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Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?
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Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran. -
It was not worth the costs. At all.Bob_C said:
Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
But Iraq is better now than when Saddam was in charge, rather easily -
A contradiction wrapped inside an enigma.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It was not worth the costs. At all.Bob_C said:
Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
But Iraq is better now than when Saddam was in charge, rather easily
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Yup that's why we lost Vietnam46XiJCAB said:
When the lawyers and bureaucrats took over the rules of engagement, it was over as far as a military victory was concerned.RaceBannon said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
PGOS almost gets itSledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot
Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me -
Orange tankspawz said:
A contradiction wrapped inside an enigma.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It was not worth the costs. At all.Bob_C said:
Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
But Iraq is better now than when Saddam was in charge, rather easily -
That and the ARVN being retardedGoduckies said:
Yup that's why we lost Vietnam46XiJCAB said:
When the lawyers and bureaucrats took over the rules of engagement, it was over as far as a military victory was concerned.RaceBannon said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
PGOS almost gets itSledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot
Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me -
So it’s better but we shouldn’t have done it because of the costs?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It was not worth the costs. At all.Bob_C said:
Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
But Iraq is better now than when Saddam was in charge, rather easily -
Be better.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Orange tankspawz said:
A contradiction wrapped inside an enigma.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It was not worth the costs. At all.Bob_C said:
Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
But Iraq is better now than when Saddam was in charge, rather easily
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correct.Bob_C said:
So it’s better but we shouldn’t have done it because of the costs?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It was not worth the costs. At all.Bob_C said:
Much better it which regards? Don't tell me you think it was worth the costs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DisagreeWestlinnDuck said:
Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.Sledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.
Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)
All SNAFUs
Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
But Iraq is better now than when Saddam was in charge, rather easily
trillions of dollars and troops lives lost. and a casus belli based on lies
But, it is better now -
Those muslims were awfully quiet for 1000 years. That's what happens when you kill enough of them. They remember. Hopefully they remember they fucking started it!RaceBannon said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
PGOS almost gets itSledog said:
In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Sledog said:
No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillasRaceBannon said:I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on
Losing men to homemade bombs
The Iraqi military? Not so much
Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?
Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...
I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot
Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me
