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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,696 Founders Club

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    I've been spending three days a week in Spokane smashing that point into the face of the branch. It's a process. It's hard

    But DeBoer does have a proven process. Like me he's a winner.
    He has a process in the glorified high school division. Was OK at FSU, 9-5 conference record. He is in his 3rd year as a power 5 head coach. LIPO.
    Fresneck is not a power 5 program. HTH.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    I've been spending three days a week in Spokane smashing that point into the face of the branch. It's a process. It's hard

    But DeBoer does have a proven process. Like me he's a winner.
    He has a process in the glorified high school division. Was OK at FSU, 9-5 conference record. He is in his 3rd year as a power 5 head coach. LIPO.
    Fresneck is not a power 5 program. HTH.
    That was poorly worded. But the calcification makes is even more reason to a LIPO.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Doogles said:

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    It's fair to question if the next man up will be as good as Penix, odds are he won't lead the nation in passing.

    But it's important to remember that Penix was bad/awful without Deboer and was ranked a 3 star transfer. Nobody was knocking on his door to play.

    Also watch the game with your eyes and it's obvious the routes and multiple looks are scheming guys open.
    It’s going to be interesting. Either way.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    The process is that DeBoer has always had great offenses and he needs to figure it the fuck out with the talent and coaching on defense. It’s not like this team is his ideal team.
    Sounds like he needs time to get his guys in there.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    edited November 2022
    Doogles said:

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    It's fair to question if the next man up will be as good as Penix, odds are he won't lead the nation in passing.

    But it's important to remember that Penix was bad/awful without Deboer and was ranked a 3 star transfer. Nobody was knocking on his door to play.

    Also watch the game with your eyes and it's obvious the routes and multiple looks are scheming guys open.
    Same thing at Fresno. WR's were open all the time. He unleashed the little stud in Haener with all the route concepts.

    I think the key is at RB however, because the next QB won't be able to carry the team like Penix.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,900

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    The process is that DeBoer has always had great offenses and he needs to figure it the fuck out with the talent and coaching on defense. It’s not like this team is his ideal team.
    Thats why I personally have not anointed him
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    Canadawg said:

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    The process is that DeBoer has always had great offenses and he needs to figure it the fuck out with the talent and coaching on defense. It’s not like this team is his ideal team.
    Thats why I personally have not anointed him
    It's a good point, he has no defensive tree in CFB and struggled to hire decent people in the offseason.

    However, even if Sark has good DC's he loses.

    HC's are the ones who coach programs to wins, sometimes in spite of poor staff.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,503 Founders Club
    He's as old as I am. And he sucked until

    Canadawg said:

    whlinder said:



    Due to clock mismanagement at the end of the game I poasted that. Outcomes matter. So does process.

    I would like a Damone Doog rating plz
    The process matters most. Get that right and wins follow. Have a shitty process and you win games with a late interception off an Arizona players foot and think you coached a masterful game.

    Have a shitty process, but luck out with a QB named Tui, have a bunch of big comeback wins, go to the rose bowl and pop off, but in reality your’re a 7-6 coach. Eventually patterns emerge. It takes time.

    Is Penix DeBoer’s Tui? I’m not saying he is, I’m saying I don’t know. But we have seen it before.
    The process is that DeBoer has always had great offenses and he needs to figure it the fuck out with the talent and coaching on defense. It’s not like this team is his ideal team.
    Thats why I personally have not anointed him
    It's a good point, he has no defensive tree in CFB and struggled to hire decent people in the offseason.

    However, even if Sark has good DC's he loses.

    HC's are the ones who coach programs to wins, sometimes in spite of poor staff.
    Texas has two full lines of 300 pound top notch D linemen. Kwat is great when he has that kind of talent up front

    And yet Texas still folds and gives up yards and points in the 2nd half and loses