Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez exposes corrupt “orientation”

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allpurpleallgold said:

Oh look more anecdotal evidence.

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[As to how the UW team’s findings jibe with the Seattle area’s very low unemployment rate, tight labor market, and anecdotes from hospitality employers desperately seeking low-wage workers, Vigdor said that, based on data and what he’s hearing from employers, businesses are looking to hire those with more experience.

“Traditionally, a high proportion of workers in the low-wage market are not experienced at all: teens with their first jobs, immigrants with their first jobs here,” he said. “Data is pointing to: Since we have to pay more, employers are looking for people with experience who can do the job from Day 1.”]

With an increase in supply(artificial price increase) and a decrease in demand employers can be selective for even minimum wage jobs.

This is happening in California where we also increased the minimum wage. I've actually been watching this squeeze a number of our friends with shoe shine degrees that are "artists" & "actors". You've gotta have at least 5 yrs experience, a clean record, and be willing to jump through a bunch of hoops just to get a job as a barista working for minimum wage plus tips. Mind you, you'll still be working less than 30 hours so that they don't have to give you benefits(per artificial state law) and you'll have a hard time picking up a second job because no one wants to(or has to) put up with an employee with two jobs and a schedule conflict. Don't like it? Fuck you, someone else will happily take the job because supply outpaces demand when the government creates a price floor. It's almost like basic economics has some grounding in reality.

Of course, none of this is the fault of the government's artificial economic planning, it's all just greedy corporations so we actually need moar regulation of the already highly regulated labor market.

It also ensures lots of people working for minimum wage are stuck on government benefits and will continue to vote for the people making them dependent on those benefits.

Oh look more anecdotal evidence. Well I talked to all my friends in California and Washington and they said everything you’ve said is false. It’s almost like this is the internet and I can just say shit.

We can keep bickering about this but truth is it’s irrelevant. A bunch of politicians ran on your bullshit, they called themselves the tea party, and where are they now? Meanwhile the majority of Americans support raising the minimum wage and 70% support Medicare for all. So you can keep thinking you’re the smartest guy in the room but what good is it when you can’t convince other people that you’re right?

It was an observation which was never meant to be more than anecdote that related my experience to actual empirical evidence in a study. Of which, you have never provided anything to the contrary.

What's hilarious is that you call that out as invalid and then resort to a bandwagon fallacy based solely on your opinion that the policy you advocate for is more popular. Except that if it was, it would already be more widespread and furthermore, popular doesn't make something right or true. A majority of the population can buy the flat earth theory. The earth will still won't be round.

SFGbob said:

You’re still a punchline, the fact that you’ve been able to sway a bunch of economic and historical illiterates doesn’t remove the fact that you’re still a joke.