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Again, relate those policies to the downfall of Venezuela.MikeDamone said:
Elizabeth Warren has some good ideas2001400ex said:
What politician is promoting the same politics that bright Venezuela to where it is? Supporting your advert with facts about their position and the issues in Venezuela would be great.SFGbob said:
Sweet gezus are you a pathetic dumbfuck. Good to see Hondo doesn't speak in talking points.2001400ex said:But but but Venezuela!!!!!
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/elizabeth-warren-accountable-capitalism-act/ -
I never said they did. I said she has some good ideas that might really keep us out of a Venezuela type situation. I mean giving government more power over corporations would never lead to anything remotely like Venezuela. There is really no comparison in the way, over years, Venezuela slowly and methodically put greater control over private enterprise. Her proposal would never lead to that. I don’t know what your yapping about. She’s onto some things that will really accelerate wealth creation.2001400ex said:
Again, relate those policies to the downfall of Venezuela.MikeDamone said:
Elizabeth Warren has some good ideas2001400ex said:
What politician is promoting the same politics that bright Venezuela to where it is? Supporting your advert with facts about their position and the issues in Venezuela would be great.SFGbob said:
Sweet gezus are you a pathetic dumbfuck. Good to see Hondo doesn't speak in talking points.2001400ex said:But but but Venezuela!!!!!
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/elizabeth-warren-accountable-capitalism-act/ -
I know you are being sarcastic. But you are still full of shit.MikeDamone said:
I never said they did. I said she has some good ideas that might really keep us out of a Venezuela type situation. I mean giving government more power over corporations would never lead to anything remotely like Venezuela. There is really no comparison in the way, over years, Venezuela slowly and methodically put greater control over private enterprise. Her proposal would never lead to that. I don’t know what your yapping about. She’s onto some things that will really accelerate wealth creation.2001400ex said:
Again, relate those policies to the downfall of Venezuela.MikeDamone said:
Elizabeth Warren has some good ideas2001400ex said:
What politician is promoting the same politics that bright Venezuela to where it is? Supporting your advert with facts about their position and the issues in Venezuela would be great.SFGbob said:
Sweet gezus are you a pathetic dumbfuck. Good to see Hondo doesn't speak in talking points.2001400ex said:But but but Venezuela!!!!!
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/elizabeth-warren-accountable-capitalism-act/ -
Yes they are diversified now, they weren’t always so. There was nothing stopping Venezuela from diversifying their economy.greenblood said:
you might want to research Bahrain's and Qatar's oil production. It isn't much.SFGbob said:
So then Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar should all be economic basket cases like Venezuela.2001400ex said:
Someone gets it.greenblood said:Venezuela is what you get when 95% of your country's economy is reliant on a single resource.
Kuwait is also much more diversified than you think.
The fact that Venezuela got so much of their income from oil doesn’t explain why they are a shithole today. -
I believe I did. The fact you’re trying to decouple their spending from their socialist policies just further exposes you for the dishonest dumbfuck you are.2001400ex said:
So you don't want to address the point. Got it.SFGbob said:And of course their socialist policies had nothing to do with their spending.
Good for you Hondo regarding Medicare only took you 5 days to admit you’re a dumbfuck, of course you’re still wrong, but the first step can’t begin until you admit you’re a fucking moron
“Misspoke”. I believe that’s Kunt for put your head up your ass. -
Exactly. Just like saying socialism is the reason they are a shit hole.SFGbob said:
Yes they are diversified now, they weren’t always so. There was nothing stopping Venezuela from diversifying their economy.greenblood said:
you might want to research Bahrain's and Qatar's oil production. It isn't much.SFGbob said:
So then Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar should all be economic basket cases like Venezuela.2001400ex said:
Someone gets it.greenblood said:Venezuela is what you get when 95% of your country's economy is reliant on a single resource.
Kuwait is also much more diversified than you think.
