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Trent McDuffie, 2019 4* DB, Bellflower (Bosco), CA (COMMITTED)
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We are doing a really good job at getting very good players at (almost) every position. The floor for our classes at this point is extremely high, these are really fucking good classes.
But if we want to actually compete for nattys we need to start getting some really elite players, and Malloe is really the only coach who has shown the ability to do that. (Lake obviously great too, but he's different) -
*whoseDennis_DeYoung said:The amount of things that would have to go correctly for us to land a REAL class next year are basically the amount of things that have gone well in the entire Pete era + 20%.
Pete just isn't really serious about recruiting. It's pretty much that simple. If he were, there's no way Boner, Greggy, Paopao and Lubick would be anywhere near a job after early signing day.
I've been paying really close attention to the top 2 teams in every conference. We aren't close guys.
The issue is that we just don't take it that seriously. So, like this year - EVERY position needs to look like what our DBs look like at the minimum. That's a typical top 10 class.
We think that's ASTOUNDING - but really it's just average for top 10 teams.
We really need to change our expectations from 'good for a second tier P12 team' to a Top 10 in the country team.
For all teams in the top 10 we are by far recruiting the worst (outside of UCF).
Again, we have been the best overall program in the Pac for the last 3 years and we can't score a top 5 WR on the coast. One of whom's brother is on our team.
The thing is - the space between where we are (which is pretty good) and where we are going to need to be to seriously contend, we are stile miles and miles away.
If we close with Ford/Bru, Wright, Latu, Heimuli, Henry and McDuffie - then we are getting there.
Let's look at the top 20 teams in 247's composite ratings...
When you look at the amount of top 300 players (over .90 rating, basically) in all classes (and USC) you can see where things are for us:
Bammer: 20
Texas: 13
UGA: 12
Fla. State: 11
Notre Dame: 11
TAMU: 11
Clemson: 10
LSU: 10
Ohio State: 10
Oregon: 10
Oklahoma: 9
Penn State: 9
Auburn: 8
Michigan: 8
Florida: 7
Tennessee: 7
Mississippi State: 6
Stanford: 6
USC: 6
Miami: 5
Arkansas: 4
Ole Miss: 4
South Carolina: 4
Washington: 4
So, basically we'd be tied for 9th in the SEC in terms of elite players.
ACC - Tied for 4th
Big XII - 3rd
Big 10 - 4th
Pac 10 - 4th
So, that's the reality of our top end talent. I'd like to see this number be 8 for us next year. And it's easily possible.
Smalls
Flowe
Ricks
Ringo
Wilson
Bijan
Jay Butterfield
Clark Phillips
Gee Scott (lulz)
Gary Bryant
Jalen McMillan
Ngata
Botelho
Hatchett
DJ Rogers
Matt Sykes
Joran Banks
etc -
Keep Dick Newton’s name out of your mouthCuntWaffle said:
Dick Newton, Jordan Chin, and Daniel Bridge-GaddGrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is. -
What kind of brand do you need to recruit in-state OL? How in the hell can we not get Hatchett when Locker is coaching there and Pete is winning? What kind of kid grows up here dreaming of playing at fucking Oklahoma?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc. -
He’s not going to OklahomaBleachedAnusDawg said:
What kind of brand do you need to recruit in-state OL? How in the hell can we not get Hatchett when Locker is coaching there and Pete is winning? What kind of kid grows up here dreaming of playing at fucking Oklahoma?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc. -
If authorities ask for my cause of death, please refer them to DDY’s last post.
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Stop being a fucking Doog.Neighbor2972 said:We are doing a really good job at getting very good players at (almost) every position. The floor for our classes at this point is extremely high, these are really fucking good classes.
But if we want to actually compete for nattys we need to start getting some really elite players, and Malloe is really the only coach who has shown the ability to do that. (Lake obviously great too, but he's different)
We've been to 3 NY6 games in a row. What has PSU won that we haven't? Has Oregon done something special on the field to merit how they are recruiting? Everyone always has excuses.
Before you say 'oh, but Oregon blah blah blah'
If we get Charbonnet, Ngata, Heimuli, McDuffie, Latu, Wright in this class, then we are right where we need to be. That would be a class I feel is just as good as anyone's. So, if we have real recruiters at RB, TE and WR - we are basically there: THIS YEAR. -
I really don’t see how he’s dooging in this post, he’s essentially reiterating what you’ve said.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Stop being a fucking Doog.Neighbor2972 said:We are doing a really good job at getting very good players at (almost) every position. The floor for our classes at this point is extremely high, these are really fucking good classes.
But if we want to actually compete for nattys we need to start getting some really elite players, and Malloe is really the only coach who has shown the ability to do that. (Lake obviously great too, but he's different)
We've been to 3 NY6 games in a row. What has PSU won that we haven't? Has Oregon done something special on the field to merit how they are recruiting? Everyone always has excuses.
Before you say 'oh, but Oregon blah blah blah'
If we get Charbonnet, Ngata, Heimuli, McDuffie, Latu, Wright in this class, then we are right where we need to be. That would be a class I feel is just as good as anyone's. So, if we have real recruiters at RB, TE and WR - we are basically there: THIS YEAR. -
Going by the 247 ratings, we have 11 guys in this class at 90 or above. The composite rankings drop 6 of our players above .892 but below .90, barely missing that cutoff.Dennis_DeYoung said:The amount of things that would have to go correctly for us to land a REAL class next year are basically the amount of things that have gone well in the entire Pete era + 20%.
