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Race Bannon's OFFICIAL Golf Talk 2023-2024 Thread
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Desert courses need to have wide ass fairways or I'm saying no thanks. I don't golf on rocks with rattlesnakes and scorpions.YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
My driver is wildly forgiving. It really doesn't spin the ball much at all. I'll push or pull shots but they tend to go straight where I hit them. -
When I was learning to play in the 80's after having forgotten everything from when I was a kid a guy I played with told me to hit two five irons and a wedge and you will play bogey golf. We weren't playing 7200 yard courses
I knew he was right. It made sense. The math worked
But fuck that. I'll shoot 100 my way -
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm. -
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm. -
Regrets? You've had a few. But then again, too few to mention.RaceBannon said:When I was learning to play in the 80's after having forgotten everything from when I was a kid a guy I played with told me to hit two five irons and a wedge and you will play bogey golf. We weren't playing 7200 yard courses
I knew he was right. It made sense. The math worked
But fuck that. I'll shoot 100 my way -
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm. -
Extremely challenging. Designed by the same dude who did Brandon Dunes. Jokes was he was going through a divorce when laying out Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
@chuck 32 years ago this was all beautiful piney woods and then in '91 a big burn came through the far West side of White Wakanda. Cleared things out and now its a high desert version of Chamber's Bay. I hope the trees don't grow back since this is my fire break. -
Played Bandon and Tetherow on the same trip. Kidd's Bandon course is very subtle and straight forward, especially compared to the other courses there. Was expecting something similar at Tetherow, not the case.YellowSnow said:
Extremely challenging. Designed by the same dude who did Brandon Dunes. Jokes was he was going through a divorce when laying out Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
@chuck 32 years ago this was all beautiful piney woods and then in '91 a big burn came through the far West side of White Wakanda. Cleared things out and now its a high desert version of Chamber's Bay. I hope the trees don't grow back since this is my fire break. -
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/history-repeating-itself-30-years-later-greg-norman-still-challenging-most-powerful-men-golfBleachedAnusDawg said:
My point really isn't about LIV making the Tour better. I'm saying that Tour players should be thanking LIV for coming along and giving them some nice pay raises. LIV accelerated some changes that benefit those guys.RaceBannon said:You're not really trying to make the tour you want to crush stronger
Norman chokes again
Little history
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Rory might want to shut up and thank his LIV peers and Greg.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/35762063/pga-tour-revamps-format-designated-events-no-cutsIn what commissioner Jay Monahan described as decisions that will "transform and set the future direction" of the PGA Tour, the tour's policy board voted Tuesday night to dramatically change the format for future designated events, which will have smaller fields and no cuts.
In a memo to PGA Tour members Wednesday, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN, Monahan announced that eight designated events in 2024 and beyond will have fields between 70 to 80 players and no cuts. It's another wave of dramatic changes as the PGA Tour continues to try to fend off a threat from the Saudi-financed LIV Golf League. -
I miss Tiger
If Tiger opened with 65 you could hang the banner.
Rahm was 8 ahead of Rory. Now 2
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Tiger should have lifted less, drank and few more beers and smoked a few cigs. He'd probably have few more majors in 'em if he followed this path.RaceBannon said:I miss Tiger
If Tiger opened with 65 you could hang the banner.
Rahm was 8 ahead of Rory. Now 2
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I'll take the extra 70 yards every day of the weekYellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
Your course is brutal for a number of reasons ... that said the fairways there are generally fairly wide so as long as you get some kind of consistent swing with your driver where you can rely on the ball flight then you'll never talk yourself out of the driver again -
She'd absolutely kick my assYellowSnow said:
I took a lesson last summer.Tequilla said:
You aren't a beginner anymoreYellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
She was a lesbian @BleachedAnusDawg . Majority of the best NCAA woman's golfer are rug munchers.
Heading to the NW is a good business decision for her -
Don't get me started on Tetherow ...Bob_C said:
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
I've played over 60 courses located on Golf Digest's Top 100 Public Course listing dating back to the 2005 list or whatnot (there's less than 200 courses total on that list that are still operating and/or still public and/or if private I played them when they were still public).
Tetherow is BY FAR at the bottom 3 or 5 of the courses that I've played on the list. The design of the course is largely fine but the course is way too rough around the edges for someone playing the course here and there. I've hit good shots there that just ended up terribly . A buddy of mine had about a 25 foot birdie putt, proceeded to putt it off the green (nobody thought he hit a bad putt) and it went down the false front about 40 yards ... he ended up picking up his ball after about 3 chips came back to his feet.
