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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    Actually, it's great economic news. Everything is fine and we are in the midst of the greatest economic growth period in our history. Millions of new jobs since Slo Joe was elected. Plus no mean tweets.
  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,448 Swaye's Wigwam
    Definitely some predatory loans out there. People approved for well more than what they can afford. Family member got into a home a year ago, was borrowing money for the first 8 months just to make the mortgage payment which was 130% more than the rent they were paying, with virtually no savings.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,822 Founders Club

    Actually, it's great economic news. Everything is fine and we are in the midst of the greatest economic growth period in our history. Millions of new jobs since Slo Joe was elected. Plus no mean tweets.

    Don't forget the billions he's reduced the deficit by?
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    The scary part is that this is with some crazy shite like this going on...
    https://nationalmortgageprofessional.com/news/rocket-launches-program-discount-1st-year-mortgage-payments
    Rocket’s announcement follows temporary rate buydowns announced last month by its crosstown rival, United Wholesale Mortgage. UWM announced that its temporary rate buydowns would lower borrowers’ interest rates by up to 2% for the first two years of a mortgage.

    And in commercial real estate news...


    Glad we have the "adults" in charge...fire up the printing presses...
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    The scary part is that this is with some crazy shite like this going on...
    https://nationalmortgageprofessional.com/news/rocket-launches-program-discount-1st-year-mortgage-payments
    Rocket’s announcement follows temporary rate buydowns announced last month by its crosstown rival, United Wholesale Mortgage. UWM announced that its temporary rate buydowns would lower borrowers’ interest rates by up to 2% for the first two years of a mortgage.

    And in commercial real estate news...



    Glad we have the "adults" in charge...fire up the printing presses...
    SF can do what it wants. The mayor wants Joey to do something about the fentanyl deaths.

    Close the fucking border.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,250 Standard Supporter

    The scary part is that this is with some crazy shite like this going on...
    https://nationalmortgageprofessional.com/news/rocket-launches-program-discount-1st-year-mortgage-payments
    Rocket’s announcement follows temporary rate buydowns announced last month by its crosstown rival, United Wholesale Mortgage. UWM announced that its temporary rate buydowns would lower borrowers’ interest rates by up to 2% for the first two years of a mortgage.

    And in commercial real estate news...



    Glad we have the "adults" in charge...fire up the printing presses...
    Rumor has it the Hiltons are part of the cabal.

    If only @oregonblitzkrieg were here to confirm.

  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,345
    People would be happier if they owned nothing
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,981 Founders Club

    People would be happier if they owned nothing

    Disagree.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    People would be happier if they owned nothing

    Disagree.

    I agree with the "disagree". Look at how hard the grifters on the left chase money. From Bernie and his wife to AOC to Michael Moore to Rev Al Sharpton to barry. People would be happy if you owned nothing, but they sure are grifting hard for their take.
  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,448 Swaye's Wigwam

    Definitely some predatory loans out there. People approved for well more than what they can afford. Family member got into a home a year ago, was borrowing money for the first 8 months just to make the mortgage payment which was 130% more than the rent they were paying, with virtually no savings.

    Were the loans signed at gunpoint?

    If the lenders turn folks down they are racist. If they give a loan they are predators
    I wish they were so I'd at least have an excuse for my family member. Had an honest conversation with the family member but they were desperate to be in a certain area close to friends with much better jobs, in a house bigger than what they needed.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club

    Definitely some predatory loans out there. People approved for well more than what they can afford. Family member got into a home a year ago, was borrowing money for the first 8 months just to make the mortgage payment which was 130% more than the rent they were paying, with virtually no savings.

    Were the loans signed at gunpoint?

    If the lenders turn folks down they are racist. If they give a loan they are predators
    I wish they were so I'd at least have an excuse for my family member. Had an honest conversation with the family member but they were desperate to be in a certain area close to friends with much better jobs, in a house bigger than what they needed.
    Buying a house is huge commitment. And scary.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    Just don't buy San Francisco office towers in 2005 and try to sell it in 2023.



    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/what-are-older-office-towers-worth-new-era-second-san-francisco-office-tower-sells-70

    What Are Older Office Towers Worth In The New Era? Second San Francisco Office Tower Sells For 70% Off Original Listing Price

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    TUESDAY, JUN 06, 2023 - 03:05 PM
    Authored by Wolf Richter via WolfStreet.com,

    The burning question arose over the past two years what these largely empty older office towers in San Francisco are worth.

    The market had frozen over.

    There were no transactions because no one knew what anything was worth as San Francisco’s office market has morphed in just a few years from being one of the hottest office markets in the US with a vacancy rate of 7% in 2019 and some of the highest rents in the US, to being put on ice by working-from-home. About 33% of all office space is now on the market for lease – worse even than Houston, which was for years the worst office market in the US.

    So now there’s the second deal in about a month — though the sale hasn’t closed yet. Wells Fargo found a buyer for one of its office towers in San Francisco, the 13-story 355,000-square-foot 1960s-era tower at 550 California, across the street and around the corner from its headquarters tower on Montgomery.

