Today's TBS News ...
I'm seeing on Twitter that it's getting interesting ...
I'm feeling confident in predicting that there will be many doogs that will claim that this is further evidence that Petersen can't recruit.
Now, I personally don't care because we have 4-star after 4-star of QBs on our roster and I'm confident in saying that we'll continue to sign high quality QBs with Petersen in charge.
However, one thing I do have to say, and this isn't a WDWHA complaint, but any QB that wants to lead a team that likes to call himself "Skinny" I personally don't think has the chops to be the QB of my team.
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Who? (For people that don't stalk teen boiz)
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Yeah, we don't want a 5 star QB with offers from everyone because his nickname is Skinny. Solid reasoning there.
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Tony Eason's kid?
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Does he have southern roots? A PNW kid going to Georgia...would be quite the culture shock.
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If the lemon party trio have a problem with Petersen then why aren't they going all unleashed on Woody for the shitty hire?
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And how has 5-star in-state QBs worked out lately?
My personal opinion, but give me a QB from California more often than not b/c HS football in this state is really not that advanced when it comes to the passing game. -
These top in state prospects should be going to UW. Petersen deserves criticism for this assuming they do indeed sign their LOIs with different schools.
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I'm sure I'll take a hit for this, but I'm less concerned about in-state recruiting than most. I do care about getting the best class possible. In-state kids are generally easier to get than out of state kids. But it's not a given.
We complained about Sark's OL recruiting and notably called out his OL recruiting in-state. The reason we called out the in-state recruiting was because he didn't remedy it with his out of state recruiting. Petersen has "missed" on Throckmorton and Lemeiux ... the question is still in the end whether or not he recruits a solid OL class or not. -
If you can give me some facts, I might change my mind. Nice sample size of one about how 5 star QB's from the state have worked out. Just like how all Bellevue guys are overrated because Hasty washed out at UW.Tequilla said:And how has 5-star in-state QBs worked out lately?
My personal opinion, but give me a QB from California more often than not b/c HS football in this state is really not that advanced when it comes to the passing game.
Water is wet, high school football in Cali is typically better than Washington. You are painting with a broad brush though. Other than Price and Brunell what QB's has UW had from Cali that did anything? Our next QB is from Colorado.
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We already landed a QB for this class. Looks like he has an offer from Alabama, too.
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To me, right now, Petersen's only miss was with Throckmorton. Lemeiux, he didn't offer. And for Eason, Petersen offered only after everyone else did. Every other team in the country offered him before Petersen did and that's after Eason attended a dozen practices. Maybe Lemeiux and Eason aren't OKGs? Or maybe they have someone else above them both on their recruiting boards that they're going after. After all, we still have a decent shot at Roberts, Milo and Empey for OL and we have 5 QBs already with Browning for 2015. I'd panic if these were areas of desperate need but they aren't.Tequilla said:I'm sure I'll take a hit for this, but I'm less concerned about in-state recruiting than most. I do care about getting the best class possible. In-state kids are generally easier to get than out of state kids. But it's not a given.
We complained about Sark's OL recruiting and notably called out his OL recruiting in-state. The reason we called out the in-state recruiting was because he didn't remedy it with his out of state recruiting. Petersen has "missed" on Throckmorton and Lemeiux ... the question is still in the end whether or not he recruits a solid OL class or not. -
I'm hearing that Browning is an OKG, unless you're going with the dogmen on that.PurpleJ said:We already landed a QB for this class. Looks like he has an offer from Alabama, too.
Lake Stevens? Not so much. North Georgia is mainly suburban/urban anyways.Gladstone said:Does he have southern roots? A PNW kid going to Georgia...would be quite the culture shock.
The real question is where Warshington and Georgia fit in the hierarchy of d1 programs. UGA is trending down, Washington is trending up.
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That's okay. I'm hearing that Alabama is overrated, so that offer really isn't very impressive.doogsinparadise said:
I'm hearing that Browning is an OKG, unless you're going with the dogmen on that.PurpleJ said:We already landed a QB for this class. Looks like he has an offer from Alabama, too.
