Equity in the workforce

SFGbob

http://twitter.com/CANews_Watch/status/1629304766798123008

WestlinnDuck

Nothing like On the Job Training with very relaxed recruiting standards. I blame Trump.

RaceBannon

At least we have a highly competent Transportation Secretary

WestlinnDuck

RaceBannon said:

At least we have a highly competent Transportation Secretary

I heard he was an expert on the Nation's transportation infrastructure just like Hunter was an expert on the Ukrainian oil and gas industry.

hardhat

RaceBannon said:

At least we have a highly competent Transportation Secretary

He's highly qualified. Ask our muh credentials expert.

46XiJCAB

When you made it a policy to not even interview former pilots or controllers that where WHITE and MALE, what do you expect.

Goduckies

There has been a bunch of close calls lately.... fing scarry

Sledog

My brother recently retired from being a airline pilot, buddy is an airline pilot with a few years left. The people they are bringing in are BAD. Especially at the regional airline level. He said just yesterday "don't fly if you don't have to"? He is the top training guy at a major airline and an FAA designee and does the check rides and certs. Glad I like to travel by RV! My buddy is a Marine aviator flew Harriers for years saw heavy combat in the Gulf war and then Bosnia, He's been flying since he was 15 or 16 when we were in high school.

Recent certification the female pilot asks the other pilot to take over and says "I can't multi-task"! Not a good thing for a pilot.

georgiaduck

Lots of pilots are hitting forced retirement age (65) over the next few years so airlines are looking for anything to keep the pipeline full. Current pilots just got an 18% raise to keep them with their company.

I won't name the airline (but it's based in Atlanta and rhymes with Schmelta) hired a pilot who failed nine checkrides. Not exactly a sterling record there.

Goduckies

Yikes

Swaye

RaceBannon said:

At least we have a highly competent Transportation Secretary

hardhat

"There's that word again 'competent'. It's clearly a conservative term."

SFGbob

Showing up on time.
Hard work
Self reliance
Respect authority
Delaying gratification
Merit based standards

All signs of white supremacy.

UW_Doog_Bot

hardhat said:

"There's that word again 'competent'. It's clearly a conservative term."

It's a problematic sign of white supremacy.

RaceBannon

UW_Doog_Bot said:

hardhat said:

"There's that word again 'competent'. It's clearly a conservative term."

It's a problematic sign of white supremacy.

Some people are saying

Not us in the media mind you. But some people are saying

whlinder

"It seems like" is a great anecdotal approach to evaluating a system which has plenty of passenger safety statistics over a long period of time. It's nice that plane tracking and radar software is now accessible to the masses so these things can come to light and the system can continue to improve. However, I can also promise you runway conflicts forcing go-arounds occurred way before the past 3 years. Anecdotally. I've seen it. Is it worse statistically? I honestly don't know.

Hiring practices were an issue before COVID and aren't related to equity, whatever that means. Atlas Air 3591 is the clear example of this. An apparently qualified First Officer, getting through the hiring and training process, sending a 767 straight into the water because he can't maintain situational awareness. That rests with the system to identify in its hiring and training practices in the context of a labor shortage. I strongly doubt the system has been loosened to make it easier to get into a pilot seat in the past 3 years; hopefully the gaps identified through that disaster have been addressed.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/legacy-of-a-lie-the-crash-of-atlas-air-flight-3591-519a3a7bd6ec

In an addendum to the report, NTSB Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg chose to look at the big picture. If we focus on Aska’s human failings, on the legacy of his lie, we miss the real safety lessons. How many other pilots just like Conrad Jules Aska are out there right now, one accidental go-around mode activation away from disaster? The responsibility to keep them out of airline cockpits must lie with the system itself — and Landsberg believed that that system failed. Regarding the FAA’s long-delayed implementation of the pilot records database, he wrote, “I can see no good reason as to why it should have taken that long.” Addressing industry pushback, he added, “If you think monitoring, training or getting a solid background check on a prospective pilot candidate is expensive, try having an accident.”

RaceBannon

whlinder said:

"It seems like" is a great anecdotal approach to evaluating a system which has plenty of passenger safety statistics over a long period of time. It's nice that plane tracking and radar software is now accessible to the masses so these things can come to light and the system can continue to improve. However, I can also promise you runway conflicts forcing go-arounds occurred way before the past 3 years. Anecdotally. I've seen it. Is it worse statistically? I honestly don't know.

Hiring practices were an issue before COVID and aren't related to equity, whatever that means. Atlas Air 3591 is the clear example of this. An apparently qualified First Officer, getting through the hiring and training process, sending a 767 straight into the water because he can't maintain situational awareness. That rests with the system to identify in its hiring and training practices in the context of a labor shortage. I strongly doubt the system has been loosened to make it easier to get into a pilot seat in the past 3 years; hopefully the gaps identified through that disaster have been addressed.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/legacy-of-a-lie-the-crash-of-atlas-air-flight-3591-519a3a7bd6ec

In an addendum to the report, NTSB Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg chose to look at the big picture. If we focus on Aska’s human failings, on the legacy of his lie, we miss the real safety lessons. How many other pilots just like Conrad Jules Aska are out there right now, one accidental go-around mode activation away from disaster? The responsibility to keep them out of airline cockpits must lie with the system itself — and Landsberg believed that that system failed. Regarding the FAA’s long-delayed implementation of the pilot records database, he wrote, “I can see no good reason as to why it should have taken that long.” Addressing industry pushback, he added, “If you think monitoring, training or getting a solid background check on a prospective pilot candidate is expensive, try having an accident.”

