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Asa "Mercer" Turner (the Trevor Lawrence of WC DBs), 4* 2019 S, Carlsbad (HS), CA (Committed)

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  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
    HillsboroDuck said:

    So IF Turner signs with ND (not convinced he will but feels likely) what’s the play here? My hope is we don’t immediately offer anyone way down the list but wait and see who doesn’t sign and poach the hell out of somebody between signing periods.

    I would punt on the position and take 5 guys next year. Next years class is loaded at that spot.
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  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    insinceredawg said:

    All CBs pointing towards the purple and gold for Ika.

    God I swear LSU's recruiting philosophy for DTs is just going into their scouting database and clicking 'sort by weight'.

    Apu Ika may be three fiddy, but Tyler Shelvin is 362 and used to be 376. Dom Livingston is 350 as well. Ed Alexander is 331.

    LSU has all the thiccest nose tackles man.
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  • dougthedawg
    dougthedawg Member Posts: 184
    greenblood said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    Someone should let him know that ND is using their one good season every 10 years this year so if he goes there they will be dog shit.

    I laffed at the "global network" and "setting you up for life" bits. These are the same people that think Chicago is a "world class city".
    I'm sure there are a lot of "sociology" connections for the kid at Notre Dame. Let's be real, how many of these kids actually take serious courses while playing football?
    ND is one of the very few schools that make their football players take calculus.

    They have self reported players cheating on assignmemts. Makes them probably the only ncaa school to ever self report that. Most schools help the kids cheat.

    They may be dusty has beens in the shittiest state in the country, but the academic thing for the football players is legit.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    KrunkJuice said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    So IF Turner signs with ND (not convinced he will but feels likely) what’s the play here? My hope is we don’t immediately offer anyone way down the list but wait and see who doesn’t sign and poach the hell out of somebody between signing periods.

    I would punt on the position and take 5 guys next year. Next years class is loaded at that spot.
    We've been told it's Ranson and nobody else at safety next year.

    I don't know if this is true but what makes you say it's so stacked?

    I'm not real comfortable losing 5 DB's this year and only taking 3, I think we have to take at least 4 and I'd be open to 5.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    I'm not worried. I just don't think he would betray the UW coaches at the last minute like this. He seems too nice to do that. There's a huge difference between wavering between two great schools and programs and actually picking up the phone to tell the UW coaches you're signing with Notre Dame. If he's too nice of a kid to do that then this recruitment has been over since he committed to UW. At some point today I would bet he gets fed up with the stress and the pressure of the situation he's in and just says "I'm over this, I'm just gonna stick with UW and be done with this shit."

    Worst case scenario I think is he and his parents decide he needs more time to make a final decision so he won't sign early. If that happens UW still has an advantage with him playing in the Poly bowl with a million UW commits there with him making him feel wanted at the player level and peer recruiting the shit out of him.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    StrongArmCobra said:

    I'm not worried. I just don't think he would betray the UW coaches at the last minute like this. He seems too nice to do that. There's a huge difference between wavering between two great schools and programs and actually picking up the phone to tell the UW coaches you're signing with Notre Dame. If he's too nice of a kid to do that then this recruitment has been over since he committed to UW. At some point today I would bet he gets fed up with the stress and the pressure of the situation he's in and just says "I'm over this, I'm just gonna stick with UW and be done with this shit."

    Worst case scenario I think is he and his parents decide he needs more time to make a final decision so he won't sign early. If that happens UW still has an advantage with him playing in the Poly bowl with a million UW commits there with him making him feel wanted at the player level and peer recruiting the shit out of him.

    Him not signing in the early period is great for us. No way we lose him then.

    If he signs tomorrow, who knows?
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    StrongArmCobra said:

    I'm not worried. I just don't think he would betray the UW coaches at the last minute like this. He seems too nice to do that. .

    Wow so you know him personally?
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    dougthedawg said:

    greenblood said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    Someone should let him know that ND is using their one good season every 10 years this year so if he goes there they will be dog shit.

