What Pearl Jam sounds like to people who don't like Pearl Jam
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It's not Eddie's vault that Creed sucks ballz.BleachedAnusDawg said:Pearl Jam definitely sucks and Vedder is lame. His vocal style gave rise to many lousy garage bands. I would go so far as to guess that, without Pearl Jam, Creed never becomes big.
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It does feel like more of the post grunge bands were trying to be PJ more than any of the other grunge bands. Bush was chasing Nirvana (unpopular opinion: they actually made some really good music) but most of the late 90's/early 00's post grunge dreck was PJ lite.BleachedAnusDawg said:Pearl Jam definitely sucks and Vedder is lame. His vocal style gave rise to many lousy garage bands. I would go so far as to guess that, without Pearl Jam, Creed never becomes big.
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That's actually the only PJ song I really like, though it's just as vulnerable to being made fun of as anything else of theirs. Alive and Jeremy and Black or WTF ever it's called are all worse. At least Even Flow is a legit rocking tune and the chorus kicks ass.
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I like a lot of PJ songs including all of them listed here. That first album was legitimately great.chuck said:That's actually the only PJ song I really like, though it's just as vulnerable to being made fun of as anything else of theirs. Alive and Jeremy and Black or WTF ever it's called are all worse. At least Even Flow is a legit rocking tune and the chorus kicks ass.
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Always gets an instant WTF reaction when I tell people they peaked early and got boring and lame after Vitalogy. Then I tell them to name five songs after that and I prove my point every time
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I agree. Most bands peak very early, and subsequently run out of steam creatively. Grunge was similar to the protest and "Summer of Love" bands of the 60's, IMO.JoeEDangerously said:Always gets an instant WTF reaction when I tell people they peaked early and got boring and lame after Vitalogy. Then I tell them to name five songs after that and I prove my point every time
Some write about common themes, love songs, torch songs, drinking songs, fantasy, horror...these two "groups" of bands were writing about current events, public (the war, society, government, revolution) and private (loss, relationships, addiction, society), specific to the time they wrote them. Once they are heard, they are passe`(pardon my French and punctuation) to the artist. A hell of a lot of great music was made in the 60's by bands that were one-hit-wonders, or on a slog to irrelevancy, if they didn't move on creatively.
Once you get paid, your perspective changes...I think it would be very difficult to write songs of angst, outrage, protest, while sitting in a waterfront estate vs. a dingy basement with bandmates for roommates, and a rattletrap van in the front yard...
The Stones made relevant music for about 20 years (morphing from blues to pop, psychedelic, roots, c&w, reggae, disco, punk, and back), The Who for 14, The Beach Boys for about 5 (no Beatles because they broke up)...CSN (and Y, when he was in the mood) came as close to a great 2nd act as there is, IMO. I'm sure there are others, but the point is that the above mentioned groups are still packing houses, and no one who pays $$ to see them wants to hear "the new album"...I think PJ is right where they should be, and they get it...
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Hail, Hail and Red Mosquito.JoeEDangerously said:Always gets an instant WTF reaction when I tell people they peaked early and got boring and lame after Vitalogy. Then I tell them to name five songs after that and I prove my point every time
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Just Breathe, Crazy Mary, World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, I am Mine, Bushleaguer, Dance of the ClairvoyantsYellowSnow said:
Hail, Hail and Red Mosquito.JoeEDangerously said:Always gets an instant WTF reaction when I tell people they peaked early and got boring and lame after Vitalogy. Then I tell them to name five songs after that and I prove my point every time
But that’s only 2.
Really their best work is all the live concerts they’ve released off the sound boards. No two concerts are the same.
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I like Unemployable off that avocado album.pawz said:
Just Breathe, Crazy Mary, World Wide Suicide, Life Wasted, I am Mine, Bushleaguer, Dance of the ClairvoyantsYellowSnow said:
Hail, Hail and Red Mosquito.JoeEDangerously said:Always gets an instant WTF reaction when I tell people they peaked early and got boring and lame after Vitalogy. Then I tell them to name five songs after that and I prove my point every time
But that’s only 2.
Really their best work is all the live concerts they’ve released off the sound boards. No two concerts are the same. -
Steppenwolf is a huge example of thisFishpo31 said:
I agree. Most bands peak very early, and subsequently run out of steam creatively. Grunge was similar to the protest and "Summer of Love" bands of the 60's, IMO.JoeEDangerously said:Always gets an instant WTF reaction when I tell people they peaked early and got boring and lame after Vitalogy. Then I tell them to name five songs after that and I prove my point every time
Some write about common themes, love songs, torch songs, drinking songs, fantasy, horror...these two "groups" of bands were writing about current events, public (the war, society, government, revolution) and private (loss, relationships, addiction, society), specific to the time they wrote them. Once they are heard, they are passe`(pardon my French and punctuation) to the artist. A hell of a lot of great music was made in the 60's by bands that were one-hit-wonders, or on a slog to irrelevancy, if they didn't move on creatively.
Once you get paid, your perspective changes...I think it would be very difficult to write songs of angst, outrage, protest, while sitting in a waterfront estate vs. a dingy basement with bandmates for roommates, and a rattletrap van in the front yard...
The Stones made relevant music for about 20 years (morphing from blues to pop, psychedelic, roots, c&w, reggae, disco, punk, and back), The Who for 14, The Beach Boys for about 5 (no Beatles because they broke up)...CSN (and Y, when he was in the mood) came as close to a great 2nd act as there is, IMO. I'm sure there are others, but the point is that the above mentioned groups are still packing houses, and no one who pays $$ to see them wants to hear "the new album"...I think PJ is right where they should be, and they get it...
