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As long as Washington's pathetic fanbase continues to accept mediocrity, they'll keep getting 7-6. And since they continue to accept said mediocrity, they really deserve another 0-12.
My sense at the time of Tyrone's 0-12 masterpiece is that UW's "pathetic" fanbase was very close to cratering or coogin-it in 2008 and perhaps going from 40,000 to 10,000 or less season ticket sales the following Spring had not Willingham been fired. The simple act of UW replacing the 4-year fraud with anyone kept a lot of us pathetics who were then in almost total burnout mode around for one more season. And voila! Jake Locker with a QB coach (what a concept!) rejuvenated enough excitement to keep us wasting our hard-earned coin awhile longer until UW regents shockingly stepped up to a $250M stadium renovation after demurring for twenty plus years. And here we are in 2013 purchasing perhaps 50,000 season tickets or more and working on getting even more pathetic by expecting 9 wins instead of Sark's customary 7. Why not expect 11 or 12? -
Look, at hardcore Husky we pride ourselves out here as having the most passionate and knowledgeable subscribers out there. There are a lot of really bright people out here. We've all heard those guys on dm.com who post. scream, rant, go off, and sound like they have a beard, wear a tank top, had 4 beers and a Red Bull. Nobody hears a word they say other than they're just crazy.Tailgater said:As long as Washington's pathetic fanbase continues to accept mediocrity, they'll keep getting 7-6. And since they continue to accept said mediocrity, they really deserve another 0-12.
My sense at the time of Tyrone's 0-12 masterpiece is that UW's "pathetic" fanbase was very close to cratering or coogin-it in 2008 and perhaps going from 40,000 to 10,000 or less season ticket sales the following Spring had not Willingham been fired. The simple act of UW replacing the 4-year fraud with anyone kept a lot of us pathetics who were then in almost total burnout mode around for one more season. And voila! Jake Locker with a QB coach (what a concept!) rejuvenated enough excitement to keep us wasting our hard-earned coin awhile longer until UW regents shockingly stepped up to a $250M stadium renovation after demurring for twenty plus years. And here we are in 2013 purchasing perhaps 50,000 season tickets or more and working on getting even more pathetic by expecting 9 wins instead of Sark's customary 7. Why not expect 11 or 12?
Don't be that guy out here. If sark doesn't improve this year, his seat will get hot. I don't think there's any question about that. Those who post he needs to win 7 games or he gets fired, the no excuses mantra, .........put on a shirt, put down the beer and no more caffine while posting here. If you can't......there's always the vent board -
Some of you like to jump to conclusions
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The tolerating of mediocrity is what happens AFTER you go 1-11 and 0-12.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
As long as Washington's pathetic fanbase continues to accept mediocrity, they'll keep getting 7-6. And since they continue to accept said mediocrity, they really deserve another 0-12.RoadDawg55 said:
Fuck that. Too much is made of UW's pathetic fanbase. Just like in any walk of life, the majority are going to be idiots. That's just the way the world is, but another 0-12 would torture my soul. 7-6 is bad enough as it is.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Morons like you didn't learn from the first 0-12, which is why UW needs and thoroughly deserves another one.ACSlaterDawg said:
Is 0-12 the only thing that makes you hard? You bring it up more than Cougs and Ducks combined.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Tailgater said:The logo has just been placed at the 50 yard-line and as expected, the southside (yeh) got the "W" while the northside (boo) gets the "M". Just to be picky which is what Dawgs are, why can't Husky Stadium afford two logos on the new field turf, one for each sideline? Do we need to come up with some symbolic meaning for the "M"....... such as Meat or Montlake? Mediocre, Monster, Middling.......... any ideas?
Posts like this remind me why it is so important for another well deserved 0-12 to happen as soon as possible.
And how has the fanbase tolerated it? It actually hasn't because after 2003 season attendance plummeted and it hasn't come back. If anyone deserves blame its boosters like Fleenor, Crockett, Dempsey, that allowed Turner to be AD and Gilby and Willingham to be hired.
And guess what? When you win 1 or 0 games, how can you expect to hire a top flight coach? You can't. Sark was Woodie's 5th or 6th choice. They tried to get other guys (offered Muschamp) but they weren't interested. Tedford in 04 said he didn't want another rebuilding job. Even if you offer a good guy $10M, he's does not want a fucking rebuilding project.
Sark has been a decent transitional coach and has 1-2 years left to show if he can be a championship coach or not. They've given him a blank check to get top flight assistants and now they've given him a new stadium. The good news is now the UW job would attract top flight coaches and they've given Sark everything he needs, therefore making it easier to fire him.
