Leveling Down Update

YellowSnow

Looks like we're down to 27 x 4 Stars "In Progress"

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Only Clempson has won the whole thing in the CFP era with less than the magic number or 40 (they had 39 in 2016).

TCU has 17 last year. I don't recall were Oregon was in 2014 but it was low 30's, right?

Can UW be the first to do it with well below 40? We had 21 in 2016 including 4 star QB Jake Browning.

DerekJohnson

We have something the 5 star factories don't: Big Penix Energy!

YellowSnow

DerekJohnson said:

We have something the 5 star factories don't: Big Penix Energy!

If we win the Pac 12 and make it the Natty game, it will be the biggest indictment of TBS cult in human history.

chuck

Some of the best players on offense were 4*:

Rosengarten
Fautanu
Odunze
McMillan

I think Penix and Polk were originally 3* recruits out of HS. A lot of the OL were 4* and they all seem to be pretty good. Brailsford was 3*.

The only 4* on the defense I can think of who is a key player is Tuli L. He's surrounded by 4* Pete recruits at DT who haven't really distinguished themselves. Trice and ZTF were 3*. All of the LBs and DBs I can think of, aside from Asa, were 3*.

PineapplePirate

I used to think I understood recruiting and star rankings but I just don’t. I’ve given up.

WoolleyDoog

I think I'm not the only one to concede this year is fine. It's a great mix of development, some breaks, and having legit four stars like Odunze, McMillan, Fautanu, Trice (should have been a 4), Tuli and Rosengarten the Penix who was basically a 5* transfer at key positions.

I'm worried long term though, the portal isn't a great source for more than like one top end guy a cycle and Penix was a rare convergence of a bunch of breaks for UW.

YellowSnow

PineapplePirate said:

I used to think I understood recruiting and star rankings but I just don’t. I’ve given up.

I can't tell the difference between 3 and 4 stars anymore.

And I assume any 5 star we get (from WA state) will probably suck.

RaceBannon

Florida State played 17 transfers, Clemson 0

This is college football

If you get REAL 5 stars out of high school there is a far greater chance you will lose them in the portal. What if UW had a stud 5 star freshman receiver this year - he'd be gone after never seeing the field

I actually do trust DeBoer to do both and do both well. But I think Portal acquisition is more important

chuck

YellowSnow said:

PineapplePirate said:

I used to think I understood recruiting and star rankings but I just don’t. I’ve given up.

I can't tell the difference between 3 and 4 stars anymore.

And I assume any 5 star we get (from WA state) will probably suck.

At most positions, and in most cases, 3* from anywhere in the country > 4* from the west coast (not just Wa). It's harder for great prospects to hide out in the West so you don't get as many underrated, surprise 3*. This staff seems to do a great job of finding and recruiting guys from the Midwest and South and are building some good depth on the DL and D backfield that way.

YellowSnow

RaceBannon said:

Florida State played 17 transfers, Clemson 0

This is college football

If you get REAL 5 stars out of high school there is a far greater chance you will lose them in the portal. What if UW had a stud 5 star freshman receiver this year - he'd be gone after never seeing the field

I actually do trust DeBoer to do both and do both well. But I think Portal acquisition is more important

Fats going out and snagging BPE will likely end up the greatest big dick move in the history of Washington Football.

I still hate NIL and transfer portal unless it helps Washington.

fivehundredmileDAWG

This staff has the portal dialed …

They will recruit to the system and then supplement with high talent in portal that also fits system. Then tilt the system slightly to meet talent if necessary …