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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,930 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:



    A tradition of excellence!

    I want to believe that the Seattle pipeline is worth it but when you step back and look at it, its a bunch of point and shooting guards with a few quality bigs sprinkled in here and there. Then keeping the bigs has been a struggle, or they don't really pan out, and if they do pan out they are one and done. If the area was producing big after big I'd say it would be more desirable. Seattle basketball culture is great, but being honest about what it produces, you temper your expectations.

    Since Romar became head coach, the only local players (that I can think of) that stayed at UW and were drafted, that were above the average NBA height of 6'6 are Jon Brockman, Jaden McDaniels and Spencer Hawes.

    If only coaches were allowed to recruit outside of their owen metro area.

    Having the Seattle guard/wing pipeline is at least 2/3 of a great program. A decent coach should be able to recruit and/or develop the other 1/3
    Oh I know, but I'm taking a realistic look at the situation locally. I also don't have a lot of faith in the AD to do an extensive search, or as others have pointed out, find the guy who will come in and make UW competitive almost every year.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,930 Swaye's Wigwam



    A tradition of excellence!

    I want to believe that the Seattle pipeline is worth it but when you step back and look at it, its a bunch of point and shooting guards with a few quality bigs sprinkled in here and there. Then keeping the bigs has been a struggle, or they don't really pan out, and if they do pan out they are one and done. If the area was producing big after big I'd say it would be more desirable. Seattle basketball culture is great, but being honest about what it produces, you temper your expectations.

    Since Romar became head coach, the only local players (that I can think of) that stayed at UW and were drafted, that were above the average NBA height of 6'6 are Jon Brockman, Jaden McDaniels and Spencer Hawes.

    Long ago and far away James Edwards played for UW and Jawan Oldham went to Seattle U. Bigs that had NBA careeers. UW couldn't get the Cleveland High guys to go to UW to play with Edwards

    Since that time it has been smalls and we? always let enough get away to not have a juggernaut

    Edwards accepted a basketball scholarship from the hometown University of Washington, to play under coach Marv Harshman. As a freshman, he took over the starting duties at center, averaging 6.8 points and 4.6 rebounds per contest. As a sophomore, he registered 12.3 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.

    As a junior in the 1975–76 1974-1975 season, he averaged 17.6 points (led the team) and 7.1 rebounds (second on the team) per game. He also contributed to the team having a 22–6 record, qualifying for the school's first NCAA basketball tournament appearance since 1953 and finishing the regular season ranked No. 11. This was also the last team to defeat (103–81) a John Wooden squad, as the legendary coach would retire after the season, having won his 10th National Championship.

    As a senior in the 1976–1977 season, he led the team with 20.9 points and 10.4 rebounds, but the squad failed to qualify for the NCAA basketball tournament with a 17–10 overall record. He received All-American honors. He finished his college career with an average of 14.6 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.[1]

    In 1990, he was inducted into the University of Washington Husky Hall of Fame. In 2015, he was inducted into the State of Washington Sports Hall of Fame.[2]

    Best Husky team ever IMO

    And it was 74-75 because Wooden retired after winning the 75 tourney. NC State won in 74 and Bobby Knight was perfect in 76 coaching the motherless whore


    I used to THINK and CARE about college basketball
    I'm very familiar with Mr. Edwards. Anyone who leads #myteds to a state title is an instant legend. People forget he was a starter on those bad boys teams in Detroit.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club



    There was a sweep in the desert - wonder if it will change things

    Stanford and Cal this week. Get swept there and could I see this being it for him.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,379 Founders Club



    A tradition of excellence!

    I want to believe that the Seattle pipeline is worth it but when you step back and look at it, its a bunch of point and shooting guards with a few quality bigs sprinkled in here and there. Then keeping the bigs has been a struggle, or they don't really pan out, and if they do pan out they are one and done. If the area was producing big after big I'd say it would be more desirable. Seattle basketball culture is great, but being honest about what it produces, you temper your expectations.

    Since Romar became head coach, the only local players (that I can think of) that stayed at UW and were drafted, that were above the average NBA height of 6'6 are Jon Brockman, Jaden McDaniels and Spencer Hawes.

    Long ago and far away James Edwards played for UW and Jawan Oldham went to Seattle U. Bigs that had NBA careeers. UW couldn't get the Cleveland High guys to go to UW to play with Edwards

    Since that time it has been smalls and we? always let enough get away to not have a juggernaut

    Edwards accepted a basketball scholarship from the hometown University of Washington, to play under coach Marv Harshman. As a freshman, he took over the starting duties at center, averaging 6.8 points and 4.6 rebounds per contest. As a sophomore, he registered 12.3 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.

