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See ?!?! Putin is literally Hitler !!1!Goduckies said:
Great what happens when putin is fed up with the losses and launches a nuke?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Lol do you realize Russia doesn't have equipment for all those mobiks? They barely did for the first 300k.46XiJCAB said:
Do you have any idea how many Troops Russia is readying right now? You have a fantasy that wars don’t turn. This one is no different.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The only significant gains since summer of 2022 have been by Ukraine46XiJCAB said:Wait until PGOS starts getting reports of Russian gains and the begging from Zelensky really heats up with a US Troop support ask. Then what?
All of those calling this Hitler 2.0 will be backed into a corner and forced to support sending our men and women to save DeMoCrAcY. It’s gonna happen as sure as Joey shits himself daily.
Joey should have worked overtime to avoid this War altogether. But then he can’t be a tuff guy in Suns and who’s gonna get rich if that happened?
I’m right here and you know it. Ukraine and Joey should be calling for a cease fire and negotiations. They have the upper hand, right?
Their professional army is sending sailors from the artic circle into battle on foot with no mobile support.
Their artillery stocks are so low they are buying shells from North Korea and drones from Iran.
Wagner has been cut off from the MOD and can no longer recruit prisoners because the MOD has plans for penal battalions.
Did I walk into a Russian fan boi telegram channel?
"Ooohhhhhh boooiii just you wait until the trains start running West!" Lulz this shit is a meme.
The Russians have proven that corruption does have consequences. They aren't to be underestimated but lol at the thought that this has been anything but a complete disaster from the start for them. This is Afghanistan x1,000.
I can literally watch livestreams from the war and see this shit live where Russians are STILL sending tanks into battle single file like it's WW2. Keep coping that somehow this isn't incompetence on grand display.
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I'm buying dead Russians.RaceBannon said:
You're buying thisUW_Doog_Bot said:
I didn't buy Afghanistan or Iraq so I'm good.RaceBannon said:I can't separate the actors from the movie in this one. I just can't
Because I've seen this movie before
I wanted freedom and democracy for the middle east in particular Afghanistan and Iraq. I was in. The arsenal of democracy turned out to be just what Ike warned us about.
I can't shake the evidence that shows this was all part of the malarkey of the last 5 years and Trump had to be removed to let it happen. Ukraine stinks to high heaven Sorry but it's true
And the US actors on this and the simps like H cheering from the safety of the sidelines seals the deal
I'm out -
This is a fs take that's already been debated in this thred.Goduckies said:
Great what happens when putin is fed up with the losses and launches a nuke?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Lol do you realize Russia doesn't have equipment for all those mobiks? They barely did for the first 300k.46XiJCAB said:
Do you have any idea how many Troops Russia is readying right now? You have a fantasy that wars don’t turn. This one is no different.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The only significant gains since summer of 2022 have been by Ukraine46XiJCAB said:Wait until PGOS starts getting reports of Russian gains and the begging from Zelensky really heats up with a US Troop support ask. Then what?
All of those calling this Hitler 2.0 will be backed into a corner and forced to support sending our men and women to save DeMoCrAcY. It’s gonna happen as sure as Joey shits himself daily.
Joey should have worked overtime to avoid this War altogether. But then he can’t be a tuff guy in Suns and who’s gonna get rich if that happened?
I’m right here and you know it. Ukraine and Joey should be calling for a cease fire and negotiations. They have the upper hand, right?
Their professional army is sending sailors from the artic circle into battle on foot with no mobile support.
Their artillery stocks are so low they are buying shells from North Korea and drones from Iran.
Wagner has been cut off from the MOD and can no longer recruit prisoners because the MOD has plans for penal battalions.
Did I walk into a Russian fan boi telegram channel?
"Ooohhhhhh boooiii just you wait until the trains start running West!" Lulz this shit is a meme.
The Russians have proven that corruption does have consequences. They aren't to be underestimated but lol at the thought that this has been anything but a complete disaster from the start for them. This is Afghanistan x1,000.
I can literally watch livestreams from the war and see this shit live where Russians are STILL sending tanks into battle single file like it's WW2. Keep coping that somehow this isn't incompetence on grand display. -
It's a different product entirelyRaceBannon said:
You're buying thisUW_Doog_Bot said:
I didn't buy Afghanistan or Iraq so I'm good.RaceBannon said:I can't separate the actors from the movie in this one. I just can't
Because I've seen this movie before
I wanted freedom and democracy for the middle east in particular Afghanistan and Iraq. I was in. The arsenal of democracy turned out to be just what Ike warned us about.
I can't shake the evidence that shows this was all part of the malarkey of the last 5 years and Trump had to be removed to let it happen. Ukraine stinks to high heaven Sorry but it's true
And the US actors on this and the simps like H cheering from the safety of the sidelines seals the deal
I'm out -
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices -
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time. -
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders. -
My sources are military men with long careers who still have their own sources on the inside. Both having long studied Russia. One was Chief UN Weapons Inspector, the other a Senior Advisor to Secretary of Defense. They have more or less been accurate the whole way.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Your sources are Biden voters being spoon fed by the CIA. Putin is literally Hitler.
Hope this fucking helps. It won't, but still.
