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Sevion Morrison, 2020 3* RB, Tulsa (Edison), OK (Offered 1/24/19)

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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    From 2015-2019, per 247, UW has offered 554 PSAs. In that time frame, we've offered 93 kids from Texas, about 17% of total offers. The Huskies signed 106 players from 2015-2019, with only 4 coming from Texas, about 4%.

    2015-2019 signees & offers by in our "region" by state (I'm excluding Idaho, Wyoming, Montana & New Mexico... Not enough FBS prospects) and the hit %:

    AZ: 5/32 = 15%
    CA: 43/252 = 17%
    CO: 0/7 = 0%
    HI: 6/22 = 27%
    NV: 1/12 = 8%
    OR: 5/12 = 41%
    UT: 4/29 = 13%
    WA: 33/34 = 97%

    Except for Colorado, the hit (signee) rate is still higher than in Texas.

    I probably fucked up my math (I was a psychology major) but you get the gist
    Good maff but it only means something if we somehow decide "offers" indicates how much time, energy, etc is spent on those commits.

    I don't believe the total investment in recruiting Texas has been anything close to 17%. I would guess it's a lot closer to the 4%.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Houhusky said:

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    How about just offer the best kids available that fit UW's culture? California doesn't have that many great RB prospects these days. Texas has deeper talent at that position right now.
    Its a waste of resources... Good RBs from Texas are not going to come to UW unless they have some unique prior connection to at least to the west coast.

    UW would struggle to directly recruit against UH, TT, TCU, SMU, or Baylor... Let alone actual big name schools recruiting top tier players like UT, TAMU, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, or Alabama

    USC is busy stabbing itself in the face, UCLA still doesn't care about football, Stanford glow is wearing thin, Arizona schools are stuck in mediocrity... there has never been an easier time for UW to not only lock down its own PNW area but to establish itself in California and Hawaii where kids actually know that its not Washington University from St. Louis that is calling them.

    Shit... WE? are going to lose Sam Adams from fucking Eastside Catholic to TAMU... and you want to spend resources diving into Texas????
    How would you know they won't come here unless the coaches try?

    Prior to building the Poly pipeline UW sucked at recruiting D-lineman. Now they're great at. You have to build that pipeline into Texas to have more success recruiting Texas. No reason they can't do it. Texas has elite football talent and Texas kids want to win. UW is winning. It's a perfect fit if you ask me.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,808 Swaye's Wigwam

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    From 2015-2019, per 247, UW has offered 554 PSAs. In that time frame, we've offered 93 kids from Texas, about 17% of total offers. The Huskies signed 106 players from 2015-2019, with only 4 coming from Texas, about 4%.

    2015-2019 signees & offers by in our "region" by state (I'm excluding Idaho, Wyoming, Montana & New Mexico... Not enough FBS prospects) and the hit %:

    AZ: 5/32 = 15%
    CA: 43/252 = 17%
    CO: 0/7 = 0%
    HI: 6/22 = 27%
    NV: 1/12 = 8%
    OR: 5/12 = 41%
    UT: 4/29 = 13%
    WA: 33/34 = 97%

    Except for Colorado, the hit (signee) rate is still higher than in Texas.

    I probably fucked up my math (I was a psychology major) but you get the gist
    Good maff but it only means something if we somehow decide "offers" indicates how much time, energy, etc is spent on those commits.

    I don't believe the total investment in recruiting Texas has been anything close to 17%. I would guess it's a lot closer to the 4%.
    Bingo. They offer guys early allow some time to gauge interest while expending a minimal amount of effort on them, then either move on or invest fully when it's time for the stretch run (say mid summer or so). People are making way too much of this.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.
  • ToddTurnerLIVES
    ToddTurnerLIVES Member Posts: 438

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    @NorwegianHusky This kid says his fastest 100 meter time is 10.5 and his fastest 40 is 4.4. Don't know what you're watching but like I said he's got burners. I recommend you defer to me for the talent evaluations.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    @NorwegianHusky This kid says his fastest 100 meter time is 10.5 and his fastest 40 is 4.4. Don't know what you're watching but like I said he's got burners. I recommend you defer to me for the talent evaluations.