If I'm in Bend I'll play Tetherow out of respect to Yellow Pisser provided I'm playing with him. That said, there are plenty of other courses in the area that I like far better at equal or more favorable prices.
On another note Pisser, I need you to find someone who is a member at Brasada Ranch (Canyons) as that's pretty much the only course that I haven't played in Bend (excluding Silvies Ranch) that is public or semi-private. If I'm going to play Tetherow with you we've got to find somewhere else that I'll be in a happier mood in after 18.
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Really good finish today ...
You never really think of Bay Hill as being one of the toughest tests on tour but it had everybody playing defensive today. -
According to the announcers it was the toughest non major last year
The format is delivering. Was a good finish -
Super penalizing courses are fine, provided you know what is there and accept that risk on decision making end. When you add in the blind hazards it gets stupid. It reminds me of Las Sendas in Mesa if anyone has played there.Tequilla said:
Don't get me started on Tetherow ...Bob_C said:
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
I've played over 60 courses located on Golf Digest's Top 100 Public Course listing dating back to the 2005 list or whatnot (there's less than 200 courses total on that list that are still operating and/or still public and/or if private I played them when they were still public).
Tetherow is BY FAR at the bottom 3 or 5 of the courses that I've played on the list. The design of the course is largely fine but the course is way too rough around the edges for someone playing the course here and there. I've hit good shots there that just ended up terribly . A buddy of mine had about a 25 foot birdie putt, proceeded to putt it off the green (nobody thought he hit a bad putt) and it went down the false front about 40 yards ... he ended up picking up his ball after about 3 chips came back to his feet.
If I'm in Bend I'll play Tetherow out of respect to Yellow Pisser provided I'm playing with him. That said, there are plenty of other courses in the area that I like far better at equal or more favorable prices.
On another note Pisser, I need you to find someone who is a member at Brasada Ranch (Canyons) as that's pretty much the only course that I haven't played in Bend (excluding Silvies Ranch) that is public or semi-private. If I'm going to play Tetherow with you we've got to find somewhere else that I'll be in a happier mood in after 18. -
Bay Hill has been tough now for a fewe years. -9 on a par 72 is no joke and it's been even tougher in recent years I believe.Tequilla said:Really good finish today ...
You never really think of Bay Hill as being one of the toughest tests on tour but it had everybody playing defensive today.
Bay Hill kind of blows from an architecture standpoint, and is a course that I have no interest in playing. But I'd easily rather watch these guys struggle than watch them stop 5i's on a dime. -
Florida golf tends to blow but when the wind blows and the greens are asphalt it is a challenge
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The only putt made the last hour of the broadcast
10 development tours. 3 second place finishes on tour.
One win. Priceless. Or 3.6 million. Exempt for everything
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None of this really matters to me personally speaking. I'll never be a serious enough golfer to worry about Tetherow fucking with my handicap.Tequilla said:
Don't get me started on Tetherow ...Bob_C said:
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
I've played over 60 courses located on Golf Digest's Top 100 Public Course listing dating back to the 2005 list or whatnot (there's less than 200 courses total on that list that are still operating and/or still public and/or if private I played them when they were still public).
Tetherow is BY FAR at the bottom 3 or 5 of the courses that I've played on the list. The design of the course is largely fine but the course is way too rough around the edges for someone playing the course here and there. I've hit good shots there that just ended up terribly . A buddy of mine had about a 25 foot birdie putt, proceeded to putt it off the green (nobody thought he hit a bad putt) and it went down the false front about 40 yards ... he ended up picking up his ball after about 3 chips came back to his feet.
If I'm in Bend I'll play Tetherow out of respect to Yellow Pisser provided I'm playing with him. That said, there are plenty of other courses in the area that I like far better at equal or more favorable prices.
On another note Pisser, I need you to find someone who is a member at Brasada Ranch (Canyons) as that's pretty much the only course that I haven't played in Bend (excluding Silvies Ranch) that is public or semi-private. If I'm going to play Tetherow with you we've got to find somewhere else that I'll be in a happier mood in after 18.
I play there a bit because that's where we decided to get a social membership for the pool, and then I get a gym and driving range to go with. Plus like 8 deeply discounted rounds per year if I want.