    I laffed at the "global network" and "setting you up for life" bits. These are the same people that think Chicago is a "world class city".
    I'm sure there are a lot of "sociology" connections for the kid at Notre Dame. Let's be real, how many of these kids actually take serious courses while playing football?
    ND is one of the very few schools that make their football players take calculus.

    They have self reported players cheating on assignmemts. Makes them probably the only ncaa school to ever self report that. Most schools help the kids cheat.

    They may be dusty has beens in the shittiest state in the country, but the academic thing for the football players is legit.
    #MyIrish
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  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    AF9705 said:

    FremontTroll said:

    HuskyClaws said:

    Tom Loy referencing Foskey and Turner, "I expect, based on the Intel I continue to hear, both will be in Notre Dame’s class."

    What was the handle of that hack Notre Dame poster? Why isn't he over here rubbing it in?
    Hack?
    LOL

    You should read your own site. So much misinformation & meltdowns on here it’s comical.

    And I don’t spread rumors like a 13 year old girl, so nothing to “rub in.”
    The truth is nobody knows & if they say they do they are lying. I’ve talked to two different people who both said the same thing, which is Asa hasn’t decided yet, so everybody is just talking out their rear with “flip” talk.

    Agree.


    None of the writers know anything. They all have sources who are giving their best guesses but reading all accounts from both UW and ND sources, the kid is torn.

    He likes ND and what they have to offer and was blown away by his visit. He loves Jimmy Lake and seems to have the closest bond with him.

    He wants to play Safety and has seen what Jimmy Lake has done with his DBs over the last 5 years and how he gets them to the league. He's got the size of Zeke and JoJo, but is a better player than both.

    How hard would it be to feel like you belong one place, but you have a close bond with a coach somewhere else and are trying to also make a business decision about getting to the NFL.

    He'd be a fucking monster in our? defense and he knows it. He's just struggling, which is why he keeps deleting his twatter and likes twats from both fan bases.

    I honestly feel for the kid.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited December 2018
    CuntWaffle said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    I'm not worried. I just don't think he would betray the UW coaches at the last minute like this. He seems too nice to do that. .

    Wow so you know him personally?
    No, which is why I used words such as "I think" and "he seems too nice". I don't know for sure but that's what my intuition is telling me about this kid.
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  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
    HillsboroDuck said:

    KrunkJuice said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    So IF Turner signs with ND (not convinced he will but feels likely) what’s the play here? My hope is we don’t immediately offer anyone way down the list but wait and see who doesn’t sign and poach the hell out of somebody between signing periods.

    I would punt on the position and take 5 guys next year. Next years class is loaded at that spot.
    We've been told it's Ranson and nobody else at safety next year.

    I don't know if this is true but what makes you say it's so stacked?

    I'm not real comfortable losing 5 DB's this year and only taking 3, I think we have to take at least 4 and I'd be open to 5.
    I agree with your points but I don't want to offer someone to just offer him. Zion Alefosio, Makell Easton and JJ Greenfield are three 2020 guys on top of Ransom that can fit the bill. I obviously don't think we will have any problems filling our CB needs for the class. Then there is always guys that come on the scene late in the summer.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    KrunkJuice said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    KrunkJuice said:

    HillsboroDuck said:

    So IF Turner signs with ND (not convinced he will but feels likely) what’s the play here? My hope is we don’t immediately offer anyone way down the list but wait and see who doesn’t sign and poach the hell out of somebody between signing periods.

    I would punt on the position and take 5 guys next year. Next years class is loaded at that spot.
    We've been told it's Ranson and nobody else at safety next year.

    I don't know if this is true but what makes you say it's so stacked?

    I'm not real comfortable losing 5 DB's this year and only taking 3, I think we have to take at least 4 and I'd be open to 5.
    I agree with your points but I don't want to offer someone to just offer him. Zion Alefosio, Makell Easton and JJ Greenfield are three 2020 guys on top of Ransom that can fit the bill. I obviously don't think we will have any problems filling our CB needs for the class. Then there is always guys that come on the scene late in the summer.
    Turner isn't coming here to play Cb though, he's coming to play safety.