    StrongArmCobra says she’s 6’6” with a BBC
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited January 2019

    Jayveon Sunday unofficially visited UW in hopes of receiving an offer. This kid Sevion Morrison already wants to visit UW right after getting an offer. They seem pretty interested to me. Definitely not a waste of time.

    If we had a recruiter who was worth a shit I would agree with you but it's Boner who would have to close this kid.
    The program is beginning to sell itself.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    @NorwegianHusky This kid says his fastest 100 meter time is 10.5 and his fastest 40 is 4.4. Don't know what you're watching but like I said he's got burners. I recommend you defer to me for the talent evaluations.

    StrongArmCobra says she’s 6’6” with a BBC
    Just because you're jealous and don't want it to be true doesn't mean it's not true.
  • TacoSoup
    TacoSoup Member Posts: 148

    The bitching on this board includes these statements:

    "We want more black kids on the team."

    "The coaches are limiting the talent pool available to them."

    "The coaches are avoiding kids from a different 'culture'."

    "Anything else Dennis says."

    The coaches proceed to offer a bunch of black kids from California, Texas, and Oklahoma. And not just suburban black kids either. Some of them are from areas that are known as, you know, "the hood".

    The boards response:

    "What the fuck are they doing?"

    "What is going on?"

    "Those kids are never coming here, it's a total waste of time."

    The irrational hypocrisy is stunning. How does nobody else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    Where's the black kids being offered in CA? All of these recent offers that we're reacting to are in the south. It has nothing to do with that. Jake Majors isn't black and he was also a pointless offer.

    Boner can't recruit black kids from LA or AZ, what the fuck makes you think he can get any from Texas or Oklahoma?
    13 out of the 16 Cali recruits offered for 2020 so far are black.

    Why can't UW get kids from Texas or Oklahoma? I'm seeing a lot of excitement from those kids on Twitter when they get a UW offer. A lot of "ooh that's a big one" type of stuff from their friends. Texas kids are about winning. UW is starting to sell itself. They should be able to get 2 or 3 guys from Texas every class.

    How the fuck are they ever supposed to get any of them if they don't try? Hmmmm?
    I’d be more impressed by their excitement if they posted the correct name of the University.

    For all the value/meaning the staff places on the offers.... how many offers have gone out to out of region kids for how many commits. Levi/Fuller/Curne

    For fucks sake, look at what happened with Kennedy Lewis that’s the likely scenario for most of these kids.

    Promise you we’d have a higher closing rate if we focus more on Cali with an RB coach that’s better at recruiting than he is at creeping Instagram/Twitter wannabe models.
    From 2015-2019, per 247, UW has offered 554 PSAs. In that time frame, we've offered 93 kids from Texas, about 17% of total offers. The Huskies signed 106 players from 2015-2019, with only 4 coming from Texas, about 4%.

    2015-2019 signees & offers by in our "region" by state (I'm excluding Idaho, Wyoming, Montana & New Mexico... Not enough FBS prospects) and the hit %:

    AZ: 5/32 = 15%
    CA: 43/252 = 17%
    CO: 0/7 = 0%
    HI: 6/22 = 27%
    NV: 1/12 = 8%
    OR: 5/12 = 41%
    UT: 4/29 = 13%
    WA: 33/34 = 97%

    Except for Colorado, the hit (signee) rate is still higher than in Texas.

    I probably fucked up my math (I was a psychology major) but you get the gist
    Good maff but it only means something if we somehow decide "offers" indicates how much time, energy, etc is spent on those commits.

    I don't believe the total investment in recruiting Texas has been anything close to 17%. I would guess it's a lot closer to the 4%.
    I came from the angle that UW (seemingly) doesn’t throw out offers and the evidence in Texas seems to indicate otherwise.

    I would say in terms of actual time, I agree it’s closer to 4%