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That was more for Roaddawg, Ich bin einverstanden.PurpleJ said:
That's okay. I'm hearing that Alabama is overrated, so that offer really isn't very impressive.doogsinparadise said:
I'm hearing that Browning is an OKG, unless you're going with the dogmen on that.PurpleJ said:We already landed a QB for this class. Looks like he has an offer from Alabama, too.
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RoadDawg,
This is my personal opinion and I'm lazy enough that I'm not going to go look up stats for you on this.
If you go back 20-30 year ago time period, HS football was mostly a 3 yard and a cloud of dust offense. Most teams in the state of Washington today don't throw the football THAT much ... although it's increasing. In contrast, when you watch games out of California, Texas, Florida, etc. you are finding more and more HS teams running what is essentially a college offense.
The names you named off (excluding Locker) were really HS QBs going back to the days before HS QBs across the board were throwing all over the place. And, in each of those cases, including Locker, all of those guys were NFL QBs.
Since Tui, what QBs other than Locker have come out of the State of Washington that have been worth a damn other than Kellen Moore that nobody in this conference thought was good enough to play there? Heaps has been an absolute bust. Jury is still out on Browne. Lindquist probably will never play a meaningful snap for the UW. Stanback was so-so.
Bottom line is that I'm just not concerned about it. Does the kid have talent? Probably. But as someone that grew up in the WesCo conference, the quality of play in that league is just not that great. There's going to be a massive talent jump that he'll have between High School and College. If it's me, I'd rather have the kid that has been playing in a high level California league that has already been playing against PAC level players on a week in and week out basis. -
Teq, you can make that case for any player from WA vs California. Your post is basically a fancy way of saying California has better high school football than Washington. If Sark didn't get Sankey to switch from WSU, the narrative from many would be it doesn't matter because we already had the better players from Cali, Cooper and Callier. Many linemen from California played in more advanced offenses against better competition than Josh Garnett, who played for a .500 Puyallup team.
Since Locker, there hasn't been any QB's worthy of playing for UW. Once again, you seem stuck on the fact that California has better high school football. The only in state QB's since then with offers that went elsewhere were Heaps and Browne. Considering that information, Eason must be pretty fucking good to have offers from everyone before his junior year, including from UW. Florida State, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Michigan. That's a hell of a list. He's an elite recruit who will be either a 5 star or very high 4 star. Quit fooling yourself with the other bullshit. If he committed to UW, I guarantee you'd be singing a different tune. -
DIAFFRoadDawg55 said:
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Kellen Moore laughs at youTequilla said:And how has 5-star in-state QBs worked out lately?
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That's BS RD ...
I do think that there's anywhere from 6-12 players in this state that in any given year are PAC caliber players. From an athletic standpoint, these kids are the equivalent of anybody. Guys like Kasen, ASJ, Budda, Sankey, Jonathan Stewart, etc have definitely proven that from an athletic sense, this state holds their own.
The last good QB to be developed in the State of Washington and perform at a high level in the PAC was Jake Locker (and we all like to debate how good he actually was). Before that it was Tui. Both of those guys were athletic freaks that developed from running systems in HS into being good/great college QBs. You could talk about and include Kellen Moore if you wanted to. But with Tui you are going back 15-20 years now. At best, you're looking at 3 QBs during that time period.
Bottom line is that this state has really struggled to produce high caliber QB talent. I do think that it's starting to get a bit better. However, it lags the rest of the positions in the state. It isn't helping that the most recent highly rated QBs have fallen on their face (Heaps) or haven't made their way through the depth chart (Browne).
Yes, this kid is highly rated. I haven't seen him play so I have no idea how good he is or not. I trust that we'll end up with a good QB in this class with or without him.
At the end of the day, no position is more closely tied to what a coach is specifically looking for and how a player fits the system that he wants to run than the QB position. There have been many talented guys fall on their face and a number of guys that seem pedestrian turn into great college QBs.