Like I said, if I could break 100 at Tetherow then I'm happy. -
I need to go play it at some point as part of my list of Top 100 Public courses to be able to playBob_C said:
Bay Hill has been tough now for a fewe years. -9 on a par 72 is no joke and it's been even tougher in recent years I believe.Tequilla said:Really good finish today ...
You never really think of Bay Hill as being one of the toughest tests on tour but it had everybody playing defensive today.
Bay Hill kind of blows from an architecture standpoint, and is a course that I have no interest in playing. But I'd easily rather watch these guys struggle than watch them stop 5i's on a dime.
It's always an interesting thing when you play these high end courses (particularly ones that are played on Tour) to get a good perspective of the shots that are played and required. I played TPC San Antonio where the Texas Open is about a month or so ago ... can definitely see/understand some of the shots that the players play but as a whole the course wasn't what I'd call overly memorable.
As a general rule I like courses designed by The King as he tends to reward you for hitting good shots ... that's kind of how I view Bay Hill. -
I can't wait until you grow up and start hitting drivers like a big boy and your attitude changes a bit.YellowSnow said:
None of this really matters to me personally speaking. I'll never be a serious enough golfer to worry about Tetherow fucking with my handicap.Tequilla said:
Don't get me started on Tetherow ...Bob_C said:
Yeah that's a beast of a course. Played there a few years ago and hit a few that I thought were perfect and just gone. Definitely not a bomb and gouge place.YellowSnow said:
Yup. My 2023 life goal is to break 100 at Tetherow.Bob_C said:
Is that Tetherow?YellowSnow said:
I don't disagree with the logic here. I need to buy a modern, forgiving driver and learn to hit it.chuck said:
I have a friend who can routinely crush it 300 yards but isn't consistently accurate. He's still usually in play and in wedge range though. What cracks me up is how he'll pick some odd hole to "play it safe" with his three iron. 81% of his iron tee shots are 100 yards shorter than his driver and in the rough, if he's lucky. It's comical.Bob_C said:
So true. Unless there's a crazy dogleg or a hazard that cuts through the fairway or something, I hit driver. Not because I've got a big dick or anything, but mostly because the sweet spot is so big now compared to a 3w or long iron. Better chance of hitting it straight and on the face than those other options.chuck said:
Modern drivers are the easiest club in the bag to hit Yella. If my iron play, which I work on a lot, came close to my driving, which I never work on except during rounds, I'd be a scratch golfer.YellowSnow said:Should I learn to hit a driver in 2023? This is the question.
Get one and figure it out. I'd look for one of the previous year's Taylor Mades, M series or Sim, to avoid spending $400+ on a club that you don't think you can hit
But my 5 iron goes about 170 yds with an easy tall guy swing and generally hits the fairway. I'll take 170 in the fairway vs 240 in the rough every time.
Also, the rough at my course is fucking brutal. Here's the 1st tee. @Tequilla can confirm.
I've played over 60 courses located on Golf Digest's Top 100 Public Course listing dating back to the 2005 list or whatnot (there's less than 200 courses total on that list that are still operating and/or still public and/or if private I played them when they were still public).
Tetherow is BY FAR at the bottom 3 or 5 of the courses that I've played on the list. The design of the course is largely fine but the course is way too rough around the edges for someone playing the course here and there. I've hit good shots there that just ended up terribly . A buddy of mine had about a 25 foot birdie putt, proceeded to putt it off the green (nobody thought he hit a bad putt) and it went down the false front about 40 yards ... he ended up picking up his ball after about 3 chips came back to his feet.
If I'm in Bend I'll play Tetherow out of respect to Yellow Pisser provided I'm playing with him. That said, there are plenty of other courses in the area that I like far better at equal or more favorable prices.
On another note Pisser, I need you to find someone who is a member at Brasada Ranch (Canyons) as that's pretty much the only course that I haven't played in Bend (excluding Silvies Ranch) that is public or semi-private. If I'm going to play Tetherow with you we've got to find somewhere else that I'll be in a happier mood in after 18.
I play there a bit because that's where we decided to get a social membership for the pool, and then I get a gym and driving range to go with. Plus like 8 deeply discounted rounds per year if I want.
Like I said, if I could break 100 at Tetherow then I'm happy.
