Leveling Down Update

FireCohen · September 2023

Southerndawg said:

FireCohen said:
penis is a 6 star QB....last generational QB was Tui
The portal has completely changed the game. Saban hates the portal for exactly this reason. I remember a time before scholarship limits when schools like Alabama would use excess scholarships to take kids off the street, basically cut out the competition. Can't do anything remotely close to that now. Now, a school like UW can instantly grow a 6 star Penis. Good times I say.

Edit: By the way, the best player to ever play at UW, IMHO, was Stan Empterman. That guy was a fucking beast and a number one overall NFL draft pick. As a D Lineman. And as we all know, he was a three star recruit!!!!111111!!! Stars matter to some degree, fuck you up kick ass on the field eye test play matters more.

2 star

CFetters_Nacho_Lover · September 2023

JoeEDangerously said:

WoolleyDoog said:

DoogmanRefund said:

YellowSnow said:

DoogmanRefund said:

YellowSnow said:

PineapplePirate said:
I used to think I understood recruiting and star rankings but I just don’t. I’ve given up.
I can't tell the difference between 3 and 4 stars anymore.

And I assume any 5 star we get (from WA state) will probably suck.
Was Reggie Williams the last 5 star who went to UW and actually played like one?
Shaq was and generally played like one. I think Reggie was.
Shaq played like one. Good call. Those teams were mostly forgettable. Could have used him during the Manu/Wellington era.
Shaq and Reggie are the only clearcut 5-5 guys signed by UW. Was ASJ a 5 star in the end? If so I think he can be added.

Instate during recruiting rankings I feel like a lot haven't panned out or at least underwhelmed:

Heaps - Bust. Original JT Daniels.
Max Browne - Massive bust
Eason - Underwhelmed.
Jonathan Stewart - 5*-5*
Reggie - 5*-5*
Emeka - 5*-5*
Kavario - Bust
ASJ - 5*-5* but still kind of underwhelming
Schilling - 5*-4*
Garnett - 5*-5* I guess but I'll stand by that he was kind of just decent and McCaffrey was making plays and with Stanford's OLine pedigree at the time he slotted into a bunch of accolades then Chipper reached for him like way before anyone else would have.
Sarrell - underwhelmed big time
Taylor Mays - 5*-5*
JTT - Jury is out. Let's see how the next 1-2 years actually go
Sam Huard - Yikes fucking yikes - has there ever been a five star recruit and that high of a five star who ended up in FCS, and that quickly?
Smalls - More yikes - can't crack the two deeps on Colorado's atrocious Line

Locker and Budda should have been 5*-5*s
Not an in state guy but another 5* guy UW landed was Donny Mateaki and he played the equivalent of Cameron Elisaras career which was like a a Damian Turpin career

Still working at UW

Baseman · September 2023

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

JoeEDangerously said:

WoolleyDoog said:

DoogmanRefund said:

YellowSnow said:

DoogmanRefund said:

YellowSnow said:

PineapplePirate said:
I used to think I understood recruiting and star rankings but I just don’t. I’ve given up.
I can't tell the difference between 3 and 4 stars anymore.

And I assume any 5 star we get (from WA state) will probably suck.
Was Reggie Williams the last 5 star who went to UW and actually played like one?
Shaq was and generally played like one. I think Reggie was.
Shaq played like one. Good call. Those teams were mostly forgettable. Could have used him during the Manu/Wellington era.
Shaq and Reggie are the only clearcut 5-5 guys signed by UW. Was ASJ a 5 star in the end? If so I think he can be added.

Instate during recruiting rankings I feel like a lot haven't panned out or at least underwhelmed:

Heaps - Bust. Original JT Daniels.
Max Browne - Massive bust
Eason - Underwhelmed.
Jonathan Stewart - 5*-5*
Reggie - 5*-5*
Emeka - 5*-5*
Kavario - Bust
ASJ - 5*-5* but still kind of underwhelming
Schilling - 5*-4*
Garnett - 5*-5* I guess but I'll stand by that he was kind of just decent and McCaffrey was making plays and with Stanford's OLine pedigree at the time he slotted into a bunch of accolades then Chipper reached for him like way before anyone else would have.
Sarrell - underwhelmed big time
Taylor Mays - 5*-5*
JTT - Jury is out. Let's see how the next 1-2 years actually go
Sam Huard - Yikes fucking yikes - has there ever been a five star recruit and that high of a five star who ended up in FCS, and that quickly?
Smalls - More yikes - can't crack the two deeps on Colorado's atrocious Line

Locker and Budda should have been 5*-5*s
Not an in state guy but another 5* guy UW landed was Donny Mateaki and he played the equivalent of Cameron Elisaras career which was like a a Damian Turpin career
Still working at UW

Hope he's more effective developing than when he played

Kingdome_Urinals · September 2023

I think the 4* ratio argument was a proxy for a team that had a higher probability of having quality contributors, based on evaluations done when kids were 16.

After a year or two in a P5 system those evaluations mean nothing. What percentage of 5* players are below average contributors? If it's even 3 or 4 that's a bad ratio.

A portal evaluation is probably a more accurate and efficient system.

Penix, Polk, Dillon Johnson, Nixon, Muhammad...Pretty good hit rate compared to the 4 and 5 stars of the last 4 cycles IMO.

vadawg · September 2023

No. Fuck, we’re so over the top Doogin on this team it’s nuts.

They’re good. Talent on D isn’t there…not even close. We’ve played dreg.

Wow. Just wow

YellowSnow said:
Looks like we're down to 27 x 4 Stars "In Progress"

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Only Clempson has won the whole thing in the CFP era with less than the magic number or 40 (they had 39 in 2016).

TCU has 17 last year. I don't recall were Oregon was in 2014 but it was low 30's, right?

Can UW be the first to do it with well below 40? We had 21 in 2016 including 4 star QB Jake Browning.

Canadawg · September 2023

vadawg said:
No. Fuck, we’re so over the top Doogin on this team it’s nuts.

They’re good. Talent on D isn’t there…not even close. We’ve played dreg.

Wow. Just wow

YellowSnow said:
Looks like we're down to 27 x 4 Stars "In Progress"

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Only Clempson has won the whole thing in the CFP era with less than the magic number or 40 (they had 39 in 2016).

TCU has 17 last year. I don't recall were Oregon was in 2014 but it was low 30's, right?

Can UW be the first to do it with well below 40? We had 21 in 2016 including 4 star QB Jake Browning.

I have had many concerns about my beloved defence but Jordan Perryman was the injury that kept us? from winning the conference and 13 games last year. This year he wouldn't be in the 2 deeps.

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