I'm not going to get pumped up if we got this kid and I'm not going to get down if we don't. I trust that Pete is going to get a good class and whether that means that the TBS stalkers consider it a "good" class or not I don't really give a shit about. -
Dear roaddawg and tequilla,
I can't understand what you guys are arguing about. Is it about WA vs CA talent, or whether Eason is a WDWHA situaish?
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Dardanus,
RD thinks I'm WDWHA and saying CA > WA.
I'm not worried about our QB recruiting 18 months from the 2016 signing day and given the choice between WA or CA QBs right now, I'd error on taking the CA QB. -
I've been on board with Peterman before he was hired. Ease up on slurping everything he does before he's coached one game. You said wdwha with Thockmorton when he went to Oregon and said it was a good thing Oregon was only getting 3 star OL. Now, Eason is another wdwha. Go back to doogman with that shit. For the record, I'm not concerned about recruiting, but wdwha about two guys that Peterman offered is FS and something I would expect from Section14A to post. How much he really wanted them is something we don't know, but they had offers.Tequilla said:That's BS RD ...
I do think that there's anywhere from 6-12 players in this state that in any given year are PAC caliber players. From an athletic standpoint, these kids are the equivalent of anybody. Guys like Kasen, ASJ, Budda, Sankey, Jonathan Stewart, etc have definitely proven that from an athletic sense, this state holds their own.
The last good QB to be developed in the State of Washington and perform at a high level in the PAC was Jake Locker (and we all like to debate how good he actually was). Before that it was Tui. Both of those guys were athletic freaks that developed from running systems in HS into being good/great college QBs. You could talk about and include Kellen Moore if you wanted to. But with Tui you are going back 15-20 years now. At best, you're looking at 3 QBs during that time period.
Bottom line is that this state has really struggled to produce high caliber QB talent. I do think that it's starting to get a bit better. However, it lags the rest of the positions in the state. It isn't helping that the most recent highly rated QBs have fallen on their face (Heaps) or haven't made their way through the depth chart (Browne).
Yes, this kid is highly rated. I haven't seen him play so I have no idea how good he is or not. I trust that we'll end up with a good QB in this class with or without him.
At the end of the day, no position is more closely tied to what a coach is specifically looking for and how a player fits the system that he wants to run than the QB position. There have been many talented guys fall on their face and a number of guys that seem pedestrian turn into great college QBs.
I'm not going to get pumped up if we got this kid and I'm not going to get down if we don't. I trust that Pete is going to get a good class and whether that means that the TBS stalkers consider it a "good" class or not I don't really give a shit about.
What is your point about QB's from Washington? Yeah, many haven't been good lately, but it's still painting with a broad brush. There are plenty of QB's from California that are busts too. What RB besides Sankey and Stewart (and if you want to count Jack) has been good from Washington? Any DE's? Any CB's besides Trufant and maybe the kid who went to Notre Dame? The QB talent the past 15 years seems on par to those other positions.
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Here's some more info for you Teq. The QB's off the 4 best teams in the Pac 12 last year. Mariota (Hawaii), Hogan (Washington DC), Hundley (Arizona), Kelly (Idaho). None of them from California. The same arguments you make about Washington QB's can easily be made about Hawaii and Idaho QB's (not sure about Az or DC). But let's keep pretending the QB's from California are so superior.
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The "unofficial" scouting report that I had received on Throckmorton was that he looked more like a basketball player than a football player ... he had good feet and all that but wasn't as big/tall as one would expect. My comment regarding Oregon getting guys like Throckmorton was that you could make a very good argument that we've struggled to out recruit Oregon for OL recently. If Oregon's filling up their class on OL prospects that we either didn't want (Lemieux) or had questionable interest on (Throckmorton), that's a good thing for UW in my eyes as that gives us a better chance to get a player or two that we may not have gotten previously.