    As a junior in the 1975–76 1974-1975 season, he averaged 17.6 points (led the team) and 7.1 rebounds (second on the team) per game. He also contributed to the team having a 22–6 record, qualifying for the school's first NCAA basketball tournament appearance since 1953 and finishing the regular season ranked No. 11. This was also the last team to defeat (103–81) a John Wooden squad, as the legendary coach would retire after the season, having won his 10th National Championship.

    As a senior in the 1976–1977 season, he led the team with 20.9 points and 10.4 rebounds, but the squad failed to qualify for the NCAA basketball tournament with a 17–10 overall record. He received All-American honors. He finished his college career with an average of 14.6 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.[1]

    In 1990, he was inducted into the University of Washington Husky Hall of Fame. In 2015, he was inducted into the State of Washington Sports Hall of Fame.[2]

    Best Husky team ever IMO

    And it was 74-75 because Wooden retired after winning the 75 tourney. NC State won in 74 and Bobby Knight was perfect in 76 coaching the motherless whore


    I used to THINK and CARE about college basketball
    James Edwards was also a member of the Chicago Bulls 1995-96 World Champs 72-10
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066



    A tradition of excellence!

    I want to believe that the Seattle pipeline is worth it but when you step back and look at it, its a bunch of point and shooting guards with a few quality bigs sprinkled in here and there. Then keeping the bigs has been a struggle, or they don't really pan out, and if they do pan out they are one and done. If the area was producing big after big I'd say it would be more desirable. Seattle basketball culture is great, but being honest about what it produces, you temper your expectations.

    Since Romar became head coach, the only local players (that I can think of) that stayed at UW and were drafted, that were above the average NBA height of 6'6 are Jon Brockman, Jaden McDaniels and Spencer Hawes.

    Long ago and far away James Edwards played for UW and Jawan Oldham went to Seattle U. Bigs that had NBA careeers. UW couldn't get the Cleveland High guys to go to UW to play with Edwards

    Since that time it has been smalls and we? always let enough get away to not have a juggernaut

    Edwards accepted a basketball scholarship from the hometown University of Washington, to play under coach Marv Harshman. As a freshman, he took over the starting duties at center, averaging 6.8 points and 4.6 rebounds per contest. As a sophomore, he registered 12.3 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.

    As a junior in the 1975–76 1974-1975 season, he averaged 17.6 points (led the team) and 7.1 rebounds (second on the team) per game. He also contributed to the team having a 22–6 record, qualifying for the school's first NCAA basketball tournament appearance since 1953 and finishing the regular season ranked No. 11. This was also the last team to defeat (103–81) a John Wooden squad, as the legendary coach would retire after the season, having won his 10th National Championship.

    As a senior in the 1976–1977 season, he led the team with 20.9 points and 10.4 rebounds, but the squad failed to qualify for the NCAA basketball tournament with a 17–10 overall record. He received All-American honors. He finished his college career with an average of 14.6 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.[1]

    In 1990, he was inducted into the University of Washington Husky Hall of Fame. In 2015, he was inducted into the State of Washington Sports Hall of Fame.[2]

    Best Husky team ever IMO

    And it was 74-75 because Wooden retired after winning the 75 tourney. NC State won in 74 and Bobby Knight was perfect in 76 coaching the motherless whore


    I used to THINK and CARE about college basketball
    I thought UW got Richard Woods and Oldham/Ervin went to Seattle U?

    People forget Cleveland only beat Steve Madsen (UW) and Lincoln by 1 point to win their 2nd state title.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,881 Founders Club



    A tradition of excellence!

    I want to believe that the Seattle pipeline is worth it but when you step back and look at it, its a bunch of point and shooting guards with a few quality bigs sprinkled in here and there. Then keeping the bigs has been a struggle, or they don't really pan out, and if they do pan out they are one and done. If the area was producing big after big I'd say it would be more desirable. Seattle basketball culture is great, but being honest about what it produces, you temper your expectations.

    Since Romar became head coach, the only local players (that I can think of) that stayed at UW and were drafted, that were above the average NBA height of 6'6 are Jon Brockman, Jaden McDaniels and Spencer Hawes.

    Long ago and far away James Edwards played for UW and Jawan Oldham went to Seattle U. Bigs that had NBA careeers. UW couldn't get the Cleveland High guys to go to UW to play with Edwards

    Since that time it has been smalls and we? always let enough get away to not have a juggernaut

    Edwards accepted a basketball scholarship from the hometown University of Washington, to play under coach Marv Harshman. As a freshman, he took over the starting duties at center, averaging 6.8 points and 4.6 rebounds per contest. As a sophomore, he registered 12.3 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.

