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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    This is really in depth analysis. He did miss some throws. He also made some throws nobody else is making. He's already really good. The scary thing is he can be even better. I'd be thrilled if he ends up with the Hawks.

    The arm is potentially great if made more consistent. He makes the hard throws look simple at times, but he also makes the simple throws look hard at times. If the platform the arm is attached to breaks down though, nothing else matters.

    I wouldn't use much draft capital on him because I don't think he's built to withstand contact. He needs to survive enough snaps to become a starting NFL quarterback. I don't think he can.
    This is classic holding the black QB to a massively higher standard than white QBs.

    SAD!
    To say his arm isn't great is an odd comment. It's the best arm of any Husky QB I've ever seen.

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    This is really in depth analysis. He did miss some throws. He also made some throws nobody else is making. He's already really good. The scary thing is he can be even better. I'd be thrilled if he ends up with the Hawks.

    The arm is potentially great if made more consistent. He makes the hard throws look simple at times, but he also makes the simple throws look hard at times. If the platform the arm is attached to breaks down though, nothing else matters.

    I wouldn't use much draft capital on him because I don't think he's built to withstand contact. He needs to survive enough snaps to become a starting NFL quarterback. I don't think he can.
    His arm isn't potentially great, it is great already. The injury aspect is a mild concern.
    We have a different standard for “greatness”. I like the balls put on my wide open chin.
    The peasants are revolting.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    This is really in depth analysis. He did miss some throws. He also made some throws nobody else is making. He's already really good. The scary thing is he can be even better. I'd be thrilled if he ends up with the Hawks.

    The arm is potentially great if made more consistent. He makes the hard throws look simple at times, but he also makes the simple throws look hard at times. If the platform the arm is attached to breaks down though, nothing else matters.

    I wouldn't use much draft capital on him because I don't think he's built to withstand contact. He needs to survive enough snaps to become a starting NFL quarterback. I don't think he can.
    This is classic holding the black QB to a massively higher standard than white QBs.

    SAD!
    To say his arm isn't great is an odd comment. It's the best arm of any Husky QB I've ever seen.

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    This is really in depth analysis. He did miss some throws. He also made some throws nobody else is making. He's already really good. The scary thing is he can be even better. I'd be thrilled if he ends up with the Hawks.

    The arm is potentially great if made more consistent. He makes the hard throws look simple at times, but he also makes the simple throws look hard at times. If the platform the arm is attached to breaks down though, nothing else matters.

    I wouldn't use much draft capital on him because I don't think he's built to withstand contact. He needs to survive enough snaps to become a starting NFL quarterback. I don't think he can.
    His arm isn't potentially great, it is great already. The injury aspect is a mild concern.
    We have a different standard for “greatness”. I like the balls put on my wide open chin.
    The peasants are revolting.
    I'm impressed that your shitty takes go from board to board
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,624 Founders Club
    Low standards for vaccines, high standards for black qb’s.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    This is really in depth analysis. He did miss some throws. He also made some throws nobody else is making. He's already really good. The scary thing is he can be even better. I'd be thrilled if he ends up with the Hawks.

    The arm is potentially great if made more consistent. He makes the hard throws look simple at times, but he also makes the simple throws look hard at times. If the platform the arm is attached to breaks down though, nothing else matters.

    I wouldn't use much draft capital on him because I don't think he's built to withstand contact. He needs to survive enough snaps to become a starting NFL quarterback. I don't think he can.
    This is classic holding the black QB to a massively higher standard than white QBs.

    SAD!
    To say his arm isn't great is an odd comment. It's the best arm of any Husky QB I've ever seen.

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    This is really in depth analysis. He did miss some throws. He also made some throws nobody else is making. He's already really good. The scary thing is he can be even better. I'd be thrilled if he ends up with the Hawks.

    The arm is potentially great if made more consistent. He makes the hard throws look simple at times, but he also makes the simple throws look hard at times. If the platform the arm is attached to breaks down though, nothing else matters.

    I wouldn't use much draft capital on him because I don't think he's built to withstand contact. He needs to survive enough snaps to become a starting NFL quarterback. I don't think he can.
    His arm isn't potentially great, it is great already. The injury aspect is a mild concern.
    We have a different standard for “greatness”. I like the balls put on my wide open chin.
    The peasants are revolting.
    I'm impressed that your shitty takes go from board to board
    That’s called “ambidextrous”.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870
    Bob_C said:

    Low standards for vaccines, high standards for black qb’s.

    So he can’t beat anyone with his legs and now I’m expecting accuracy of him.

    Outrageously demanding!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870
    Good. I like to see a Washington man make some guaranteed money.

    If I had my druthers, he'd get paid that money by the Cardinals, Rams or 49ers.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870

    Gosh he doesn't hit 100% of the lowest percentage throws out there. Sad

    The dink and dunk experts don't hit 70%

    63,62,68,64 - Jake Browning

    Not sure who's ever argued Jake Browning is God's gift to quarterbacking.

    He was a decent college QB. Penix has way more arm talent; Browning was probably less fragile.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    HHusky said:

    Gosh he doesn't hit 100% of the lowest percentage throws out there. Sad

    The dink and dunk experts don't hit 70%

    63,62,68,64 - Jake Browning

    Not sure who's ever argued Jake Browning is God's gift to quarterbacking.