I'm not playing the WDWHA card and I'm not playing that I believe in everything Petersen is doing either. He took a class that was nothing last year when he took the job and put together what in my mind was a strong transition class. From a recruiting stand point, he hasn't done a single thing as of yet that makes me question whether or not he will end up with a good class. I'm definitely not going to get worried about losing what would amount to a 2nd TE in this class or a QB in the class of 2016 at this point. I would like to think that my track record would say that if Petersen's class ends up below expectations, I'll call him out for that.
Regarding the players in the state of Washington, there's going to be busts. My point being though that the guys that you'd think were going to be good, turned out to be pretty good:
2007: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2007_Washington.html
Top prospect in the state was Iczbicki who turned into a bust. Next 3 were QBs that never panned out. #5 was Kellen Moore. Iweka I don't think ever qualified anywhere. Paulson if I recall right was decent for Oregon. McDowell was undersized but was at least a rotation player in the secondary. Nate Williams at #10 probably was the 2nd best in-state player in that class. A terrible in class year where nobody was really viewed that highly and Izbicki was the only 4-star in the class.
2008: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2008_Washington.html
Top prospect was Middleton who had the physical tools but lacked the mental ones. Everette Thompson was a rotational player that was probably misused in college. Wouldn't call him a bust but you could argue that more was expected. Ta'amu was solid. Kearse was one of the best WRs in the history of the UW. Senio Kelemente was turned into a NFL player once switched to the OL. DeCastro turned into a 1st round NFL pick. Cody Bruns was a bit of a tweener - probably better suited to play at a high mid-major level than in the PAC. Guyton was a NFL draft pick and starter at Cal. Schaefer was a blah player but had his moments. Nick Cody started at Oregon for a couple of years. Bronson was obviously a bust. Justin Glenn was probably underrated as a player. Very strong in-state year.
2009: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2009_fb_west_150.html
Top in-state player was Gino Simone who wasn't viewed as being a major PAC contributor coming out of HS as he was a bit undersized. The next prospect was Deandre Coleman who was a starter at Cal and is now in the NFL. Next was Kirby Moore who was never viewed as being a PAC player and went to Boise. Travis Long turned into a player for the Cougs. Next ranked was Nolan Washington - don't even remember him with the Cougs. The player that was probably missed the most by the TBS guys was Desmond Trufant who Sark targeted immediately. Trufant ended up living up to the hype he was given as Marcus' younger brother in what was a piss poor in-state class.
2010: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2010_Washington.html
Heaps has been beaten to death as a bust. Sione Potoae was a tweener that never turned into more than a rotational player. Colin Porter would have been a player if not for a medical retirement. Aaron Dunn left WSU to play hoops at Western. Chris Young had to go the JuCo route and is a player at Arizona St as we all expected him to be. Rest of the class was full of tweeners (Jamaal Kearse) and unspectacular players ... Ben Riva was undervalued by the TBS system and has turned into a nice PAC player.
4 years isn't a lot of data, but generally speaking, most of the players that we expected to be good players turned into good players out of this state. The biggest busts being Izbicki, Middleton (mental headcase), and Heaps. But most OL and skill position players ended up living up to the hype.
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You are really generous if you're calling McDowell a rotation player. Guy should have never been on a Pac-12 football field.Tequilla said:The "unofficial" scouting report that I had received on Throckmorton was that he looked more like a basketball player than a football player ... he had good feet and all that but wasn't as big/tall as one would expect. My comment regarding Oregon getting guys like Throckmorton was that you could make a very good argument that we've struggled to out recruit Oregon for OL recently. If Oregon's filling up their class on OL prospects that we either didn't want (Lemieux) or had questionable interest on (Throckmorton), that's a good thing for UW in my eyes as that gives us a better chance to get a player or two that we may not have gotten previously.