That said, I'm proud of the progress that you've made. I remember all of the talks about you getting into the game, etc. ... definitely not the easiest sport to pick up later in life and maintain the patience to get better at it. -
My home course is an Arnie design. There is serious reward for hitting good shots and you get big time penalties if you screw up. But it's not a PGA tour level course and relies on the greens running fast to play super tough.Tequilla said:
I need to go play it at some point as part of my list of Top 100 Public courses to be able to playBob_C said:
Bay Hill has been tough now for a fewe years. -9 on a par 72 is no joke and it's been even tougher in recent years I believe.Tequilla said:Really good finish today ...
You never really think of Bay Hill as being one of the toughest tests on tour but it had everybody playing defensive today.
Bay Hill kind of blows from an architecture standpoint, and is a course that I have no interest in playing. But I'd easily rather watch these guys struggle than watch them stop 5i's on a dime.
It's always an interesting thing when you play these high end courses (particularly ones that are played on Tour) to get a good perspective of the shots that are played and required. I played TPC San Antonio where the Texas Open is about a month or so ago ... can definitely see/understand some of the shots that the players play but as a whole the course wasn't what I'd call overly memorable.
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I had the round of my life on an Arnie course up by the Canadian border
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Mine was at Sunland in 1993. Shot an 83, which is my best ever.RaceBannon said:I had the round of my life on an Arnie course up by the Canadian border
Also, as a teenager I was even par after 7 holes at a course in Reno, and my dad and uncle pulled us off the course due to a lightening storm. I pitched a little tantrum -
About 15 years ago, I was playing Bellevue Muni with some friends from out of town. It was sloppy (rain), and as we teed off it got worse. I was 2 under at the turn, and we had debated quitting several tims, only to have it lighten up in the moment. We went off the back, and it became a downpour after 3-4 holes. We decided to play one more hole, a par 3. I stuffed it to about 3 feet, and after draining the birdie, looked to the heavens and screamed "RATFART"...DerekJohnson said:
Mine was at Sunland in 1993. Shot an 83, which is my best ever.RaceBannon said:I had the round of my life on an Arnie course up by the Canadian border
Also, as a teenager I was even par after 7 holes at a course in Reno, and my dad and uncle pulled us off the course due to a lightening storm. I pitched a little tantrum
Yeah, it was a wet, easy track and I had good wedge game, but still...As close as I ever got to shooting par.
Post-game...
https://youtu.be/DEKyx_eTxBQ
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Lift clean and place?Fishpo31 said:
About 15 years ago, I was playing Bellevue Muni with some friends from out of town. It was sloppy (rain), and as we teed off it got worse. I was 2 under at the turn, and we had debated quitting several tims, only to have it lighten up in the moment. We went off the back, and it became a downpour after 3-4 holes. We decided to play one more hole, a par 3. I stuffed it to about 3 feet, and after draining the birdie, looked to the heavens and screamed "RATFART"...DerekJohnson said:
Mine was at Sunland in 1993. Shot an 83, which is my best ever.RaceBannon said:I had the round of my life on an Arnie course up by the Canadian border
Also, as a teenager I was even par after 7 holes at a course in Reno, and my dad and uncle pulled us off the course due to a lightening storm. I pitched a little tantrum
Yeah, it was a wet, easy track and I had good wedge game, but still...As close as I ever got to shooting par.
Post-game...https://youtu.be/DEKyx_eTxBQ -
My group plays it as it lies…Bob_C said:
Lift clean and place?Fishpo31 said:
About 15 years ago, I was playing Bellevue Muni with some friends from out of town. It was sloppy (rain), and as we teed off it got worse. I was 2 under at the turn, and we had debated quitting several tims, only to have it lighten up in the moment. We went off the back, and it became a downpour after 3-4 holes. We decided to play one more hole, a par 3. I stuffed it to about 3 feet, and after draining the birdie, looked to the heavens and screamed "RATFART"...DerekJohnson said:
Mine was at Sunland in 1993. Shot an 83, which is my best ever.RaceBannon said:I had the round of my life on an Arnie course up by the Canadian border
Also, as a teenager I was even par after 7 holes at a course in Reno, and my dad and uncle pulled us off the course due to a lightening storm. I pitched a little tantrum
Yeah, it was a wet, easy track and I had good wedge game, but still...As close as I ever got to shooting par.
Post-game...https://youtu.be/DEKyx_eTxBQ
I don’t want to give the impression that I’m a great golfer, that round was my shot at “immorality”…those guysm still occasionally refer to me as “the Bishop”…