    As a junior in the 1975–76 1974-1975 season, he averaged 17.6 points (led the team) and 7.1 rebounds (second on the team) per game. He also contributed to the team having a 22–6 record, qualifying for the school's first NCAA basketball tournament appearance since 1953 and finishing the regular season ranked No. 11. This was also the last team to defeat (103–81) a John Wooden squad, as the legendary coach would retire after the season, having won his 10th National Championship.

    As a senior in the 1976–1977 season, he led the team with 20.9 points and 10.4 rebounds, but the squad failed to qualify for the NCAA basketball tournament with a 17–10 overall record. He received All-American honors. He finished his college career with an average of 14.6 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.[1]

    In 1990, he was inducted into the University of Washington Husky Hall of Fame. In 2015, he was inducted into the State of Washington Sports Hall of Fame.[2]

    Best Husky team ever IMO

    And it was 74-75 because Wooden retired after winning the 75 tourney. NC State won in 74 and Bobby Knight was perfect in 76 coaching the motherless whore


    I used to THINK and CARE about college basketball
    I thought UW got Richard Woods and Oldham/Ervin went to Seattle U?

    People forget Cleveland only beat Steve Madsen (UW) and Lincoln by 1 point to win their 2nd state title.

    Seattle U won that deal
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066



    A tradition of excellence!

    I want to believe that the Seattle pipeline is worth it but when you step back and look at it, its a bunch of point and shooting guards with a few quality bigs sprinkled in here and there. Then keeping the bigs has been a struggle, or they don't really pan out, and if they do pan out they are one and done. If the area was producing big after big I'd say it would be more desirable. Seattle basketball culture is great, but being honest about what it produces, you temper your expectations.

    Since Romar became head coach, the only local players (that I can think of) that stayed at UW and were drafted, that were above the average NBA height of 6'6 are Jon Brockman, Jaden McDaniels and Spencer Hawes.

    Long ago and far away James Edwards played for UW and Jawan Oldham went to Seattle U. Bigs that had NBA careeers. UW couldn't get the Cleveland High guys to go to UW to play with Edwards

    Since that time it has been smalls and we? always let enough get away to not have a juggernaut

    Edwards accepted a basketball scholarship from the hometown University of Washington, to play under coach Marv Harshman. As a freshman, he took over the starting duties at center, averaging 6.8 points and 4.6 rebounds per contest. As a sophomore, he registered 12.3 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.

    As a junior in the 1975–76 1974-1975 season, he averaged 17.6 points (led the team) and 7.1 rebounds (second on the team) per game. He also contributed to the team having a 22–6 record, qualifying for the school's first NCAA basketball tournament appearance since 1953 and finishing the regular season ranked No. 11. This was also the last team to defeat (103–81) a John Wooden squad, as the legendary coach would retire after the season, having won his 10th National Championship.

    As a senior in the 1976–1977 season, he led the team with 20.9 points and 10.4 rebounds, but the squad failed to qualify for the NCAA basketball tournament with a 17–10 overall record. He received All-American honors. He finished his college career with an average of 14.6 points and 7.5 rebounds per game.[1]

    In 1990, he was inducted into the University of Washington Husky Hall of Fame. In 2015, he was inducted into the State of Washington Sports Hall of Fame.[2]

    Best Husky team ever IMO

    And it was 74-75 because Wooden retired after winning the 75 tourney. NC State won in 74 and Bobby Knight was perfect in 76 coaching the motherless whore


    I used to THINK and CARE about college basketball
    I thought UW got Richard Woods and Oldham/Ervin went to Seattle U?

    People forget Cleveland only beat Steve Madsen (UW) and Lincoln by 1 point to win their 2nd state title.

    Seattle U won that deal
    Eli Carter and I agree.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    Well, Cal choked this away and so Kim and Hop got the magical Bay area sweep they needed.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,614 Standard Supporter
    I believe we're 10-8 or something now. Unfortunately, if they win just enough gaymes (15-18) Hopkins keeps his job.

    The stands were empty today except for the Dawg pack, and they probably bribed them with donuts or something. Some of it was the Seahawks, but I get the impression that noone cares. I still don't know how he won the PAC 12 four years ago. Even this Doog I know knows it's a joke at this point. As usual, the trans softball team is probably a bigger priority.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,123
    haie said:

    Well, Cal choked this away and so Kim and Hop got the magical Bay area sweep they needed.

    Like the cal game ;)?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,066
    Cal is beyond shitty.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    I believe we're 10-8 or something now. Unfortunately, if they win just enough gaymes (15-18) Hopkins keeps his job.

    The stands were empty today except for the Dawg pack, and they probably bribed them with donuts or something. Some of it was the Seahawks, but I get the impression that noone cares. I still don't know how he won the PAC 12 four years ago. Even this Doog I know knows it's a joke at this point. As usual, the trans softball team is probably a bigger priority.

