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Does any Pac-12 team make the playoff???
Mosster47
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Overall Oregon, UCLA, and Stanford could give anyone in the country a go. ASU, UW, USC, and OS can and will beat some of those three mentioned before. WAZZU and UA are well coached and will only get better. Utah will win at least one game they shouldn't. Cal and Colorado can't really be any worse.
The SEC gets extra credit for a scenario like this. The PAC-12 is called weak because of this.
It's very possible the conference champion could have two losses, especially with Oregon playing Sparty and UCLA facing Texas in the OOC. Does a panel with Condi on it give the PAC credit for overall strength? Almost no chance anyone goes unbeaten out west this year.
The SEC gets extra credit for a scenario like this. The PAC-12 is called weak because of this.
It's very possible the conference champion could have two losses, especially with Oregon playing Sparty and UCLA facing Texas in the OOC. Does a panel with Condi on it give the PAC credit for overall strength? Almost no chance anyone goes unbeaten out west this year.
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Overall Oregon, UCLA, and Stanford could give anyone in the country a go.
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It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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The 2010 Ducks played two teams that finished in the top 25: Stanford and Auburn.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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So the three teams that will be ranked in the Top 10 aren't nationally competitive? UW won't be any better than Sark left them this year.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Overall Oregon, UCLA, and Stanford could give anyone in the country a go.
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One of those three teams will shit the bed and the other two will be fringe playoff contenders.Mosster47 said:
So the three teams that will be ranked in the Top 10 aren't nationally competitive? UW won't be any better than Sark left them this year.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Overall Oregon, UCLA, and Stanford could give anyone in the country a go.
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Sorry man, but you can't compare the mediocre PAC 12 teams in the 2010 season to the teams in the ACC, who are always shit, and which the current Cal team could regularly manhandle.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The 2010 Ducks played two teams that finished in the top 25: Stanford and Auburn.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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You still have Cal ranked way too high.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry man, but you can't compare the mediocre PAC 12 teams in the 2010 season to the teams in the ACC, who are always shit, and which the current Cal team could regularly manhandle.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The 2010 Ducks played two teams that finished in the top 25: Stanford and Auburn.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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Colorado and Cal would be the worst two teams in EVERY Big 5 conference.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry man, but you can't compare the mediocre PAC 12 teams in the 2010 season to the teams in the ACC, who are always shit, and which the current Cal team could regularly manhandle.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The 2010 Ducks played two teams that finished in the top 25: Stanford and Auburn.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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A one loss Oregon, Stanford, USC, or UCLA will make the playoff.
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FSU would bare pickle every team in the Pac 12 last year and not leave a number, just an autographed photo of Winston next to their pillows. I'll give you Ohio State, but even if they had beaten MSU last year, who exposed them, wouldn't have made the top 2. Based on the current state of the Big 10, a one loss Pac 12, Big 12, and ACC champ will beat out an undefeated Ohio State. Also, a 2 loss SEC champ and the one loss runner up beats them out as well. The Big 10 is that bad right now. An undefeated Big 10 might not make the top 4 is what I'm saying.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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In other words, there won't be a Pac-12 team in the playoff.greenblood said:A one loss Oregon, Stanford, USC, or UCLA will make the playoff.
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Defending Pac12 champion Notre Dame might have a chance.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
In other words, there won't be a Pac-12 team in the playoff.greenblood said:A one loss Oregon, Stanford, USC, or UCLA will make the playoff.
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dnc said:
Defending Pac12 South champion Notre Dame might have a chance.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
In other words, there won't be a Pac-12 team in the playoff.greenblood said:A one loss Oregon, Stanford, USC, or UCLA will make the playoff.
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I LOL'd for real when I included USC as a possible one loss team. You could give Sark the Seahawks and he'd find two PAC 12 losses on the schedule.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
In other words, there won't be a Pac-12 team in the playoff.greenblood said:A one loss Oregon, Stanford, USC, or UCLA will make the playoff.
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Yeah, kind of like they barepickled Auburn and didn't get completely skullfucked in the first half. And needed a lame penalty at the end of the game in order to score an easy touchdown.greenblood said:
FSU would bare pickle every team in the Pac 12 last year and not leave a number, just an autographed photo of Winston next to their pillows. I'll give you Ohio State, but even if they had beaten MSU last year, who exposed them, wouldn't have made the top 2. Based on the current state of the Big 10, a one loss Pac 12, Big 12, and ACC champ will beat out an undefeated Ohio State. Also, a 2 loss SEC champ and the one loss runner up beats them out as well. The Big 10 is that bad right now. An undefeated Big 10 might not make the top 4 is what I'm saying.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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Auburn is in the PAC 12?
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PLSSPOTD*oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yeah, kind of like they barepickled Auburn and didn't get completely skullfucked in the first half. And needed a lame penalty at the end of the game in order to score an easy touchdown.greenblood said:
FSU would bare pickle every team in the Pac 12 last year and not leave a number, just an autographed photo of Winston next to their pillows. I'll give you Ohio State, but even if they had beaten MSU last year, who exposed them, wouldn't have made the top 2. Based on the current state of the Big 10, a one loss Pac 12, Big 12, and ACC champ will beat out an undefeated Ohio State. Also, a 2 loss SEC champ and the one loss runner up beats them out as well. The Big 10 is that bad right now. An undefeated Big 10 might not make the top 4 is what I'm saying.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
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Oregon has a shot. After that, I doubt it. UCLA, Stanford, and UW are all losing 2+ games.