    IMO we either wait until the late signing period and see who is still available or offer McMillan immediately.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    StrongArmCobra said:

    I'm not worried. I just don't think he would betray the UW coaches at the last minute like this. He seems too nice to do that. There's a huge difference between wavering between two great schools and programs and actually picking up the phone to tell the UW coaches you're signing with Notre Dame. If he's too nice of a kid to do that then this recruitment has been over since he committed to UW. At some point today I would bet he gets fed up with the stress and the pressure of the situation he's in and just says "I'm over this, I'm just gonna stick with UW and be done with this shit."

    Worst case scenario I think is he and his parents decide he needs more time to make a final decision so he won't sign early. If that happens UW still has an advantage with him playing in the Poly bowl with a million UW commits there with him making him feel wanted at the player level and peer recruiting the shit out of him.

    Let’s get something straight ...

    You do what you think is best for you and those closest to you ... you don’t make a decision based on not wanting to piss others off
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  • AF9705
    AF9705 Member Posts: 181
    I’m going to throw something else out that will ruffle some feathers on here, it shouldn’t, but it will for some reason...

    Turner is not a “DB” & is not a Safety in the way people on here think. I don’t like to discuss player evaluation & X&O’s because people get really upset, but I will in this case.

    He already has the frame of an OLB at the collegiate level. He has a better chance of playing drop end in college than Safety. No way on earth is he playing Safety in the NFL.

    Every, I mean every, scout who has reviewed him, has said what I just said. Lake is telling him Safety & touting DBs in the NFL because it is a recruiting tactic. UW will use him as the crashing Safety in their 4-2-5 the exact way ND uses a Rover in their D. Every player at ND who has played Rover is a former HS Safety.

    Kid is 6’4 & over 220 already. He isn’t playing “DB” at the next level. With his frame he will end up 235-240.
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  • AF9705
    AF9705 Member Posts: 181
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    AF9705 said:

    I’m going to throw something else out that will ruffle some feathers on here, it shouldn’t, but it will for some reason...

    Turner is not a “DB” & is not a Safety in the way people on here think. I don’t like to discuss player evaluation & X&O’s because people get really upset, but I will in this case.

    He already has the frame of an OLB at the collegiate level. He has a better chance of playing drop end in college than Safety. No way on earth is he playing Safety in the NFL.

    Every, I mean every, scout who has reviewed him, has said what I just said. Lake is telling him Safety & touting DBs in the NFL because it is a recruiting tactic. UW will use him as the crashing Safety in their 4-2-5 the exact way ND uses a Rover in their D. Every player at ND who has played Rover is a former HS Safety.

    Kid is 6’4 & over 220 already. He isn’t playing “DB” at the next level. With his frame he will end up 235-240.

    Reminds me a lot of Earl Thomas, tbh
    Earl Thomas had speed, explosion & ball skills unlike most players I have ever seen.
    Turner is nowhere that level. Very few players ever have been.
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  • Edwin_Bambino
    Edwin_Bambino Member Posts: 2,944
    AF9705 said:

    I’m going to throw something else out that will ruffle some feathers on here, it shouldn’t, but it will for some reason...

    Turner is not a “DB” & is not a Safety in the way people on here think. I don’t like to discuss player evaluation & X&O’s because people get really upset, but I will in this case.

    He already has the frame of an OLB at the collegiate level. He has a better chance of playing drop end in college than Safety. No way on earth is he playing Safety in the NFL.

    Every, I mean every, scout who has reviewed him, has said what I just said. Lake is telling him Safety & touting DBs in the NFL because it is a recruiting tactic. UW will use him as the crashing Safety in their 4-2-5 the exact way ND uses a Rover in their D. Every player at ND who has played Rover is a former HS Safety.

    Kid is 6’4 & over 220 already. He isn’t playing “DB” at the next level. With his frame he will end up 235-240.

    Yea dude your right, it’s a recruiting tactic, it’s not like we have a linebacker this year who was the DPOY in the Pac 12 and a 1st team all American. We are definitely trying to hide that type of player development from our recruits! Fuck out of here.
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    AF9705 said:

    I’m going to throw something else out that will ruffle some feathers on here, it shouldn’t, but it will for some reason...

