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"Who among us has not had that situation?" she continued. "Where you got to wait for approval, and the doctor says, 'Well I don't know if your insurance company is going to cover this.' Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on."
Because National Health isn't going to make you wait.
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National reimbursement. Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours. Cue the anecdotes and likely apocryphal stories in . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1RaceBannon said:https://foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-under-fire-after-promising-to-abolish-private-health-care-plans-thats-not-american
"Who among us has not had that situation?" she continued. "Where you got to wait for approval, and the doctor says, 'Well I don't know if your insurance company is going to cover this.' Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on."
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Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
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If you get a good plan you never have to deal with the health insurer.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
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Congratulations on your obviously very good health.greenblood said:
If you get a good plan you never have to deal with the health insurer.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
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I have Blue Cross and never had any problems. And we have had significant medical expenses. Of course expecting Blue Cross to have the scintillating record of the VA is too much.
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I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option -
A tolerant civil society cannot abide by the free exchange of services and goods between two private individuals. It just can't.RaceBannon said:I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option -
Hondo claims there's no evidence that countries with socialized healthcare have longer waiting periods.RaceBannon said:https://foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-under-fire-after-promising-to-abolish-private-health-care-plans-thats-not-american
"Who among us has not had that situation?" she continued. "Where you got to wait for approval, and the doctor says, 'Well I don't know if your insurance company is going to cover this.' Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on."
Because National Health isn't going to make you wait.
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I've recently had a root canal and crown (cost me $22 out of pocket)HHusky said:
Congratulations on your obviously very good health.greenblood said:
If you get a good plan you never have to deal with the health insurer.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
Went to the doctor recently for pneumonia, paid $200 for the visit because I was below my $1300 deductible, and paid $13 for the antibiotics. Kind of sucks on the $200 doctor visit, but I knew what to expect since I actually read my benefits before I signed up. It's HARD
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My doctor was giving me shit about insurance today. I said we really don't want to go there
70$ cop pay and 60 bucks of pills cash. I think I'm up to 3 or 4 grand a month for insurance thanks to all the fixing that has happened
He's like you're 62 now and you need it. I said I don't need a cabinet full of drugs like you did to my mom because she was old
He also told me I am going to have a stroke so I relented to some high blood pressure medicine
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At least we agree that there’s no system that can just perpetually say Yes to every treatment.RaceBannon said:I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option
I’ve completely missed the “flood of Canadians” to Seattle hospitals. Hyperbole much? -
Once again you nailed something not in question but you missed the part about how in non mandated society you can pay for it yourself something Harris wants to eliminateHHusky said:
At least we agree that there’s no system that can just perpetually say Yes to every treatment.RaceBannon said:I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option
I’ve completely missed the “flood of Canadians” to Seattle hospitals. Hyperbole much?
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62? I think you're doing well since you can remember details of a doctor visit from 40 years agoRaceBannon said:My doctor was giving me shit about insurance today. I said we really don't want to go there
70$ cop pay and 60 bucks of pills cash. I think I'm up to 3 or 4 grand a month for insurance thanks to all the fixing that has happened
He's like you're 62 now and you need it. I said I don't need a cabinet full of drugs like you did to my mom because she was old
He also told me I am going to have a stroke so I relented to some high blood pressure medicine
If I disappear you know why -
HHusky said:
At least we agree that there’s no system that can just perpetually say Yes to every treatment.RaceBannon said:I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option
I’ve completely missed the “flood of Canadians” to Seattle hospitals. Hyperbole much?
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I didn’t miss it. There are arguments for both positions.RaceBannon said:
Once again you nailed something not in question but you missed the part about how in non mandated society you can pay for it yourself something Harris wants to eliminateHHusky said:
At least we agree that there’s no system that can just perpetually say Yes to every treatment.RaceBannon said:I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option
I’ve completely missed the “flood of Canadians” to Seattle hospitals. Hyperbole much?
My wife worked at VM for 20 years
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This is why you're my favorite classy communist. You own itallpurpleallgold said:
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There is only one argument for freedom.HHusky said:
I didn’t miss it. There are arguments for both positions.RaceBannon said:
Once again you nailed something not in question but you missed the part about how in non mandated society you can pay for it yourself something Harris wants to eliminateHHusky said:
At least we agree that there’s no system that can just perpetually say Yes to every treatment.RaceBannon said:I should have the choice to use private insurance and if they say no I should have the choice to pay cash
All of which the storm troopers on the left need to eliminate to take all the money and be worse than insurance
And yes Canadians flood Seattle hospitals due to long waits. And yes government care by definition will have "death panels" just like Insurance does. The difference being there is no other option
I’ve completely missed the “flood of Canadians” to Seattle hospitals. Hyperbole much?
My wife worked at VM for 20 years
I expect your wife encountered Canadians. Our borders are terribly porous, I’m told. Your claim was bigger than that.
There is a reason it is called a mandate. My way leaves you free to enlist in the military and get shitty government healthcare while those of us who choose private insurance or cash are free to do so
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You just informed me in another thread of your desire for a massive expansion of censorship. Limits on freedom exist in every society.
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You just missed the point in another thread by a country fucking mileHHusky said:You just informed me in another thread of your desire for a massive expansion of censorship. Limits on freedom exist in every society.