The fact that Venezuela got so much of their income from oil doesn’t explain why they are a shithole today. -
Oil failed because Venezuela being socialist seized the oil industry. They didn't know how to run it. Why would the people that do stay? This happens in every socialist takeover. History much?2001400ex said:
Why did I know you'd go to Medicare. STFU and stay on task. Yes I misspoke on Medicare and it is what it is. There is still a trust fund for part A, so what I said was partially correct, but I forgot about part D which was unfunded.SFGbob said:
Fuck you and you "do your research" you fucking moron, I bury you ignorant ass here every fucking day and after I've exposed you for the dumbfuck you are you run and hide like a fucking Kunt.2001400ex said:
Other people not so much. Do some research man. Stay off Fox news and talk radio. There's a wealth of information at your fingertips.SFGbob said:
Socialism is the issue in Venezuela.2001400ex said:
So you don't want to address the question in this thread? I mean you talked about free medical and free college. Neither of which has to do with the issues in Venezuela.SFGbob said:
I did address it. A fucking moron who claims that Medicare doesn't add to our deficit has no business telling anyone else they need to educate themselves. It's like listening to marriage counseling from Scott Peterson.2001400ex said:
I see you won't address the question either. Stop being a pussy and just screaming Venezuela like your news source does.SFGbob said:
Yeah "learn" from Hondo the same fucking moron who claims Medicare doesn't add to our deficit and that we only allow 60K a year of legal immigrants into this country each year.2001400ex said:
That's not what I said. I asked what politician is advocating the same policies that took Venezuelan down. I'd stay off Fox news and talk radio and actually learn about the issues in Venezuela.WestlinnDuck said:Free college isn't free shit? Free health care isn't free shit? Free housing isn't free shit? Free food isn't free shit?
In fact, big bad China that Trump is trying to keep from passing our economy is actually full communist. Why are you so worried about them, shouldn't their communism take them down any day?
Take a look at that thread where you put your head up your ass and claimed Medicare doesn't add to our deficit.
Simply being heavily reliant on oil isn't what destroyed the Venezuela economy. Massive government borrowing and spending to pay for their Socialist utopia is what destroyed them. No Socialism, and Venezuela is just fine.
That being said, I educated myself and understand thar issue. You still don't have a clue on Venezuela. You just hear what your news source says, think it applies to America, and rail on about it without actually educating yourself.
The core issue with Venezuela was spending more than they take in and not having and further credit when oil fell and spending didn't. Then it started the cycle. Then you try to apply free college and medical and compare it to Venezuela. Here's a new flash for you, we have a deficit spending problem in America too. Another shocker, the people you voted for and suck their balls increased the deficit the last two years in a period with an economic expansion, when the deficit should be shrinking. That's what you should be railing on, not comparing us to Venezuela when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. -
You used to make $15,000/month and had $10,000/month in essential expenses. Now you make $5,000/month but have $12,000/month in essential expenses. That's what's going on in Venezuela. Yes they should have diversified their economy. Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar did years ago, before the price of oil collapsed. It's too late for Venezuela to diversify. Diversifying takes capital, and Venezuela doesn't have any, and because of US sanctions, their ability to get financing is damn near impossible. The only financing they can get is from Russia and China with horrible terms, and who get paid back in oil. Problem being, this oil production eats up any domestic product they receive because instead of selling it, it's being used to pay interest.SFGbob said:
Yes they are diversified now, they weren’t always so. There was nothing stopping Venezuela from diversifying their economy.greenblood said:
you might want to research Bahrain's and Qatar's oil production. It isn't much.SFGbob said:
So then Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar should all be economic basket cases like Venezuela.2001400ex said:
Someone gets it.greenblood said:Venezuela is what you get when 95% of your country's economy is reliant on a single resource.
Kuwait is also much more diversified than you think.
The fact that Venezuela got so much of their income from oil doesn’t explain why they are a shithole today.
The only way Venezuela can be fixed is with a regime change, and the forgiveness of some past debt. Their oil industry will then become foreign owned, and that would force them to diversify, because their cash cow oil industry wouldn't belong to them anymore. The one problem with this is that many countries still wouldn't be go with this, because Venezuela has had prior history of nationalizing and seizing foreign companies. It would have to be tightly controlled.
But yes, Socialism sucks. Socialism is what prevented Venezuela from cutting spending when times got tough. I think they'd still be screwed, but I think the fall would have been much much slower. -
Most of the ownership of business in China is owned by the government and they sure are doing fine with economic growth. HTHSledog said:
Oil failed because Venezuela being socialist seized the oil industry. They didn't know how to run it. Why would the people that do stay? This happens in every socialist takeover. History much?2001400ex said:
Why did I know you'd go to Medicare. STFU and stay on task. Yes I misspoke on Medicare and it is what it is. There is still a trust fund for part A, so what I said was partially correct, but I forgot about part D which was unfunded.SFGbob said:
Fuck you and you "do your research" you fucking moron, I bury you ignorant ass here every fucking day and after I've exposed you for the dumbfuck you are you run and hide like a fucking Kunt.2001400ex said:
Other people not so much. Do some research man. Stay off Fox news and talk radio. There's a wealth of information at your fingertips.SFGbob said:
Socialism is the issue in Venezuela.2001400ex said:
So you don't want to address the question in this thread? I mean you talked about free medical and free college. Neither of which has to do with the issues in Venezuela.SFGbob said:
I did address it. A fucking moron who claims that Medicare doesn't add to our deficit has no business telling anyone else they need to educate themselves. It's like listening to marriage counseling from Scott Peterson.2001400ex said:
I see you won't address the question either. Stop being a pussy and just screaming Venezuela like your news source does.SFGbob said:
Yeah "learn" from Hondo the same fucking moron who claims Medicare doesn't add to our deficit and that we only allow 60K a year of legal immigrants into this country each year.2001400ex said:
That's not what I said. I asked what politician is advocating the same policies that took Venezuelan down. I'd stay off Fox news and talk radio and actually learn about the issues in Venezuela.WestlinnDuck said:Free college isn't free shit? Free health care isn't free shit? Free housing isn't free shit? Free food isn't free shit?