    Turner is not a “DB” & is not a Safety in the way people on here think. I don’t like to discuss player evaluation & X&O’s because people get really upset, but I will in this case.

    He already has the frame of an OLB at the collegiate level. He has a better chance of playing drop end in college than Safety. No way on earth is he playing Safety in the NFL.

    Every, I mean every, scout who has reviewed him, has said what I just said. Lake is telling him Safety & touting DBs in the NFL because it is a recruiting tactic. UW will use him as the crashing Safety in their 4-2-5 the exact way ND uses a Rover in their D. Every player at ND who has played Rover is a former HS Safety.

    Kid is 6’4 & over 220 already. He isn’t playing “DB” at the next level. With his frame he will end up 235-240.

    Who plays this role in current UW defense? Where is UW hiding all these safeties that are actually LBs?
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    ByronMurphyTheGoat said:

    AF9705 said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    AF9705 said:

    I’m going to throw something else out that will ruffle some feathers on here, it shouldn’t, but it will for some reason...

    Turner is not a “DB” & is not a Safety in the way people on here think. I don’t like to discuss player evaluation & X&O’s because people get really upset, but I will in this case.

    He already has the frame of an OLB at the collegiate level. He has a better chance of playing drop end in college than Safety. No way on earth is he playing Safety in the NFL.

    Every, I mean every, scout who has reviewed him, has said what I just said. Lake is telling him Safety & touting DBs in the NFL because it is a recruiting tactic. UW will use him as the crashing Safety in their 4-2-5 the exact way ND uses a Rover in their D. Every player at ND who has played Rover is a former HS Safety.

    Kid is 6’4 & over 220 already. He isn’t playing “DB” at the next level. With his frame he will end up 235-240.

    Reminds me a lot of Earl Thomas, tbh
    Earl Thomas had speed, explosion & ball skills unlike most players I have ever seen.
    Turner is nowhere that level. Very few players ever have been.
    Barry Sanders clone?
    I prefer a BIG BACK
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  • Domicillo
    Domicillo Member Posts: 3,025
    Tequilla said:

    You can be a bigger safety like Kam Chancellor ... but your point about size is a fair one

    That being said, what does Defensive football look like in 5 years as athletic TEs become more and more the norm?

    Hybrid DBs/LBs likely become more of a norm

    Yup as long as Stanford is gonna keep calling their 6’7 WRs “TEs”, there is a role for bigger DBs.
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  • Bread
    Bread Member Posts: 4,067
    AF9705 said:

    I’m going to throw something else out that will ruffle some feathers on here, it shouldn’t, but it will for some reason...

    Turner is not a “DB” & is not a Safety in the way people on here think. I don’t like to discuss player evaluation & X&O’s because people get really upset, but I will in this case.

    He already has the frame of an OLB at the collegiate level. He has a better chance of playing drop end in college than Safety. No way on earth is he playing Safety in the NFL.

    Every, I mean every, scout who has reviewed him, has said what I just said. Lake is telling him Safety & touting DBs in the NFL because it is a recruiting tactic. UW will use him as the crashing Safety in their 4-2-5 the exact way ND uses a Rover in their D. Every player at ND who has played Rover is a former HS Safety.

    Kid is 6’4 & over 220 already. He isn’t playing “DB” at the next level. With his frame he will end up 235-240.

    Ok you have convinced me! Between Turner and Trice we have finally replaced Feeney and Littleton. Now we will be unstoppable!
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    RaceBannon said:

    It's only a matter of time before power running makes a comeback due to defense slimming down to defend the spread. Seeing it in the NFL some already

    For all the talk about what a great passer Tua is Bama still wants to run the ball. And Clemson still relies on Etiane when the going gets tough


    You have to run and you have to stop the run to win football games = Captain Obvious here

    Race weren’t you present when the prophet Mohammed said that running football will lead to wins? It was true then, now, and in the future
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