Quite honestly I don't disagree

Covid with a side of mandates probably culled the herd. Lot of industries are playing catch up. Like construction. It's pathetic these days.

Wasn't Teneriffe a runway collision? In the 70s

Anyway my weekly flights to Spokane are done for now. So I'm good

Goduckies

RaceBannon said:

whlinder said:

"It seems like" is a great anecdotal approach to evaluating a system which has plenty of passenger safety statistics over a long period of time. It's nice that plane tracking and radar software is now accessible to the masses so these things can come to light and the system can continue to improve. However, I can also promise you runway conflicts forcing go-arounds occurred way before the past 3 years. Anecdotally. I've seen it. Is it worse statistically? I honestly don't know.

Hiring practices were an issue before COVID and aren't related to equity, whatever that means. Atlas Air 3591 is the clear example of this. An apparently qualified First Officer, getting through the hiring and training process, sending a 767 straight into the water because he can't maintain situational awareness. That rests with the system to identify in its hiring and training practices in the context of a labor shortage. I strongly doubt the system has been loosened to make it easier to get into a pilot seat in the past 3 years; hopefully the gaps identified through that disaster have been addressed.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/legacy-of-a-lie-the-crash-of-atlas-air-flight-3591-519a3a7bd6ec

In an addendum to the report, NTSB Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg chose to look at the big picture. If we focus on Aska’s human failings, on the legacy of his lie, we miss the real safety lessons. How many other pilots just like Conrad Jules Aska are out there right now, one accidental go-around mode activation away from disaster? The responsibility to keep them out of airline cockpits must lie with the system itself — and Landsberg believed that that system failed. Regarding the FAA’s long-delayed implementation of the pilot records database, he wrote, “I can see no good reason as to why it should have taken that long.” Addressing industry pushback, he added, “If you think monitoring, training or getting a solid background check on a prospective pilot candidate is expensive, try having an accident.”

Quite honestly I don't disagree

Covid with a side of mandates probably culled the herd. Lot of industries are playing catch up. Like construction. It's pathetic these days.

Wasn't Teneriffe a runway collision? In the 70s

Anyway my weekly flights to Spokane are done for now. So I'm good

Teneriffe was the worst ever a KLM 747 slammed into a Pan Am 747 in dense fog and tjwy were only there due to a terrorist act at La Palma... it cleared up so then the planes were flying to there and the KLM pilot was in too big a hurry. A few survived on Pan Am amazingly. Very sad.

SFGbob

http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1631305889599705091

RoadTrip

Swaye said:

RaceBannon said:

At least we have a highly competent Transportation Secretary

RAT approved and promoted child abuse.

whlinder

RaceBannon said:

whlinder said:

"It seems like" is a great anecdotal approach to evaluating a system which has plenty of passenger safety statistics over a long period of time. It's nice that plane tracking and radar software is now accessible to the masses so these things can come to light and the system can continue to improve. However, I can also promise you runway conflicts forcing go-arounds occurred way before the past 3 years. Anecdotally. I've seen it. Is it worse statistically? I honestly don't know.

Hiring practices were an issue before COVID and aren't related to equity, whatever that means. Atlas Air 3591 is the clear example of this. An apparently qualified First Officer, getting through the hiring and training process, sending a 767 straight into the water because he can't maintain situational awareness. That rests with the system to identify in its hiring and training practices in the context of a labor shortage. I strongly doubt the system has been loosened to make it easier to get into a pilot seat in the past 3 years; hopefully the gaps identified through that disaster have been addressed.

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/legacy-of-a-lie-the-crash-of-atlas-air-flight-3591-519a3a7bd6ec

In an addendum to the report, NTSB Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg chose to look at the big picture. If we focus on Aska’s human failings, on the legacy of his lie, we miss the real safety lessons. How many other pilots just like Conrad Jules Aska are out there right now, one accidental go-around mode activation away from disaster? The responsibility to keep them out of airline cockpits must lie with the system itself — and Landsberg believed that that system failed. Regarding the FAA’s long-delayed implementation of the pilot records database, he wrote, “I can see no good reason as to why it should have taken that long.” Addressing industry pushback, he added, “If you think monitoring, training or getting a solid background check on a prospective pilot candidate is expensive, try having an accident.”

Quite honestly I don't disagree

Covid with a side of mandates probably culled the herd. Lot of industries are playing catch up. Like construction. It's pathetic these days.

Wasn't Teneriffe a runway collision? In the 70s

Anyway my weekly flights to Spokane are done for now. So I'm good

Yes Tenerife was in the mid-70s. Terrible event but needed like 30 things to go wrong for that to happen. Far more relevant was the LAX runway crash in the 90s where the controller basically forgot that a prop plane was told to taxi onto the runway and hold while a 737 was cleared to land. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_runway_disaster