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The Pac-12 was hot garbage in 2010, actually for most of the Chip Kelly era, and thankfully Chip took the talent that Bellotti helped recruit to a BCS title game.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The 2010 Ducks played two teams that finished in the top 25: Stanford and Auburn.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
Hope this helps.
USC was decimated by the NCAA, Stanford wasn't quite ready in 2010 or 2011, and coaches in the league included Paul Wulff/Rick Neuheisal/Lane Kiffin/Mike Stoops/Dennis Erickson/Steve Sarkisian/Jeff Tedford. Out of that group, only Sark is a head coach at a school that matters. The rest of these guys were fired, not hired away to better jobs. Those coaches have been replaced by Mike Leach/Jim Mora Jr./Steve Sarkisian/Rich Rodriguez/Todd Graham/Chris Petersen/Sonny Dykes, respectively.
The Pac 12 is a lot more difficult than 4 years ago, and is only going to get better now that pretty much every program is investing money in facilities and upgrading their coaching (USC aside, perhaps).
As I said, the Duck fans on this board come across as entitled assholes who don't know how good we had it as fans during the Kelly era, and also how the conditions were ripe for a great coach (Kelly) to take OK talent to a title game. Kelly didn't exactly set the world on fire in terms of recruiting, and he also landed the Ducks on NCAA probation, which Helfrich and his staff have to tell every single PSA they recruit.
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PDXDuckFan said:
The Pac-12 was hot garbage in 2010, actually for most of the Chip Kelly era, and thankfully Chip took the talent that Bellotti helped recruit to a BCS title game.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The 2010 Ducks played two teams that finished in the top 25: Stanford and Auburn.oregonblitzkrieg said:It's hard to say when you've got shitbag programs like FSU and Ohio State who play nobodies all season long strolling into season's end with no losses.
Hope this helps.
USC was decimated by the NCAA, Stanford wasn't quite ready in 2010 or 2011, and coaches in the league included Paul Wulff/Rick Neuheisal/Lane Kiffin/Mike Stoops/Dennis Erickson/Steve Sarkisian/Jeff Tedford. Out of that group, only Sark is a head coach at a school that matters. The rest of these guys were fired, not hired away to better jobs. Those coaches have been replaced by Mike Leach/Jim Mora Jr./Steve Sarkisian/Rich Rodriguez/Todd Graham/Chris Petersen/Sonny Dykes, respectively.
The Pac 12 is a lot more difficult than 4 years ago, and is only going to get better now that pretty much every program is investing money in facilities and upgrading their coaching (USC aside, perhaps).
As I said, the Duck fans on this board come across as entitled assholes who don't know how good we had it as fans during the Kelly era, and also how the conditions were ripe for a great coach (Kelly) to take OK talent to a title game. Kelly didn't exactly set the world on fire in terms of recruiting, and he also landed the Ducks on NCAA probation, which Helfrich and his staff have to tell every single PSA they recruit.
Holy fuck. Are you trying to downplay what Chip Kelly did? You are the original Quook, but holy fuck!
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Clearly @PDXDuckFan is just a Beav/Doog troll just trying to make Duck fans look bad.
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Even money it's HarvTierbsHsotBoobs said:Clearly @PDXDuckFan is just a Beav/Doog troll just trying to make Duck fans look bad.
2:1 it's CougLJ
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Look bro, three conference titles and four BCS bowls in four years is not that big of a deal because Chip was better than the other coaches. It's only impressive if everyone is equal!!!
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It wouldn't be that far out of reach to pin this on HNMT. He can't show his face publicly after he bitched out so he's probably operating undercover as a troll.Bad_MotherDucker said:
Even money it's HarvTierbsHsotBoobs said:Clearly @PDXDuckFan is just a Beav/Doog troll just trying to make Duck fans look bad.
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I said a great coach (CHIP KELLY) was able to take OK to good talent to incredible heights. Are you denying that the Pac 12 was worse than it is going into this season? Look at the slugs who all got fired within the last two seasons, and now look at those programs just a few years later.Mosster47 said:Look bro, three conference titles and four BCS bowls in four years is not that big of a deal because Chip was better than the other coaches. It's only impressive if everyone is equal!!!
As usual, you completely missed the point of what I posted, and instead had another round pound with the other giggling morons here. I'm thrilled that the Ducks went to 4 BCS bowls in a row, but that doesn't mean I can't be realistic and say that the Pac 12 wasn't exactly at its apex top-to-bottom during that run. -
Also, true or false, Mosster47. Did Chip Kelly land the Ducks on NCAA probation, and also have the NCAA cloud over the program for almost 2 seasons? He's an incredible football coach, but the Entitled Assholes think the guy walked on water.
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the conditions were ripe for a great coach (Kelly) to take OK talent to a title game
Scout.kom recruiting rankings from 2005-2009:
2005: 30
2006: 52
2007: 9
2008: 23
2009: 26
Generally, Bellotti recruited in the top 25-30 nationally. That's better than "okay" talent. I also see three top 25 classes and one top 10 class in there.
This is also why we have expectations for Helfrich:
2010: 13
2011: 13
2012: 15
2013: 17
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End of the month is what I am hearing.PDXDuckFan said:Also, true or false, Mosster47. Did Chip Kelly land the Ducks on NCAA probation, and also have the NCAA cloud over the program for almost 2 seasons? He's an incredible football coach, but the Entitled Assholes think the guy walked on water.
