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Airlines Say They’re Close to a ‘Tipping Point’ Due to the Shutdown

insinceredawg
insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

“We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,074 Founders Club
    Friday is tomorrow. A day early and still a dollar short
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
    A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

    U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

    “We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

    CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

    This sounds like a problem. It should be fixed.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited January 2019

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
    A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.



    https://guyjest.com/stewardess-makes-a-cool-million-bonking-passengers/

    The Throbber is available to avert any potential slowdown in the airline industry.

    Throbber 202
    Plus purple is red and blue but also makes women and gays feel okay.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
    A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.
    But a private business isn’t responsible for providing their own security. If you own a store and that store gets robbed you can call the police. I’m assuming you’re not against that. It’s not preventative the way TSA is but simply having a police force on the ground is a form of prevention. And given that we can’t police the sky the same way we police the ground and the massive threat that air travel can be (see 9/11), preventative seems like to best option to me.

    You seem focused on the private business aspect of this but to me your stance means American citizens have to forfeit their right to be protected from others in order to fly. In fact, I would argue making air travel security the responsibility of the airlines takes that right away from all Americans. Again, see 9/11.

    I’m trying to get your position. I will be honest I’ve understood this to be the libertarian position for awhile, always thought it sounded dumb, because it’s libertarian, but I’ve never really thought it through. I’m not going to agree with it but I’m having a hard time even making sense of it.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    I mean this as a genuine question, if it’s the governments job to protect me from you and vice versa why doesn’t that apply here?
    A private company is responsible for providing their own security. If they want to be in business they need to bear the costs and responsiblities.
    But a private business isn’t responsible for providing their own security. If you own a store and that store gets robbed you can call the police. I’m assuming you’re not against that. It’s not preventative the way TSA is but simply having a police force on the ground is a form of prevention. And given that we can’t police the sky the same way we police the ground and the massive threat that air travel can be (see 9/11), preventative seems like to best option to me.

    You seem focused on the private business aspect of this but to me your stance means American citizens have to forfeit their right to be protected from others in order to fly. In fact, I would argue making air travel security the responsibility of the airlines takes that right away from all Americans. Again, see 9/11.

    I’m trying to get your position. I will be honest I’ve understood this to be the libertarian position for awhile, always thought it sounded dumb, because it’s libertarian, but I’ve never really thought it through. I’m not going to agree with it but I’m having a hard time even making sense of it.
    If the airline gets robbed, they can call the police. If a store (or stripclub) wants security who check every person who enters the building, they pay for their own security.

    Airlines have no interest in allowing crimes to be committed while using their service and poor security would likely put them out of business. Without the current “system” they would replace it with one they control and pay for. Just my opinion.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/shutdown-pushes-aviation-system-to-tipping-point-airlines-say

    U.S. airline bosses stepped up their criticism of the partial government shutdown, warning that the closing threatens to snarl air travel.

    “We are close to a tipping point as employees are about to miss a second paycheck,’’ JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes said on a conference call Thursday with analysts and investors. “The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for the nation’s air travel infrastructure to rebound.’’

    CEOs at larger carriers backed him up, with American Airlines Group Inc.’s Doug Parker warning of “long lines’’ and “delayed airspace.’’ Southwest Airlines Co. said it lost out on as much as $15 million in sales this month because of the shutdown, and CEO Gary Kelly called the closing “maddening.”

    Fuck Off
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    I guess Gay Bob is too poor to travel anywhere so he's not worried about any impact to his life.



    Says the dipshit that wants the government to pay for his healthcare and provide him with "free" college.


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Yet Democrats won't vote for a bill to pay the furloughed workers, proving yet again Democrats really don't give a shit about the average working person.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yes I do. And so?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    but still
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    but still
    Let me show you the difference between me and everyone other one of you liberal Kunts that post here. I misspoke, the GOP opposed making them Unionized public employees not public employees.

    No days long jackass dance where I parse the meaning of "public" employee, no running and hiding like a Kunt. I misspoke. Unlike you pathetic libs my ego isn't so fragile that I can't admit when I'm wrong.

    The GOP opposed making them Unionized public employees.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    And the Rats decided to give those "socialized" public employees collective bargaining rights. The only reasons the Rats opposed making them public employees is because the GOP didn't want make them unionized employees. They had no fucking problem with the "Socialization."
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    Backpedal Bob.

    What a fucking muttonhead you are.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    Backpedal Bob.

    What a fucking muttonhead you are.
    And yet I routinely school your ignorant ass.

    Tell me, were the Rats opposed to making the TSA public employees? Yes or no Kunt?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    A 17 person committee is Congress now?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    Backpedal Bob.

    What a fucking muttonhead you are.
    And yet I routinely school your ignorant ass.

    Link?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    You fucking liar.

    Blatant history revision.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    Backpedal Bob.

    What a fucking muttonhead you are.
    And yet I routinely school your ignorant ass.

    Tell me, were the Rats opposed to making the TSA public employees? Yes or no Kunt?
    You need to heal yourself Kunt.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    A 17 person committee is Congress now?
    Who controlled the Congress in 2007 Hondo?


    By a 51-46 vote, the Senate kept the bargaining provision for screeners in broad anti-terrorism legislation that has already passed the House. Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania was the only Republican to cross party lines, joining 48 Democrats -- including California's Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein -- and two independents in voting to not to strike the provision from the bill.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    Backpedal Bob.

    What a fucking muttonhead you are.
    And yet I routinely school your ignorant ass.

    Tell me, were the Rats opposed to making the TSA public employees? Yes or no Kunt?
    You need to heal yourself Kunt.
    Shocking, the Kunt dodged the question.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    A 17 person committee is Congress now?
    No the Congress is the Congress and collective bargaining rights were grant to the TSA on nearly a straight party line vote, with the GOP voting no and the Rats voting yes.

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    You fucking liar.

    Blatant history revision.
    I misspoke, should have said they opposed making them unionized public employees not public employees.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    Bob. Fucktarded as always.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll425.xml
    They weren't unionized. That's why the Rats opposed it. After the Rats took over the Congress one of the first things they did was to give the TSA collective bargaining rights. I should have been clearer with my comments.

    WASHINGTON -- A Senate committee voted Thursday to give airport screeners the collective bargaining and whistleblower protection rights that many other federal employees have.

    On a strict party-line vote, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee agreed, while all the Republicans voted against, giving the screeners the right to join a union and to be protected from retaliation if they report wrongdoing.

    The measure, which is opposed by the Bush administration, passed on a vote of 9-8.
    A 17 person committee is Congress now?
    No the Congress is the Congress and collective bargaining rights were gran

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    The airlines should hire, pay for, and maintain their own security. It’s in their best interest to do so. Why is it a government task?

    Because Bush and Republicans decided to socialize airport story after 9/11. Don't you remember? It was private before then.
    Yeah it was just Bush and the Republicans that were pushing for the TSA to be public employees. And you have the gall to call other people liars.

    There was opposition to making them public employees, it all came from the Republicans, all the Rats supported it and some Republicans. This is just like your lie about TARP being passed by the Republicans.
    You fucking liar.

    Blatant history revision.
    I misspoke, should have said they opposed making them unionized public employees not public employees.
    I'm enjoying your meltdown. If you want a way out, just bump a bunch of old threads and @DerekReallyIsKim will give you a time out.