In fact, big bad China that Trump is trying to keep from passing our economy is actually full communist. Why are you so worried about them, shouldn't their communism take them down any day?
Take a look at that thread where you put your head up your ass and claimed Medicare doesn't add to our deficit.
Simply being heavily reliant on oil isn't what destroyed the Venezuela economy. Massive government borrowing and spending to pay for their Socialist utopia is what destroyed them. No Socialism, and Venezuela is just fine.
That being said, I educated myself and understand thar issue. You still don't have a clue on Venezuela. You just hear what your news source says, think it applies to America, and rail on about it without actually educating yourself.
The core issue with Venezuela was spending more than they take in and not having and further credit when oil fell and spending didn't. Then it started the cycle. Then you try to apply free college and medical and compare it to Venezuela. Here's a new flash for you, we have a deficit spending problem in America too. Another shocker, the people you voted for and suck their balls increased the deficit the last two years in a period with an economic expansion, when the deficit should be shrinking. That's what you should be railing on, not comparing us to Venezuela when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. -
True...but how much growth is because of intellectual theft?2001400ex said:
Most of the ownership of business in China is owned by the government and they sure are doing fine with economic growth. HTHSledog said:
Oil failed because Venezuela being socialist seized the oil industry. They didn't know how to run it. Why would the people that do stay? This happens in every socialist takeover. History much?2001400ex said:
Why did I know you'd go to Medicare. STFU and stay on task. Yes I misspoke on Medicare and it is what it is. There is still a trust fund for part A, so what I said was partially correct, but I forgot about part D which was unfunded.SFGbob said:
Fuck you and you "do your research" you fucking moron, I bury you ignorant ass here every fucking day and after I've exposed you for the dumbfuck you are you run and hide like a fucking Kunt.2001400ex said:
Other people not so much. Do some research man. Stay off Fox news and talk radio. There's a wealth of information at your fingertips.SFGbob said:
Socialism is the issue in Venezuela.2001400ex said:
So you don't want to address the question in this thread? I mean you talked about free medical and free college. Neither of which has to do with the issues in Venezuela.SFGbob said:
I did address it. A fucking moron who claims that Medicare doesn't add to our deficit has no business telling anyone else they need to educate themselves. It's like listening to marriage counseling from Scott Peterson.2001400ex said:
I see you won't address the question either. Stop being a pussy and just screaming Venezuela like your news source does.SFGbob said:
Yeah "learn" from Hondo the same fucking moron who claims Medicare doesn't add to our deficit and that we only allow 60K a year of legal immigrants into this country each year.2001400ex said:
That's not what I said. I asked what politician is advocating the same policies that took Venezuelan down. I'd stay off Fox news and talk radio and actually learn about the issues in Venezuela.WestlinnDuck said:Free college isn't free shit? Free health care isn't free shit? Free housing isn't free shit? Free food isn't free shit?
In fact, big bad China that Trump is trying to keep from passing our economy is actually full communist. Why are you so worried about them, shouldn't their communism take them down any day?
Take a look at that thread where you put your head up your ass and claimed Medicare doesn't add to our deficit.
Simply being heavily reliant on oil isn't what destroyed the Venezuela economy. Massive government borrowing and spending to pay for their Socialist utopia is what destroyed them. No Socialism, and Venezuela is just fine.
That being said, I educated myself and understand thar issue. You still don't have a clue on Venezuela. You just hear what your news source says, think it applies to America, and rail on about it without actually educating yourself.
The core issue with Venezuela was spending more than they take in and not having and further credit when oil fell and spending didn't. Then it started the cycle. Then you try to apply free college and medical and compare it to Venezuela. Here's a new flash for you, we have a deficit spending problem in America too. Another shocker, the people you voted for and suck their balls increased the deficit the last two years in a period with an economic expansion, when the deficit should be shrinking. That's what you should be railing on, not comparing us to Venezuela when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
