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Sevion Morrison, 2020 3* RB, Tulsa (Edison), OK (Offered 1/24/19)

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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    From 2015-2019, per 247, UW has offered 554 PSAs. In that time frame, we've offered 93 kids from Texas, about 17% of total offers. The Huskies signed 106 players from 2015-2019, with only 4 coming from Texas, about 4%.

    2015-2019 signees & offers by in our "region" by state (I'm excluding Idaho, Wyoming, Montana & New Mexico... Not enough FBS prospects) and the hit %:

    AZ: 5/32 = 15%
    CA: 43/252 = 17%
    CO: 0/7 = 0%
    HI: 6/22 = 27%
    NV: 1/12 = 8%
    OR: 5/12 = 41%
    UT: 4/29 = 13%
    WA: 33/34 = 97%

    Except for Colorado, the hit (signee) rate is still higher than in Texas.

    I probably fucked up my math (I was a psychology major) but you get the gist
    Good maff but it only means something if we somehow decide "offers" indicates how much time, energy, etc is spent on those commits.

    I don't believe the total investment in recruiting Texas has been anything close to 17%. I would guess it's a lot closer to the 4%.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Houhusky said:

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    How about just offer the best kids available that fit UW's culture? California doesn't have that many great RB prospects these days. Texas has deeper talent at that position right now.
    Its a waste of resources... Good RBs from Texas are not going to come to UW unless they have some unique prior connection to at least to the west coast.

    UW would struggle to directly recruit against UH, TT, TCU, SMU, or Baylor... Let alone actual big name schools recruiting top tier players like UT, TAMU, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, or Alabama

    USC is busy stabbing itself in the face, UCLA still doesn't care about football, Stanford glow is wearing thin, Arizona schools are stuck in mediocrity... there has never been an easier time for UW to not only lock down its own PNW area but to establish itself in California and Hawaii where kids actually know that its not Washington University from St. Louis that is calling them.

    Shit... WE? are going to lose Sam Adams from fucking Eastside Catholic to TAMU... and you want to spend resources diving into Texas????
    How would you know they won't come here unless the coaches try?

    Prior to building the Poly pipeline UW sucked at recruiting D-lineman. Now they're great at. You have to build that pipeline into Texas to have more success recruiting Texas. No reason they can't do it. Texas has elite football talent and Texas kids want to win. UW is winning. It's a perfect fit if you ask me.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    From 2015-2019, per 247, UW has offered 554 PSAs. In that time frame, we've offered 93 kids from Texas, about 17% of total offers. The Huskies signed 106 players from 2015-2019, with only 4 coming from Texas, about 4%.

    2015-2019 signees & offers by in our "region" by state (I'm excluding Idaho, Wyoming, Montana & New Mexico... Not enough FBS prospects) and the hit %:

    AZ: 5/32 = 15%
    CA: 43/252 = 17%
    CO: 0/7 = 0%
    HI: 6/22 = 27%
    NV: 1/12 = 8%
    OR: 5/12 = 41%
    UT: 4/29 = 13%
    WA: 33/34 = 97%

    Except for Colorado, the hit (signee) rate is still higher than in Texas.

    I probably fucked up my math (I was a psychology major) but you get the gist
    Good maff but it only means something if we somehow decide "offers" indicates how much time, energy, etc is spent on those commits.

    I don't believe the total investment in recruiting Texas has been anything close to 17%. I would guess it's a lot closer to the 4%.
    Bingo. They offer guys early allow some time to gauge interest while expending a minimal amount of effort on them, then either move on or invest fully when it's time for the stretch run (say mid summer or so). People are making way too much of this.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.
  • ToddTurnerLIVES
    ToddTurnerLIVES Member Posts: 438

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    @NorwegianHusky This kid says his fastest 100 meter time is 10.5 and his fastest 40 is 4.4. Don't know what you're watching but like I said he's got burners. I recommend you defer to me for the talent evaluations.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    @NorwegianHusky This kid says his fastest 100 meter time is 10.5 and his fastest 40 is 4.4. Don't know what you're watching but like I said he's got burners. I recommend you defer to me for the talent evaluations.

    StrongArmCobra says she’s 6’6” with a BBC
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited January 2019

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
    The program is beginning to sell itself.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    @NorwegianHusky This kid says his fastest 100 meter time is 10.5 and his fastest 40 is 4.4. Don't know what you're watching but like I said he's got burners. I recommend you defer to me for the talent evaluations.

    StrongArmCobra says she’s 6’6” with a BBC
    Just because you're jealous and don't want it to be true doesn't mean it's not true.
  • TacoSoup
    TacoSoup Member Posts: 148

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    From 2015-2019, per 247, UW has offered 554 PSAs. In that time frame, we've offered 93 kids from Texas, about 17% of total offers. The Huskies signed 106 players from 2015-2019, with only 4 coming from Texas, about 4%.

