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LA Times: Pac-12 collapse was Kalen DeBoer's fault

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  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,540 Founders Club
    edited August 2023

    I'd rather have games on Peacock for $70m a year than on AppleTV for $20m a year
    Rather easily...
    Numbers, math, facts, etc
    Simple facts?
  • coach_pete_JPG
    coach_pete_JPG Member Posts: 1,218
    Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,728 Standard Supporter
    haie said:
    NFL playoff games are being put on Peacock this year. Seems to be a little more legit than Apple.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter

    Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?

    Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,771 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?

    Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.

    But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear.

    UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014

    Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?

    Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.
    No, they're still broadcasting games this season (football, basketball, etc.).

    It'll probably die next July
  • TXDawg
    TXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 851 Founders Club
    I read that shitpiece article yesterday. The whole thing reeked of Kliavkoff going off the record in order to preserve his future prospects.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,701 Founders Club

    whlinder said:

    Does Phil Knight even understand what streaming is?

    Anyway, as I've said in other places, I can buy the argument that there was a benefit to Apple given its streaming ambitions and the number of its devices which are in the hands of American consumers on a day to day basis. "Everybody knows" that streaming is the future.

    But it's still a basic product strategy problem with distribution networks. Pac-12 content (the product) does not have high demand and therefore consumers will not seek it out regardless of its distribution network. Content like NFL games does have high demand and therefore they can get away with more streaming. Without that power the product is dependent on its distribution network for exposure, hence the need for linear.

    UW did the right thing and I agree with DeBoer's comments above. But I will say that streaming is the future and Apple has the biggest distribution network in the world. That future may not happen for 5+ more years, but it is the future.
    I don't want this future of which you speak.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club

    Anyone know what channel the Pac-12 network is on?

    Is that channel still a thing? I thought they would’ve shut down business operations immediately like OceanGate after the implosion of the conference.
    I've checked from time to time and it seems they've gone into just showing every replace from every sport they have.

    They will probably do live coverage for football and basketball for the final year.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    I bet yogi cries on tv.