    3 times
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,607
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    It can't have a time frame?

    This idiot went it UW? For stem?
    Why won't anyone answer my fucking question ⁉️⁉️

    Kunt Act!!!!
    One of the first things you do in any research is look at consistent behavior over a long period of time. It’s the basis for any scientific experiment.

    I think the scientific word for what you’re doing is called cherry picking.

    You wouldn’t even get into Oregon with this thesis.
    Whew. Good thing this isn't a science experiment.

    I do however think that the science is settled on this topic.
    Right, it’s just more nonsense out of the UW camp because Oregon has terrorized your entire adult life.

    Which is what we’ve been saying the whole time.
    This only became a rivalry because Oregon who was prison raped for 100+ years on the field lucked into a pro sports owner that bought their football team instead of Stanford's, and then decided that some random game in 1994 meant that they were now Washington.

    Which we both know they will never be in any aspect. Not just football.

    I'm told that is being "innovative" though.
    You appear to copy it... a lot. "Traditional" colors.


  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,283

    Could close a natty

    3 times

    Uh huh.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    That’s where I disagree with the original conspiracy on some of it’s data input.

    There’s always been a big possibility of losing to the biggest brand in the conference. We’ve never taken any chances.

    Or it’s that Oregon has been doing this against every team in the conference for 20 years and UW has just happened to start to win every once in a while rendering the entire UW fan base into simp puddles. No pun intended.

    And his name is The Duck.
    As you probably noticed haie only started putting qualifiers on the conspiracy theory after he had already put his head up his ass. His initial head up the ass claim had no limit to only when Oregon plays Washington nor was there any 10 year time frame, that conveniently was reduced to 9 years when haie recalled that Oregon beat the shit out of them in 2013 in Seattle wearing non-traditional uniforms.

    Oregon waltzed into Seattle and shoved the ball down their throats in 2007 wearing all white uniforms but that doesn't fit haie's head up the ass theory so it doesn't count. Same with 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2013.

    Nope, it was clearly outlined and then you proceeded to lose your shit.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,149 Founders Club

    Even though I made some negative comments in another thread about this place, I'd be sad if the Duck Refuge was shut down. It's my go-to for all hawt uniform talk.

    I used to really resent it, but it's been fun over the last year. Blob is clearly losing it. Good entertainment. It's too bad Damone was banned. He was really destroying this place.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,607
    edited November 2023
    haie said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    haie said:

    We?re playing against Arizona that game you fucking idiot 🤣

    So the "theory" only applies when Oregon and Washington are playing each other and only during the last 9 years? Why? If wearing all whites is "data" that shows a team is embarrassed about the possibility of losing that game why wouldn't that apply to all games? And why does it only cover the last 9 years? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Oregon has regularly been wearing non-traditional uniforms for nearly 20 years during a time when there wasn't a chance in hell they were going to lose to UW would it haie?
    Here’s another data point where Oregon wore a black uniform because they thought they were going to lose to UW in 2009:

    Falls outside of the time frame haie created for his "theory." Weird how his theory doesn't cover any year when there wasn't a chance in hell that Washington was going to be within even two scores of Oregon.
    That’s where I disagree with the original conspiracy on some of it’s data input.

    There’s always been a big possibility of losing to the biggest brand in the conference. We’ve never taken any chances.

    Or it’s that Oregon has been doing this against every team in the conference for 20 years and UW has just happened to start to win every once in a while rendering the entire UW fan base into simp puddles. No pun intended.

    And his name is The Duck.
    As you probably noticed haie only started putting qualifiers on the conspiracy theory after he had already put his head up his ass. His initial head up the ass claim had no limit to only when Oregon plays Washington nor was there any 10 year time frame, that conveniently was reduced to 9 years when haie recalled that Oregon beat the shit out of them in 2013 in Seattle wearing non-traditional uniforms.

    Oregon waltzed into Seattle and shoved the ball down their throats in 2007 wearing all white uniforms but that doesn't fit haie's head up the ass theory so it doesn't count. Same with 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2013.

    Nope, it was clearly outlined and then you proceeded to lose your shit.
    Lie.

    Anyone see a time limit or only when we play Washington anywhere in this head up the ass gibberish?


    Oregon wore white bird shit with chrome helmets just in case they got embarrassed and created a huge program defining moment.

    Completely intentional and that's what happened. Now you just see Odunze standing over some player with a random white uniform.

    But boblet still thinks we?re the "little bros". Fucking retard.

    They wore their actual school colors when they were at home against Wazzu. :D

    The jokes just write themselves at this point.


    Why are you such a lying piece of shit haie?
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