I'm not playing the WDWHA card and I'm not playing that I believe in everything Petersen is doing either. He took a class that was nothing last year when he took the job and put together what in my mind was a strong transition class. From a recruiting stand point, he hasn't done a single thing as of yet that makes me question whether or not he will end up with a good class. I'm definitely not going to get worried about losing what would amount to a 2nd TE in this class or a QB in the class of 2016 at this point. I would like to think that my track record would say that if Petersen's class ends up below expectations, I'll call him out for that.
Regarding the players in the state of Washington, there's going to be busts. My point being though that the guys that you'd think were going to be good, turned out to be pretty good:
2007: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2007_Washington.html
Top prospect in the state was Iczbicki who turned into a bust. Next 3 were QBs that never panned out. #5 was Kellen Moore. Iweka I don't think ever qualified anywhere. Paulson if I recall right was decent for Oregon. McDowell was undersized but was at least a rotation player in the secondary. Nate Williams at #10 probably was the 2nd best in-state player in that class. A terrible in class year where nobody was really viewed that highly and Izbicki was the only 4-star in the class.
2008: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2008_Washington.html
Top prospect was Middleton who had the physical tools but lacked the mental ones. Everette Thompson was a rotational player that was probably misused in college. Wouldn't call him a bust but you could argue that more was expected. Ta'amu was solid. Kearse was one of the best WRs in the history of the UW. Senio Kelemente was turned into a NFL player once switched to the OL. DeCastro turned into a 1st round NFL pick. Cody Bruns was a bit of a tweener - probably better suited to play at a high mid-major level than in the PAC. Guyton was a NFL draft pick and starter at Cal. Schaefer was a blah player but had his moments. Nick Cody started at Oregon for a couple of years. Bronson was obviously a bust. Justin Glenn was probably underrated as a player. Very strong in-state year.
2009: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2009_fb_west_150.html
Top in-state player was Gino Simone who wasn't viewed as being a major PAC contributor coming out of HS as he was a bit undersized. The next prospect was Deandre Coleman who was a starter at Cal and is now in the NFL. Next was Kirby Moore who was never viewed as being a PAC player and went to Boise. Travis Long turned into a player for the Cougs. Next ranked was Nolan Washington - don't even remember him with the Cougs. The player that was probably missed the most by the TBS guys was Desmond Trufant who Sark targeted immediately. Trufant ended up living up to the hype he was given as Marcus' younger brother in what was a piss poor in-state class.
2010: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2010_Washington.html
Heaps has been beaten to death as a bust. Sione Potoae was a tweener that never turned into more than a rotational player. Colin Porter would have been a player if not for a medical retirement. Aaron Dunn left WSU to play hoops at Western. Chris Young had to go the JuCo route and is a player at Arizona St as we all expected him to be. Rest of the class was full of tweeners (Jamaal Kearse) and unspectacular players ... Ben Riva was undervalued by the TBS system and has turned into a nice PAC player.
4 years isn't a lot of data, but generally speaking, most of the players that we expected to be good players turned into good players out of this state. The biggest busts being Izbicki, Middleton (mental headcase), and Heaps. But most OL and skill position players ended up living up to the hype. -
Peterman. Can't. Close. (at this level)
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Very generous to not label Potaoe a huge bust. #4 DT, 2 spots away from being a 5 star. He's a bigger bust than Middleton. We got more out of Middleton his sophomore year than Potaoe in 4 years. Calling him a rotational player is a compliment.
Tequilla, your post has very little to do with the argument. You want your narrative to be true, but it's been shredded at every turn. Jake Heaps being a bust has nothing to do with Eason. If you can't or don't want to understand that, I can't help you.Tequilla said:The "unofficial" scouting report that I had received on Throckmorton was that he looked more like a basketball player than a football player ... he had good feet and all that but wasn't as big/tall as one would expect. My comment regarding Oregon getting guys like Throckmorton was that you could make a very good argument that we've struggled to out recruit Oregon for OL recently. If Oregon's filling up their class on OL prospects that we either didn't want (Lemieux) or had questionable interest on (Throckmorton), that's a good thing for UW in my eyes as that gives us a better chance to get a player or two that we may not have gotten previously.