    He was a decent college QB. Penix has way more arm talent; Browning was probably less fragile.
    Fragility doesn't matter until it does. When he plays with DeBoer he is good. If he gets hurt it only matters when he does. For an nfl club it's something to think about for sure. For a college team where is is actively play wgaf?

    Right now he is playing well. They'll need a run game when they have to eventually face a Peterson type defense but he can't control that either.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,141 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    Gosh he doesn't hit 100% of the lowest percentage throws out there. Sad

    The dink and dunk experts don't hit 70%

    63,62,68,64 - Jake Browning

    Not sure who's ever argued Jake Browning is God's gift to quarterbacking.

    He was a decent college QB. Penix has way more arm talent; Browning was probably less fragile.
    Fragility doesn't matter until it does. When he plays with DeBoer he is good. If he gets hurt it only matters when he does. For an nfl club it's something to think about for sure. For a college team where is is actively play wgaf?

    Right now he is playing well. They'll need a run game when they have to eventually face a Peterson type defense but he can't control that either.
    Penix and DeBoer package deal to my Cowboys!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    Is that what it says?

    Penix has a way stronger arm
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Maybe I'm the only one who thought he missed all sorts of throws and looks brittle.

    I'm pulling for him, but if I'm an NFL GM, he's probably gone before I would draft him. I don't buy the hype.

    29/40 is “missed all sorts of throws”.


    Receivers routinely running free with 5 yards of separation.

    35/40 was easily achievable for a Sunday QB.

    And he does look brittle, so there's that. You have to hold your breath if he has any contact with a player or the ground.
    Since Day 1 I've been an enthusiastic Penix supporter, but there is a grain of truth in what Dazzler is saying here
    Said another way, Penix must be maintained erect.
    Underappreciated contribution, imo.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,329

    HHusky said:

    Maybe I'm the only one who thought he missed all sorts of throws and looks brittle.

    I'm pulling for him, but if I'm an NFL GM, he's probably gone before I would draft him. I don't buy the hype.

    29/40 is “missed all sorts of throws”.


    Less than 75 percent completions. Oh the shame
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    Low standards for vaccines, high standards for black qb’s.

    So he can’t beat anyone with his legs and now I’m expecting accuracy of him.

    Outrageously demanding!
    What is your standard for accuracy? 65+ percent last year. Over 70% to start this season. Over 70% on deep balls. I think you are completely wrong here. Please tell me why I am wrong.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    yes, lets shit on the best UW QB we has seen in the last 30 years
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102
    You are incredibly bored or just a dipshit to find things to nitpick about penix. He’s a Generational qb. Enjoy it. Stop bitching
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870
    Wide open won’t happen enough against good teams to miss lead pipe cinch touchdowns.

    As for fragility, the topic was his NFL stock. Not a risk worth a load of draft capital if it was up to me.

    These are called opinions. Sorry I scared you.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    Wide open won’t happen enough against good teams to miss lead pipe cinch touchdowns.

    As for fragility, the topic was his NFL stock. Not a risk worth a load of draft capital if it was up to me.

    These are called opinions. Sorry I scared you.

    I won't disagree with you in his draft stock. He's a perfect "buy low" candidate in my eyes and I doubt he'll be a first round pick. If I'm a team who wants him I'm definitely going to play coy and mention his injury history a lot and for as many ears to hear as possible.

    I'm not even sure about the fragile label anymore since we've never seen him show any signs of it, but he does have a track record prior to UW.

    He can't afford to keep missing big shots to open receivers though. Two of his 55 yard flicks should have only gone 50 yards in the opening quarter of game one. It's something I'm sure we'll all be keeping an eye on.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870
    chuck said:

    HHusky said:

    Wide open won’t happen enough against good teams to miss lead pipe cinch touchdowns.

    As for fragility, the topic was his NFL stock. Not a risk worth a load of draft capital if it was up to me.

    These are called opinions. Sorry I scared you.

    I won't disagree with you in his draft stock. He's a perfect "buy low" candidate in my eyes and I doubt he'll be a first round pick. If I'm a team who wants him I'm definitely going to play coy and mention his injury history a lot and for as many ears to hear as possible.

    I'm not even sure about the fragile label anymore since we've never seen him show any signs of it, but he does have a track record prior to UW.

    He can't afford to keep missing big shots to open receivers though. Two of his 55 yard flicks should have only gone 50 yards in the opening quarter of game one. It's something I'm sure we'll all be keeping an eye on.
    In my opinion he often looks gimpy after light contact. And sometimes it's after contact with the ground alone. He looks to me like a guy who needs a lot of work on how to take contact and fall. I definitely agree with the "buy low" part; it's not that he's a bad draft pick . . . if he's there in the third or fourth round.

    Anyone can get injured in football. But with some guys injuries almost look inevitable.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,141 Standard Supporter
    You all are insane if you think Penix goes later than round 2. Have you been paying attention to how desperate teams are to find QB's in the NFL? Look at the dogshit guys taken in the Top-10 every year.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870
    edited September 2023

    You all are insane if you think Penix goes later than round 2. Have you been paying attention to how desperate teams are to find QB's in the NFL? Look at the dogshit guys taken in the Top-10 every year.

    You're making my point, actually.

    "The scouts" routinely miss on QBs. And teams make bad bets as a result.

    I want him to make bank somewhere, but outside of Seattle. I see him as a guy who will struggle to stay healthy.