    The stands looked pretty good on TV for how much of a shit product it is to have 3 guards pass it around for 25 seconds and then go drive into 2-3 defenders and force a shot that only the top 30-40 NBA guards can typically make.

    Plus watching NBA distance 3's from shooters who apparently don't practice shooting.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,614 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    I believe we're 10-8 or something now. Unfortunately, if they win just enough gaymes (15-18) Hopkins keeps his job.

    The stands were empty today except for the Dawg pack, and they probably bribed them with donuts or something. Some of it was the Seahawks, but I get the impression that noone cares. I still don't know how he won the PAC 12 four years ago. Even this Doog I know knows it's a joke at this point. As usual, the trans softball team is probably a bigger priority.

    The stands looked pretty good on TV for how much of a shit product it is to have 3 guards pass it around for 25 seconds and then go drive into 2-3 defenders and force a shot that only the top 30-40 NBA guards can typically make.

    Plus watching NBA distance 3's from shooters who apparently don't practice shooting.
    modern basketball
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,509
    Per Kim, Hopkins just needs more tim

    "They get everybody back and add a shooter. Franck with Meah changes a lot. I know they're going to do everything they can to bring Brooks back.

    They should be very, very good next year. Play it out with that roster. If you can't make the tournament with that lineup, then you need to make a tough decision.

    I want to see a full season with that roster"
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    edited January 2023

    Per Kim, Hopkins just needs more tim

    "They get everybody back and add a shooter. Franck with Meah changes a lot. I know they're going to do everything they can to bring Brooks back.

    They should be very, very good next year. Play it out with that roster. If you can't make the tournament with that lineup, then you need to make a tough decision.

    I want to see a full season with that roster"

    Yeah Kim, let's see how he is next year.

    Getting prison raped by a bunch of white guys and the Utah State coach is fucking LIPO territory. Fucking asshole.

    Need to let this guy drink fancy coffee and party with his players in the zone for another year and see how it goes.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,633 Founders Club

    Per Kim, Hopkins just needs more tim

    "They get everybody back and add a shooter. Franck with Meah changes a lot. I know they're going to do everything they can to bring Brooks back.

    They should be very, very good next year. Play it out with that roster. If you can't make the tournament with that lineup, then you need to make a tough decision.

    I want to see a full season with that roster"

    Brooks ain’t coming back and I wouldn’t be shocked if Menifield transfers back to the Big 10. I could also see Fuller giving up on Hopkins as he’s been passed by Johnson. Meah is probably staying because he has a relationship with Pondexter or I’d think a bigger program would like his size and athleticism in their rotation. The problem with this team is that it has no identity. The 2/3 zone is an antiquated primary defense in the day and age of players 1-5 being able to shoot threes. Even Beohiem can’t win big with the zone anymore. They are one of the least efficient offenses in America year after year. It’s a total mess. The last thing this program needs is another year of Hopkins but they’ll get it and another 14-16 win season will be what they get.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,633 Founders Club
    Give me Koren Johnson, Wesley Yates and Menifield running Randy Bennett’s offense with a bunch of Aussie bigs. That would be fun to watch.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    Give me Koren Johnson, Wesley Yates and Menifield running Randy Bennett’s offense with a bunch of Aussie bigs. That would be fun to watch.

    There is nothing fun about watching st Mary’s. They do finish in the top half 3 of their league a lot though. I would never watch until the tourney. Boring AF.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,633 Founders Club

    Give me Koren Johnson, Wesley Yates and Menifield running Randy Bennett’s offense with a bunch of Aussie bigs. That would be fun to watch.

    There is nothing fun about watching st Mary’s. They do finish in the top half 3 of their league a lot though. I would never watch until the tourney. Boring AF.
    Any offensive system that can get five under recruited white guys to score 72ppg is pretty good. Johnson, Menifield and Yates running it with the stretch fours and fives that St. Mary’s always finds would look and run different.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    haie said:

    Per Kim, Hopkins just needs more tim

    "They get everybody back and add a shooter. Franck with Meah changes a lot. I know they're going to do everything they can to bring Brooks back.

    They should be very, very good next year. Play it out with that roster. If you can't make the tournament with that lineup, then you need to make a tough decision.

    I want to see a full season with that roster"

    Yeah Kim, let's see how he is next year.

    Getting prison raped by a bunch of white guys and the Utah State coach is fucking LIPO territory. Fucking asshole.

    Need to let this guy drink fancy coffee and party with his players in the zone for another year and see how it goes.
    An unbelievably quintessential Kim poster. Right down to the "I know they're going to do everything they can."