I'm not playing the WDWHA card and I'm not playing that I believe in everything Petersen is doing either. He took a class that was nothing last year when he took the job and put together what in my mind was a strong transition class. From a recruiting stand point, he hasn't done a single thing as of yet that makes me question whether or not he will end up with a good class. I'm definitely not going to get worried about losing what would amount to a 2nd TE in this class or a QB in the class of 2016 at this point. I would like to think that my track record would say that if Petersen's class ends up below expectations, I'll call him out for that.
Regarding the players in the state of Washington, there's going to be busts. My point being though that the guys that you'd think were going to be good, turned out to be pretty good:
2007: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2007_Washington.html
Top prospect in the state was Iczbicki who turned into a bust. Next 3 were QBs that never panned out. #5 was Kellen Moore. Iweka I don't think ever qualified anywhere. Paulson if I recall right was decent for Oregon. McDowell was undersized but was at least a rotation player in the secondary. Nate Williams at #10 probably was the 2nd best in-state player in that class. A terrible in class year where nobody was really viewed that highly and Izbicki was the only 4-star in the class.
2008: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2008_Washington.html
Top prospect was Middleton who had the physical tools but lacked the mental ones. Everette Thompson was a rotational player that was probably misused in college. Wouldn't call him a bust but you could argue that more was expected. Ta'amu was solid. Kearse was one of the best WRs in the history of the UW. Senio Kelemente was turned into a NFL player once switched to the OL. DeCastro turned into a 1st round NFL pick. Cody Bruns was a bit of a tweener - probably better suited to play at a high mid-major level than in the PAC. Guyton was a NFL draft pick and starter at Cal. Schaefer was a blah player but had his moments. Nick Cody started at Oregon for a couple of years. Bronson was obviously a bust. Justin Glenn was probably underrated as a player. Very strong in-state year.
2009: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2009_fb_west_150.html
Top in-state player was Gino Simone who wasn't viewed as being a major PAC contributor coming out of HS as he was a bit undersized. The next prospect was Deandre Coleman who was a starter at Cal and is now in the NFL. Next was Kirby Moore who was never viewed as being a PAC player and went to Boise. Travis Long turned into a player for the Cougs. Next ranked was Nolan Washington - don't even remember him with the Cougs. The player that was probably missed the most by the TBS guys was Desmond Trufant who Sark targeted immediately. Trufant ended up living up to the hype he was given as Marcus' younger brother in what was a piss poor in-state class.
2010: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2010_Washington.html
Heaps has been beaten to death as a bust. Sione Potoae was a tweener that never turned into more than a rotational player. Colin Porter would have been a player if not for a medical retirement. Aaron Dunn left WSU to play hoops at Western. Chris Young had to go the JuCo route and is a player at Arizona St as we all expected him to be. Rest of the class was full of tweeners (Jamaal Kearse) and unspectacular players ... Ben Riva was undervalued by the TBS system and has turned into a nice PAC player.
4 years isn't a lot of data, but generally speaking, most of the players that we expected to be good players turned into good players out of this state. The biggest busts being Izbicki, Middleton (mental headcase), and Heaps. But most OL and skill position players ended up living up to the hype. -
Dardanus said:
Dear roaddawg and tequilla,
I can't understand what you guys are arguing about. Is it about the blicks, as always?
Sincerely, Dardanus -
This is all really interesting, but what does it have to do with Oregon?
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I'm too lazy to look but wasn't Connor holiday the same class as nick Montana? Holiday is not great but twice the player of nick Montana. Holiday came from whatever league they have in Spokane out there vs Montana playing at powerhouse in SoCal.RoadDawg55 said:Very generous to not label Potaoe a huge bust. #4 DT, 2 spots away from being a 5 star. He's a bigger bust than Middleton. We got more out of Middleton his sophomore year than Potaoe in 4 years. Calling him a rotational player is a compliment.