    Wells Fargo had purchased the tower in 2005 for $108 million. It is vacating the building. Last year, it listed it for $160 million, but then pulled the listing after receiving bids reportedly below $40 million. Earlier this year, it engaged real estate investment bank Eastdil Secured to relist the tower.

    And it has now made a deal – the name of the buyer has not been disclosed – for about $42.6 million to $46 million ($120 to $130 per square foot), according to sources cited by the San Francisco Business Times. That would be 71% below the original asking price and nearly 60% below the purchase price in 2005.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,622

    Just don't buy San Francisco office towers in 2005 and try to sell it in 2023.



    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/what-are-older-office-towers-worth-new-era-second-san-francisco-office-tower-sells-70

    What Are Older Office Towers Worth In The New Era? Second San Francisco Office Tower Sells For 70% Off Original Listing Price

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    TUESDAY, JUN 06, 2023 - 03:05 PM
    Authored by Wolf Richter via WolfStreet.com,

    The burning question arose over the past two years what these largely empty older office towers in San Francisco are worth.

    The market had frozen over.

    There were no transactions because no one knew what anything was worth as San Francisco’s office market has morphed in just a few years from being one of the hottest office markets in the US with a vacancy rate of 7% in 2019 and some of the highest rents in the US, to being put on ice by working-from-home. About 33% of all office space is now on the market for lease – worse even than Houston, which was for years the worst office market in the US.

    So now there’s the second deal in about a month — though the sale hasn’t closed yet. Wells Fargo found a buyer for one of its office towers in San Francisco, the 13-story 355,000-square-foot 1960s-era tower at 550 California, across the street and around the corner from its headquarters tower on Montgomery.

    Wells Fargo had purchased the tower in 2005 for $108 million. It is vacating the building. Last year, it listed it for $160 million, but then pulled the listing after receiving bids reportedly below $40 million. Earlier this year, it engaged real estate investment bank Eastdil Secured to relist the tower.

    And it has now made a deal – the name of the buyer has not been disclosed – for about $42.6 million to $46 million ($120 to $130 per square foot), according to sources cited by the San Francisco Business Times. That would be 71% below the original asking price and nearly 60% below the purchase price in 2005.

    Wow...
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,619 Swaye's Wigwam

    Just don't buy San Francisco office towers in 2005 and try to sell it in 2023.



    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/what-are-older-office-towers-worth-new-era-second-san-francisco-office-tower-sells-70

    What Are Older Office Towers Worth In The New Era? Second San Francisco Office Tower Sells For 70% Off Original Listing Price

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    TUESDAY, JUN 06, 2023 - 03:05 PM
    Authored by Wolf Richter via WolfStreet.com,

    The burning question arose over the past two years what these largely empty older office towers in San Francisco are worth.

    The market had frozen over.

    There were no transactions because no one knew what anything was worth as San Francisco’s office market has morphed in just a few years from being one of the hottest office markets in the US with a vacancy rate of 7% in 2019 and some of the highest rents in the US, to being put on ice by working-from-home. About 33% of all office space is now on the market for lease – worse even than Houston, which was for years the worst office market in the US.

    So now there’s the second deal in about a month — though the sale hasn’t closed yet. Wells Fargo found a buyer for one of its office towers in San Francisco, the 13-story 355,000-square-foot 1960s-era tower at 550 California, across the street and around the corner from its headquarters tower on Montgomery.

    Wells Fargo had purchased the tower in 2005 for $108 million. It is vacating the building. Last year, it listed it for $160 million, but then pulled the listing after receiving bids reportedly below $40 million. Earlier this year, it engaged real estate investment bank Eastdil Secured to relist the tower.

    And it has now made a deal – the name of the buyer has not been disclosed – for about $42.6 million to $46 million ($120 to $130 per square foot), according to sources cited by the San Francisco Business Times. That would be 71% below the original asking price and nearly 60% below the purchase price in 2005.

    Mark to market crisis incoming...
  • AlexisAlexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,149 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sweet. Better distressed properties to buy for me.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,385 Standard Supporter
    Alexis said:

    Sweet. Better distressed properties to buy for me.

    Too bad you didn't get a chance to buy some of that sweet distressed Detroit real estate in the late 1960s.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,031 Founders Club

    Alexis said:

    Sweet. Better distressed properties to buy for me.

    Too bad you didn't get a chance to buy some of that sweet distressed Detroit real estate in the late 1960s.
    It's on HGTV now

    Buy a home for 40 grand and flip it
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,250 Standard Supporter

    Alexis said:

    Sweet. Better distressed properties to buy for me.

    Too bad you didn't get a chance to buy some of that sweet distressed Detroit real estate in the late 1960s.
    It's on HGTV now

    Buy a home for 40 grand and flip it
    Gots to be gay though.

    Maybe we could partner? Gay for business purposes.

    Social credit score bump.

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