And no school would fucking fire a coach that goes 5-7-7-7, following 1-2-5-4-0. That's just not feasible pal, at least not until year 5 or 6. But, given that they gave him a blank check to get new coaches and a new stadium, its clear they want to be successful and compete for championships and won't tolerate mediocrity for long.
Keep parroting your 0-12 and outdated talking points douchefuck. They may give the high priests here a hardon but they aren't based on any reality.
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ACSlaterDawg said:
The tolerating of mediocrity is what happens AFTER you go 1-11 and 0-12.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
As long as Washington's pathetic fanbase continues to accept mediocrity, they'll keep getting 7-6. And since they continue to accept said mediocrity, they really deserve another 0-12.RoadDawg55 said:
Fuck that. Too much is made of UW's pathetic fanbase. Just like in any walk of life, the majority are going to be idiots. That's just the way the world is, but another 0-12 would torture my soul. 7-6 is bad enough as it is.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Morons like you didn't learn from the first 0-12, which is why UW needs and thoroughly deserves another one.ACSlaterDawg said:
Is 0-12 the only thing that makes you hard? You bring it up more than Cougs and Ducks combined.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Tailgater said:The logo has just been placed at the 50 yard-line and as expected, the southside (yeh) got the "W" while the northside (boo) gets the "M". Just to be picky which is what Dawgs are, why can't Husky Stadium afford two logos on the new field turf, one for each sideline? Do we need to come up with some symbolic meaning for the "M"....... such as Meat or Montlake? Mediocre, Monster, Middling.......... any ideas?
Posts like this remind me why it is so important for another well deserved 0-12 to happen as soon as possible.
And how has the fanbase tolerated it? It actually hasn't because after 2003 season attendance plummeted and it hasn't come back. If anyone deserves blame its boosters like Fleenor, Crockett, Dempsey, that allowed Turner to be AD and Gilby and Willingham to be hired.
And guess what? When you win 1 or 0 games, how can you expect to hire a top flight coach? You can't. Sark was Woodie's 5th or 6th choice. They tried to get other guys (offered Muschamp) but they weren't interested. Tedford in 04 said he didn't want another rebuilding job. Even if you offer a good guy $10M, he's does not want a fucking rebuilding project.
Sark has been a decent transitional coach and has 1-2 years left to show if he can be a championship coach or not. They've given him a blank check to get top flight assistants and now they've given him a new stadium. The good news is now the UW job would attract top flight coaches and they've given Sark everything he needs, therefore making it easier to fire him.
And no school would fucking fire a coach that goes 5-7-7-7, following 1-2-5-4-0. That's just not feasible pal, at least not until year 5 or 6. But, given that they gave him a blank check to get new coaches and a new stadium, its clear they want to be successful and compete for championships and won't tolerate mediocrity for long.
Keep parroting your 0-12 and outdated talking points douchefuck. They may give the high priests here a hardon but they aren't based on any reality.
So you like to think that the fifth year of mediocrity will somehow disprove everything that came before it? You do that?
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And guess what? When you win 1 or 0 games, how can you expect to hire a top flight coach? You can't.
One of the top 5 greatest doog talking points. Well done, pal. -
One of the top 5 greatest doog talking points. Well done, pal.MikeDamone said:And guess what? When you win 1 or 0 games, how can you expect to hire a top flight coach? You can't.
ACSlaterDoog has obviously never heard of Jim Harbaugh:
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Its not a doog talking point, its pointing out how the state of the program in 08 guaranteed the next coach 5 years. Its recognizing how the AD and fan base would view him. And even hardcore fans would have to give him a B or B+ for the first two years which was enough to guarantee him another 2-3 years. I've already seen enough to know he's not the long-term answer and the sooner he's gone the better. But, given what Woodward has done (new stadium & money for better assistants) its clear expectations are returning to normal.
Saying fans need another 0-12 is not relevant to anything. Many fans have already left. Ultimately, the big money guys need to force Woodward's hand (if there isn't substantial improvement this year) the way they did in 98 after Hedges gave Lambo a vote of confidence. The average fan can't do anything. Its the insiders and money guys who have an impact.
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Fleenor is an inside money guy. #werefucked
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B or B+ over the first couple years? Absolutely not. C is more like it. Mora would have won 8 games that first year, 8-9 the second, with a healthy Polk. If I thought Sark was B+ material I would be fully supporting him.