Tequilla, your post has very little to do with the argument. You want your narrative to be true, but it's been shredded at every turn. Jake Heaps being a bust has nothing to do with Eason. If you can't or don't want to understand that, I can't help you.Tequilla said:The "unofficial" scouting report that I had received on Throckmorton was that he looked more like a basketball player than a football player ... he had good feet and all that but wasn't as big/tall as one would expect. My comment regarding Oregon getting guys like Throckmorton was that you could make a very good argument that we've struggled to out recruit Oregon for OL recently. If Oregon's filling up their class on OL prospects that we either didn't want (Lemieux) or had questionable interest on (Throckmorton), that's a good thing for UW in my eyes as that gives us a better chance to get a player or two that we may not have gotten previously.
I'm not playing the WDWHA card and I'm not playing that I believe in everything Petersen is doing either. He took a class that was nothing last year when he took the job and put together what in my mind was a strong transition class. From a recruiting stand point, he hasn't done a single thing as of yet that makes me question whether or not he will end up with a good class. I'm definitely not going to get worried about losing what would amount to a 2nd TE in this class or a QB in the class of 2016 at this point. I would like to think that my track record would say that if Petersen's class ends up below expectations, I'll call him out for that.
Regarding the players in the state of Washington, there's going to be busts. My point being though that the guys that you'd think were going to be good, turned out to be pretty good:
2007: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2007_Washington.html
Top prospect in the state was Iczbicki who turned into a bust. Next 3 were QBs that never panned out. #5 was Kellen Moore. Iweka I don't think ever qualified anywhere. Paulson if I recall right was decent for Oregon. McDowell was undersized but was at least a rotation player in the secondary. Nate Williams at #10 probably was the 2nd best in-state player in that class. A terrible in class year where nobody was really viewed that highly and Izbicki was the only 4-star in the class.
2008: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2008_Washington.html
Top prospect was Middleton who had the physical tools but lacked the mental ones. Everette Thompson was a rotational player that was probably misused in college. Wouldn't call him a bust but you could argue that more was expected. Ta'amu was solid. Kearse was one of the best WRs in the history of the UW. Senio Kelemente was turned into a NFL player once switched to the OL. DeCastro turned into a 1st round NFL pick. Cody Bruns was a bit of a tweener - probably better suited to play at a high mid-major level than in the PAC. Guyton was a NFL draft pick and starter at Cal. Schaefer was a blah player but had his moments. Nick Cody started at Oregon for a couple of years. Bronson was obviously a bust. Justin Glenn was probably underrated as a player. Very strong in-state year.
2009: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2009_fb_west_150.html
Top in-state player was Gino Simone who wasn't viewed as being a major PAC contributor coming out of HS as he was a bit undersized. The next prospect was Deandre Coleman who was a starter at Cal and is now in the NFL. Next was Kirby Moore who was never viewed as being a PAC player and went to Boise. Travis Long turned into a player for the Cougs. Next ranked was Nolan Washington - don't even remember him with the Cougs. The player that was probably missed the most by the TBS guys was Desmond Trufant who Sark targeted immediately. Trufant ended up living up to the hype he was given as Marcus' younger brother in what was a piss poor in-state class.
2010: http://recruiting.scout.com/3/2010_Washington.html
Heaps has been beaten to death as a bust. Sione Potoae was a tweener that never turned into more than a rotational player. Colin Porter would have been a player if not for a medical retirement. Aaron Dunn left WSU to play hoops at Western. Chris Young had to go the JuCo route and is a player at Arizona St as we all expected him to be. Rest of the class was full of tweeners (Jamaal Kearse) and unspectacular players ... Ben Riva was undervalued by the TBS system and has turned into a nice PAC player.
4 years isn't a lot of data, but generally speaking, most of the players that we expected to be good players turned into good players out of this state. The biggest busts being Izbicki, Middleton (mental headcase), and Heaps. But most OL and skill position players ended up living up to the hype.
There are busts everywhere. There is no trend of wa kids failing at the qb position.
