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Hardcore Husky Podcast: Has Pac12 Become the Modern Day Lynyrd Skynyrd Playing at the Puyallup Fair?
DerekJohnson
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Derek and JoeEDangerously are joined by special guest Doogles as the boys talk Pac-12 expansion. Should SMU and San Diego State be taken seriously? Is Jen Cohen playing the long game in waiting for a Big 10 invite? How many Husky fans remember that Erich Wilson II led Washington in rushing in the 41-3 loss to LSU in 2012? Today's show opens with Cowboy Pup expressing concern for his friend PurpleJ. All this and more on today's show! (WoolleyDoog will return soon)
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Thanks for the shout-out, @Doogles.
Solid take, Houston is way more Texas than Dallas. Dallas wishes it was in Southern California, Houston wonders why you’d visit Orange County when you have Galveston.
As has been discussed, to create a west coast division from a travel scheduling standpoint in some future league alignment, leaves you with USC, UCLA, UW and Oregon with Utah being the only other “west coast” team in football that has a presence.
Cal and Stanford are opposed to the evolving new world culture of football ~ NIL etc and alums and fans simply do not attend football. In the new world order, Stanford might get included anyway to have a Bay Area media presence, but Cal is another matter. UCLA leadership was desperate to separate from the head in the clouds UC system Berkeley dominated administrative mothership hierarchy of sports hating bullshit ~ which in addition to looming sports funding deficits, is why they needed to leave.
For a west coast travel swing, I’m not counting the Arizona schools or Colorado [southwest / midwest] and Oregon State and Washington State just don’t have the clout to matter. As the pods said, maneuvers now are just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic, in the meantime, the league just needs to enjoy making piñatas while events unfold.
2) Pretty much the issues in the conference come from ASU who supported Larry Scott until the end and now Cal and others think they shouldn't get a say in any matter related to realignment. ASU isn't leaving without Arizona, who doesn't want to leave at all. But they are the primary school who doesn't want SMU in. And their boosters currently want Cal to die. Cal and Stanford will not do anything without UW and Oregon.
3) UW and Oregon basically want the majority of the revenue and are fine with staying in the conference if that happens, to keep them juiced until they leave for another conference anyways. They do not care about desert/mountain schools leaving since they preside over TV markets (they want higher revenue) and yet are seen as more mouths to feed that don't provide enough back.
4) The Big 12 doesn't want the "4 corners" schools. They think if there's a play to be made then it's *only* getting UW and Oregon and then taking two 4 corners schools that give them the biggest markets.
And the condition that Washington and Oregon need to demand of the Big 10 or ACC is that they never, ever, ever, ever, ever invite either Cal or Stanford to join.