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LeBron to Cleveland
PurpleJ
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Go Cavs!
Go Cavs!
PurpleJ
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Ftfy.
#loser
I'd also recommend that people stop kissing LBJ's ass like he's the greatest winner in the history of basketball ... he's won 2 rings and was mighty lucky to win the 2nd ring.
I at least can respect Malone in that he played basically his entire career for one team and didn't jump from contract to contract and team to team searching for the best opportunity for a title. If he would have won one in LA, I wouldn't view him as any better/worse of a player because I don't feel like you get a lot of the credit for winning titles when you aren't a primary cog in the equation and on that team, he was a 3rd or 4th option at best.
Our problem with Mora this offseason is the timing. It would be like if Lebron were a FA after the first title, he's not walking away from that team.
I hate what Lebron is doing personally as he's fucking with two franchises who are making moves thinking he's going there. By dragging this out they'll be fucked too.
I mean if he goes to Cleveland if you are Wade how can you ever be friends with this guy again? You opted out of 42 million over 2 years because he was coming back. Same with Haslem walking from 4.5 million.
If he stays in Miami how can you put the city of Cleveland through this again? They had given up hope of your return. They were happy with a young nucleus but with all this talk they are feeling like they are the favorites. If he stays in Miami this is worse than the Decision.
Either way I'm announcing my resignation as Lebron Dick Rider in this forum(I inherited it after Race died of full blown AIDS, so like Gerald Ford was never voted in).
All the reports are that Lebron made it clear to Wade and Bosh that he wasn't sure what he was doing and that they weren't doing this together. Wade opted out because the Heat asked him to and promised more money just over a longer contract. Haslem same deal. Although Haslems paychecks might come in the front office.
He's not putting Cleveland through anything. It seems he genuinely is having a hard time choosing. That's his right as a free agent. The fact that everyone wants to hang on every tweet and cupcake store prediction isn't on Lebron.
The fact that you have respect Karl Malone speaks volumes.
What exactly is wrong with trying to put yourself in a position to win a title? What's the difference between going from team to team looking for the best chance to win a title and what San Antonio has done? Those guys took massive pay cuts to help the team have the best chance to win. I don't see you out here complaining about that shortcut.
Of all of the "greats" to ever play the game, LBJ is the only one that has taken shortcuts to winning titles. You can disagree with that ... but that's my opinion. Winning a championship is hard work and is something you earn over the long-term with more than just the effort you put into that year.
I said that I had "some" respect for Karl Malone ... not that I have respect for him. He was a helluva player as long as you didn't rely on him over the last 2 minutes of the game.
Difference between LBJ being a mercenary and jumping from team to team versus a team like San Antonio that has had their 3 main players play their entire career for the same team? Or, when everybody talks about the pay cuts that Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili have taken, they also fail to recognize that the minute commitments that each of these players have is significantly less than other great players. They are making a sacrifice to surround themselves with better talent and allow them to get the rest necessary at their age to play at a high level in exchange for a bit of money. Seems like that's working - don't you think?
Also APAG is right that championships there are no shortcuts as Lebron found out. Everyone assumed it would be easy in Miami. Now I think their four year run was a success but at no point where they dominant. Their closest dominant team was 2013 but they were some fortunate circumstances away from losing in six games.
Also if Lebron truly was taking the "easy way out" he would have joined with either Wade or Bosh and gone to Chicago in summer of 2010. That team had the best record in the east with Rose being MVP. Imagine that team with just Lebron and you factor in he could have brought Wade or Bosh with him? Now that is the team that would be cheating.
What part of the last 4 years for Miami has looked like a shortcut? Was it losing in the Finals the first year? That sounds like a shortcut to winning a title, not winning one. Maybe it was Boston taking them 7 games in year 2. A series that included probably the greatest single game performance of all time. Or Indiana and San Antonio taking them 7 in year 3. Game 6 against SA that year was over if the Spurs make their free throws. Losing again in year 4. Hell of a shortcut.
I do think that the Miami guys thought it would be a shortcut. That they would show up and just win year after year. But they were wrong. Chris Bosh was asked after the first year "what was the biggest surprise of your first season together?" and he said "that it was so hard". They thought it would be a shortcut but they learned that there are no shortcuts in that league. You can hate on him for taking what he thought was a shortcut the first time, if you want. But going to Cleveland would not be going to some loaded up roster because you want a shortcut. Neither would going back to Miami at this point.
He's not holding anyone hostage. Every team is free to do whatever they want. If teams want to wait around to see what his does, how is that his fault? This is what free agency is. He can take as long as he wants to make up his mind.
This guy has good data about this past Miami team. I didn't realize how rare it could have been had they won the title as only once has a team had 54 wins won an NBA title.
Anyways, if there was ever any doubt as who the best player is I think this free agency is proving that with Lebron holding up all of free agency.
Now I think if he wants to in two years Durant can do that too.
I mean Melo, Bosh, Gasol, are all waiting on what decision Lebron James makes.