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Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
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I think there's a HH copypasta for that.RaceBannon said:
You just missed the point in another thread by a country fucking mileHHusky said:You just informed me in another thread of your desire for a massive expansion of censorship. Limits on freedom exist in every society.
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That's in dog years. Uncle @RaceBannon is really 469 years old.greenblood said:
62? I think you're doing well since you can remember details of a doctor visit from 40 years agoRaceBannon said:My doctor was giving me shit about insurance today. I said we really don't want to go there
70$ cop pay and 60 bucks of pills cash. I think I'm up to 3 or 4 grand a month for insurance thanks to all the fixing that has happened
He's like you're 62 now and you need it. I said I don't need a cabinet full of drugs like you did to my mom because she was old
He also told me I am going to have a stroke so I relented to some high blood pressure medicine
If I disappear you know why
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Mine was also awesome until about 2014 and then the price of it skyrocketed. $70 initially, ditched it at $500 a month, it's now well over $1k a month for the same insurance.MikeDamone said:
Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
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And you're youngUW_Doog_Bot said:
Mine was also awesome until about 2014 and then the price of it skyrocketed. $70 initially, ditched it at $500 a month, it's now well over $1k a month for the same insurance.MikeDamone said:
Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
Mine was a "free" as you could get because my employer paid for it. That went out the window
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Luckily my employer stepped up to the plate(privately owned company) and gave us great insurance(for now). $20k bill for my daughter's delivery. Paid $150 total.RaceBannon said:
And you're youngUW_Doog_Bot said:
Mine was also awesome until about 2014 and then the price of it skyrocketed. $70 initially, ditched it at $500 a month, it's now well over $1k a month for the same insurance.MikeDamone said:
Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
Mine was a "free" as you could get because my employer paid for it. That went out the window
All so we could move a few million off of one government program to another and claim victory
Of course, that has effectively locked me into my employer and ended my labor mobility(which I'm sure the president knew when he ponied up for the insurance, smart guy). -
Eh. I think if most owners/executives could do away with healthcare being at all the company's responsibility they wouldUW_Doog_Bot said:
Luckily my employer stepped up to the plate(privately owned company) and gave us great insurance(for now). $20k bill for my daughter's delivery. Paid $150 total.RaceBannon said:
And you're youngUW_Doog_Bot said:
Mine was also awesome until about 2014 and then the price of it skyrocketed. $70 initially, ditched it at $500 a month, it's now well over $1k a month for the same insurance.MikeDamone said:
Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
Mine was a "free" as you could get because my employer paid for it. That went out the window
All so we could move a few million off of one government program to another and claim victory
Of course, that has effectively locked me into my employer and ended my labor mobility(which I'm sure the president knew when he ponied up for the insurance, smart guy). -
Agree completely. I disagree with APAG on piles of shit politically, but I respect the fact that he owns his positions, defends them, and doesn't whine like a bitch all the time like most of the other democratic socialists here.RaceBannon said:
This is why you're my favorite classy communist. You own itallpurpleallgold said:
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A lot of them have. @UW_Doog_Bot and I were worth it. There comes a time when it isn'tPitchfork51 said:
Eh. I think if most owners/executives could do away with healthcare being at all the company's responsibility they wouldUW_Doog_Bot said:
Luckily my employer stepped up to the plate(privately owned company) and gave us great insurance(for now). $20k bill for my daughter's delivery. Paid $150 total.RaceBannon said:
And you're youngUW_Doog_Bot said:
Mine was also awesome until about 2014 and then the price of it skyrocketed. $70 initially, ditched it at $500 a month, it's now well over $1k a month for the same insurance.MikeDamone said:
Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
Mine was a "free" as you could get because my employer paid for it. That went out the window
All so we could move a few million off of one government program to another and claim victory
Of course, that has effectively locked me into my employer and ended my labor mobility(which I'm sure the president knew when he ponied up for the insurance, smart guy).
I used to have the whole family covered and paid for by the boss. If I had stayed there we'd probably go 50/50 on the cost for me alone -
This is exactly why we should go to Medicare for all. Businesses need to find a way to profit more every year. And one way is to cut benefits from their workers.RaceBannon said:
A lot of them have. @UW_Doog_Bot and I were worth it. There comes a time when it isn'tPitchfork51 said:
Eh. I think if most owners/executives could do away with healthcare being at all the company's responsibility they wouldUW_Doog_Bot said:
Luckily my employer stepped up to the plate(privately owned company) and gave us great insurance(for now). $20k bill for my daughter's delivery. Paid $150 total.RaceBannon said:
And you're youngUW_Doog_Bot said:
Mine was also awesome until about 2014 and then the price of it skyrocketed. $70 initially, ditched it at $500 a month, it's now well over $1k a month for the same insurance.MikeDamone said:
Mine was awesome until about 2010. But I didn’t get to keep it.HardlyClothed said:Find me someone that has a good experience dealing with their health insurer
Mine was a "free" as you could get because my employer paid for it. That went out the window
All so we could move a few million off of one government program to another and claim victory
Of course, that has effectively locked me into my employer and ended my labor mobility(which I'm sure the president knew when he ponied up for the insurance, smart guy).
I used to have the whole family covered and paid for by the boss. If I had stayed there we'd probably go 50/50 on the cost for me alone
El oh El at Canadians flooding to hospitals in Seattle. Reminds me of Bob's claim that he sits in the ER for hours with a bunch of illegals.