    2015-2019 signees & offers by in our "region" by state (I'm excluding Idaho, Wyoming, Montana & New Mexico... Not enough FBS prospects) and the hit %:

    AZ: 5/32 = 15%
    CA: 43/252 = 17%
    CO: 0/7 = 0%
    HI: 6/22 = 27%
    NV: 1/12 = 8%
    OR: 5/12 = 41%
    UT: 4/29 = 13%
    WA: 33/34 = 97%

    Except for Colorado, the hit (signee) rate is still higher than in Texas.

    I probably fucked up my math (I was a psychology major) but you get the gist
    Good maff but it only means something if we somehow decide "offers" indicates how much time, energy, etc is spent on those commits.

    I don't believe the total investment in recruiting Texas has been anything close to 17%. I would guess it's a lot closer to the 4%.
    I came from the angle that UW (seemingly) doesn’t throw out offers and the evidence in Texas seems to indicate otherwise.

    I would say in terms of actual time, I agree it’s closer to 4%
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,091

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
    The program is beginning to sell itself.
    Our only commit for ‘20, a 3 🌟 Viking, says hello. Go look at 247’s team rankings for ‘20 and tell me how the program is beginning to sell its self.

  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
    The program is beginning to sell itself.
    Our only commit for ‘20, a 3 🌟 Viking, says hello. Go look at 247’s team rankings for ‘20 and tell me how the program is beginning to sell its self.

    Judging our 2020 class a year before signing day is whack
  • Domicillo
    Domicillo Member Posts: 3,025
    edited January 2019

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
    The program is beginning to sell itself.
    Our only commit for ‘20, a 3 🌟 Viking, says hello. Go look at 247’s team rankings for ‘20 and tell me how the program is beginning to sell its self.

    Awfully warm for February......




    ...2020
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,091
    A program that’s “selling its self” would be doing better at this stage in comparison to the other blue bloods. Very simple and easy to prove true.

    I don’t care that udub takes its time in recruiting and typically requires a visit before a commit and then doesn’t like them taking other trips after committed. If that’s your strategy and you are the ceo (peterman) figure out a way to speed up the process- https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/.

    Let me know how far down you’re scrolling to find us.

    Nothing was said about the class being complete or a waste. PRESENT DAY COMPARISONS You fucking bitches.
  • Domicillo
    Domicillo Member Posts: 3,025

    A program that’s “selling its self” would be doing better at this stage in comparison to the other blue bloods. Very simple and easy to prove true.

    I don’t care that udub takes its time in recruiting and typically requires a visit before a commit and then doesn’t like them taking other trips after committed. If that’s your strategy and you are the ceo (peterman) figure out a way to speed up the process- https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/.

    Let me know how far down you’re scrolling to find us.

    Nothing was said about the class being complete or a waste. PRESENT DAY COMPARISONS You fucking bitches.

    Most of these schools that have more than 2 or 3 commits right now, get the bulk of them off of these big "junior days" or other dedicated underclassmen-centric visit days. Their goal is to get these groups of kids all hyped up together and then try to get commitments from as many as they can, acknowledging that most of them are still going to continue to take visits and consider other schools. Over the years Pete has completely done away with all these type of events where UW used to do this too. Even those of us who agree that the "don't accept a commitment until a kid has checked other schools out and is 100% ready to shut down the recruiting process" is probably a good approach for Pete, also recognize that we are missing out on a lot of publicity and excitement by not being being involved.

    For me, I think last spring we could have really benefited from doing this with all the 2020/21 WA talent, but it's such a pointless battle to fight at this point cause we know Pete's never going to change. It's also pointless to make sweeping statements based solely off the the number of "commitments" a school has a year out before they can sign.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,091
    I loath his recruiting tactic. It’s not a top 10 recruiting class blue blood tactic until it is.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    I loath his recruiting tactic. It’s not a top 10 recruiting class blue blood tactic until it is.

    Or it is until it isn't. How bout that?!
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425

    I loath his recruiting tactic. It’s not a top 10 recruiting class blue blood tactic until it is.

    Or it is until it isn't. How bout that?!
    Cash me ousside. How bout that!?
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Boner talks to Sevion every day! Lol, KB's priorities are so weird.

    He must have a hot little sister or cousin like Jacob sirmon
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425

    Boner talks to Sevion every day! Lol, KB's priorities are so weird.

    But he forgot Bijan's name for some reason? k
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    Boner talks to Sevion every day! Lol, KB's priorities are so weird.

    But he forgot Bijan's name for some reason? k
    Sevion must have a hot sister or mom or something ... Bijan probably just has brothers and a single dad ...
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912

    Boner talks to Sevion every day! Lol, KB's priorities are so weird.

    He must have a hot little sister or cousin like Jacob sirmon
    Woof!

    Dayummmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    animate said:

    Boner talks to Sevion every day! Lol, KB's priorities are so weird.

    But he forgot Bijan's name for some reason? k
    Sevion must have a hot sister or mom or something ... Bijan probably just has brothers and a single dad ...
    I hate how true this is.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    It's all schools within 1 or 2 states of him, then Georgia Tech and us.

    Chinteresting.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    We’re the school that is a definite outlier in that list ... makes me think that we’ve likely stopped recruiting him very hard