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Disagree. They've been long enveloped. Historic blunder commenced.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
-
UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
-
pawz said:
My sources are military men with long careers who still have their own sources on the inside. Both having long studied Russia. One was Chief UN Weapons Inspector, the other a Senior Advisor to Secretary of Defense. They have more or less been accurate the whole way.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Your sources are Biden voters being spoon fed by the CIA. Putin is literally Hitler.
Hope this fucking helps. It won't, but still.
You're the one seriously claiming the Russian military resounding defeats are "retreats to the high ground"
It reads like some off season natty doog shit. The Russians are working harder than ever, it wasn't a loss it was planned retreats, those elite paratroopers that all died were just the C team, wait until the REAL Russians show up!
You couldn't be more uninformed if you tried. -
One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.PostGameOrangeSlices said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
Worst blunder, confirmed.
-
I produced my source.PostGameOrangeSlices said:pawz said:
My sources are military men with long careers who still have their own sources on the inside. Both having long studied Russia. One was Chief UN Weapons Inspector, the other a Senior Advisor to Secretary of Defense. They have more or less been accurate the whole way.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Your sources are Biden voters being spoon fed by the CIA. Putin is literally Hitler.
Hope this fucking helps. It won't, but still.
You're the one seriously claiming the Russian military resounding defeats are "retreats to the high ground"
You couldn't be more uninformed if you tried.
You seem to know more than a fmr Chief UN Weapons Inspector.
'Nuff said on that.
-
Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.pawz said:
One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.PostGameOrangeSlices said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
Worst blunder, confirmed.
Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ. -
Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.pawz said:
One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.PostGameOrangeSlices said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
Worst blunder, confirmed.
Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
Orange you a gullible one.
-
Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. LOL.pawz said:
Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.pawz said:
One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.PostGameOrangeSlices said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
Worst blunder, confirmed.
Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
Orange you a gullible one. -
Why would anyone drive an orange vehicle into war in Europe? Do you see a desert anywhere?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. LOL.pawz said:
Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.pawz said:
One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.PostGameOrangeSlices said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
Worst blunder, confirmed.
Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
Orange you a gullible one.
Speaking of stupid motherfuckers.
Putin is literally Hitler. -
pawz said:
Why would anyone drive an orange vehicle into war in Europe? Do you see a desert anywhere?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. LOL.pawz said:
Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.pawz said:
One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.PostGameOrangeSlices said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.pawz said:
Your @Sources think you are a Rube.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.hardhat said:
Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?PostGameOrangeSlices said:hardhat said:
I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientampawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.46XiJCAB said:
You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I'm 100% right on this topic.Bob_C said:
Embarrassing venture into the tug.PostGameOrangeSlices said:PurpleThrobber said:
The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Smooth brain takes from both of you.
The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?
Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.
We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.
Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.
Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.
China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.
If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.
This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.
No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.
Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.
If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.
Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.
Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere
The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.
Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.
The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.
Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update
The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.
You keep lapping it up, boy.
Obstinate.
let that sink in
Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.
The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
Hope this helps.
@PostGameOrangeSlices
The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.
This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego
Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?
Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.
VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.
It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.
Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.
Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.
They ended up like this:
Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.
It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
Worst blunder, confirmed.
Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
Orange you a gullible one.
Speaking of stupid motherfuckers.
Putin is literally Hitler.
You have got to be fucking trolling. That is what burnt out vehicles look like, genius. LOL.
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@PostGameOrangeSlices
Just like Covid. Just like Russiagate. Just like the last motherfucking 6 years.
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pawz said:
@PostGameOrangeSlices
Just like Covid. Just like Russiagate. Just like the last motherfucking 6 years.
Keep looking for those orange vehicles you dumb fuck -
This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
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Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
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Keep digging!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
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Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!hardhat said:
Keep digging!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
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What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!hardhat said:
Keep digging!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
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What I'm talking about is that you and Pawz don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Read a few replies above for reference.hardhat said:
What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!hardhat said:
Keep digging!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
The only ones getting embarrassed here is team Putin. Red-blooded American's bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia is a fucking travesty. Do better. -
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
this is such a stupid fucking take that it's honestly mindblowingSledog said:We've sent them more money and weapons than the Russian yearly military budget and they haven't won. They should be on their own!
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It's embarrassing to hear the discourse from shitheads like you. Anything that doesn't line up with TEAM UKRAINE means someone is team Putin. Anyone who questions mandates and lockdowns is a Trumper. Anyone who vaguely talks about free speech is a fascist.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
What I'm talking about is that you and Pawz don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Read a few replies above for reference.hardhat said:
What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!hardhat said:
Keep digging!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
The only ones getting embarrassed here is team Putin. Red-blooded American's bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia is a fucking travesty. Do better. -
@PostGameOrangeSlices u mad bro?
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hardhat said:
It's embarrassing to hear the discourse from shitheads like you. Anything that doesn't line up with TEAM UKRAINE means someone is team Putin. Anyone who questions mandates and lockdowns is a Trumper. Anyone who vaguely talks about free speech is a fascist.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
What I'm talking about is that you and Pawz don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Read a few replies above for reference.hardhat said:
What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!hardhat said:
Keep digging!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTHhardhat said:This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
The only ones getting embarrassed here is team Putin. Red-blooded American's bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia is a fucking travesty. Do better.
If you weren't such a clueless piece of shit you'd know that I actually agree with you on the lockdowns and free speech stuff. This isn't my first rodeo in the tug.
Try to keep up.
