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Shall not be infringed . . . or even seriously thought about . . . ever

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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,964 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Dazzler can't even understand that the militia is the people not the military. But he says he's schmart!

    Well regulated. By whom, Mall Cop?
    I means they need to be competent those days. Oh and they have to supply their own arms and gear. You know in case the government needs overthrowing.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,393 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2023
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
    - James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

    "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
    - James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

    "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
    - William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

    “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
    - Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
    - Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

    "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
    - St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

    "The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves."
    - Thomas Paine, "Thoughts on Defensive War" in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
    - Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

    "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
    - Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

    "For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion."
    - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787

    "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
    - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

    I could go on and on this took almost a minute to find but then you are a moron.

    An awful lot of militia quotes for a gal who thinks that language is irrelevant. A lot of non-founders too.
    When they say the entire male population can be the militia and every one should be entitled to a gun in like "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" that seems very clear to an honest person. To a fascist, words have no independent meaning other that what those in power want them to mean. If you don't like the words allowing people the right to keep and bear arms, they have a method in place to change those words.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,949
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Dazzler can't even understand that the militia is the people not the military. But he says he's schmart!

    Well regulated. By whom, Mall Cop?
    I means they need to be competent those days. Oh and they have to supply their own arms and gear. You know in case the government needs overthrowing.
    Really, the whole thing was to avoid the need for a standing army, and that ship has sailed. It wasn’t intended to provide an individual right to own a gun. Berger was right. The whole thing has been a fraud.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,393 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Dazzler can't even understand that the militia is the people not the military. But he says he's schmart!

    Well regulated. By whom, Mall Cop?
    I means they need to be competent those days. Oh and they have to supply their own arms and gear. You know in case the government needs overthrowing.
    Really, the whole thing was to avoid the need for a standing army, and that ship has sailed. It wasn’t intended to provide an individual right to own a gun. Berger was right. The whole thing has been a fraud.
    Outside the right of the people to bear arms thing - you nailed it.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,964 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Dazzler can't even understand that the militia is the people not the military. But he says he's schmart!

    Well regulated. By whom, Mall Cop?
    I means they need to be competent those days. Oh and they have to supply their own arms and gear. You know in case the government needs overthrowing.
    Really, the whole thing was to avoid the need for a standing army, and that ship has sailed. It wasn’t intended to provide an individual right to own a gun. Berger was right. The whole thing has been a fraud.
    No it was to enable the overthrow of a tyrannical government. Who taught you history some fag? Did they suck you into your beliefs?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,949

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Dazzler can't even understand that the militia is the people not the military. But he says he's schmart!

    Well regulated. By whom, Mall Cop?
    I means they need to be competent those days. Oh and they have to supply their own arms and gear. You know in case the government needs overthrowing.
    Really, the whole thing was to avoid the need for a standing army, and that ship has sailed. It wasn’t intended to provide an individual right to own a gun. Berger was right. The whole thing has been a fraud.
    Outside the right of the people to bear arms thing - you nailed it.
    When you leave the inconvenient words out of the analysis, it’s way easier to get the answer you want.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,276
    2,500+ children were taken out just today with state permission (and therefore complicity). No guns were involved. We are the state. Think about it.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,051 Founders Club
    If someone doesn't understand English just start speaking louder

    If someone doesn't agree with you scream look at the data

    Look at the data for that

    By the way following the science and the data was a common phrase during state destruction of private business during covid

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,051 Founders Club

    2,500+ children were taken out just today with state permission (and therefore complicity). No guns were involved. We are the state. Think about it.

    Should I look at the data?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,276

    2,500+ children were taken out just today with state permission (and therefore complicity). No guns were involved. We are the state. Think about it.

    Should I look at the data?
    No need. I just gave it to you. It’s just one number. It’s easier than looking at game stats. .
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,051 Founders Club

    2,500+ children were taken out just today with state permission (and therefore complicity). No guns were involved. We are the state. Think about it.

    Should I look at the data?
    No need. I just gave it to you. It’s just one number. It’s easier than looking at game stats. .
    LOOK AT THE DATA
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,276

    2,500+ children were taken out just today with state permission (and therefore complicity). No guns were involved. We are the state. Think about it.

    Should I look at the data?
    No need. I just gave it to you. It’s just one number. It’s easier than looking at game stats. .
    LOOK AT THE DATA
    2500 a day. No guns or 🦠 involved. State sponsored.

    Where’s Mike Damone?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,276

    If someone doesn't understand English just start speaking louder

    This works by the way.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Dazzler can't even understand that the militia is the people not the military. But he says he's schmart!

    Well regulated. By whom, Mall Cop?
    Quit calling Sled a Mall Cop, JackAss. You wouldn’t last a shift doing what he did. The folks you so fervently defend would have a good laugh when you boasted about 4 degrees and that you are a lawyer.

    After they were done laughing, they’d kick your mouthy ass into the ground. Please dress appropriately.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,964 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2023

    Dazzler thinks the government gives us our rights.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:
    Imagine being as smart as Maddie and having to deal with idiots like Bowman.
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