Pete just isn't really serious about recruiting. It's pretty much that simple. If he were, there's no way Boner, Greggy, Paopao and Lubick would be anywhere near a job after early signing day.
I've been paying really close attention to the top 2 teams in every conference. We aren't close guys.
The issue is that we just don't take it that seriously. So, like this year - EVERY position needs to look like what our DBs look like at the minimum. That's a typical top 10 class.
We think that's ASTOUNDING - but really it's just average for top 10 teams.
We really need to change our expectations from 'good for a second tier P12 team' to a Top 10 in the country team.
For all teams in the top 10 we are by far recruiting the worst (outside of UCF).
Again, we have been the best overall program in the Pac for the last 3 years and we can't score a top 5 WR on the coast. One of whom's brother is on our team.
The thing is - the space between where we are (which is pretty good) and where we are going to need to be to seriously contend, we are stile miles and miles away.
If we close with Ford/Bru, Wright, Latu, Heimuli, Henry and McDuffie - then we are getting there.
Let's look at the top 20 teams in 247's composite ratings...
When you look at the amount of top 300 players (over .90 rating, basically) in all classes (and USC) you can see where things are for us:
Bammer: 20
Texas: 13
UGA: 12
Fla. State: 11
Notre Dame: 11
TAMU: 11
Clemson: 10
LSU: 10
Ohio State: 10
Oregon: 10
Oklahoma: 9
Penn State: 9
Auburn: 8
Michigan: 8
Florida: 7
Tennessee: 7
Mississippi State: 6
Stanford: 6
USC: 6
Miami: 5
Arkansas: 4
Ole Miss: 4
South Carolina: 4
Washington: 4
So, basically we'd be tied for 9th in the SEC in terms of elite players.
ACC - Tied for 4th
Big XII - 3rd
Big 10 - 4th
Pac 10 - 4th
So, that's the reality of our top end talent. I'd like to see this number be 8 for us next year. And it's easily possible.
Smalls
Flowe
Ricks
Ringo
Wilson
Bijan
Jay Butterfield
Clark Phillips
Gee Scott (lulz)
Gary Bryant
Jalen McMillan
Ngata
Botelho
Hatchett
DJ Rogers
Matt Sykes
Joran Banks
etc
Going by average rating, we are at .90 (247 rankings) if you take out the kicker, which is the 10th highest average in the country. That's higher than teams like Texas A&M, Clemson, LSU, Texas, Michigan, and Florida. -
Read paragraph two, I'm agreeing with you, lolDennis_DeYoung said:
Stop being a fucking Doog.Neighbor2972 said:We are doing a really good job at getting very good players at (almost) every position. The floor for our classes at this point is extremely high, these are really fucking good classes.
But if we want to actually compete for nattys we need to start getting some really elite players, and Malloe is really the only coach who has shown the ability to do that. (Lake obviously great too, but he's different)
We've been to 3 NY6 games in a row. What has PSU won that we haven't? Has Oregon done something special on the field to merit how they are recruiting? Everyone always has excuses.
Before you say 'oh, but Oregon blah blah blah'
If we get Charbonnet, Ngata, Heimuli, McDuffie, Latu, Wright in this class, then we are right where we need to be. That would be a class I feel is just as good as anyone's. So, if we have real recruiters at RB, TE and WR - we are basically there: THIS YEAR. -
Yeah, I don't know why I thought that. Oh well. Stop being a Doog anyway. All of you. Me too.FKA_Mousecop said:
I really don’t see how he’s dooging in this post, he’s essentially reiterating what you’ve said.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Stop being a fucking Doog.Neighbor2972 said:We are doing a really good job at getting very good players at (almost) every position. The floor for our classes at this point is extremely high, these are really fucking good classes.
But if we want to actually compete for nattys we need to start getting some really elite players, and Malloe is really the only coach who has shown the ability to do that. (Lake obviously great too, but he's different)
We've been to 3 NY6 games in a row. What has PSU won that we haven't? Has Oregon done something special on the field to merit how they are recruiting? Everyone always has excuses.
Before you say 'oh, but Oregon blah blah blah'
If we get Charbonnet, Ngata, Heimuli, McDuffie, Latu, Wright in this class, then we are right where we need to be. That would be a class I feel is just as good as anyone's. So, if we have real recruiters at RB, TE and WR - we are basically there: THIS YEAR. -
Yeah, I struggled with where to make the cutoff. I was just trying to illustrate a point and the reality is any of these things are slightly inaccurate.HuskyClaws said:
Going by the 247 ratings, we have 11 guys in this class at 90 or above. The composite rankings drop 6 of our players above .892 but below .90, barely missing that cutoff.Dennis_DeYoung said:The amount of things that would have to go correctly for us to land a REAL class next year are basically the amount of things that have gone well in the entire Pete era + 20%.
Pete just isn't really serious about recruiting. It's pretty much that simple. If he were, there's no way Boner, Greggy, Paopao and Lubick would be anywhere near a job after early signing day.
I've been paying really close attention to the top 2 teams in every conference. We aren't close guys.
The issue is that we just don't take it that seriously. So, like this year - EVERY position needs to look like what our DBs look like at the minimum. That's a typical top 10 class.
We think that's ASTOUNDING - but really it's just average for top 10 teams.
We really need to change our expectations from 'good for a second tier P12 team' to a Top 10 in the country team.
For all teams in the top 10 we are by far recruiting the worst (outside of UCF).
Again, we have been the best overall program in the Pac for the last 3 years and we can't score a top 5 WR on the coast. One of whom's brother is on our team.
The thing is - the space between where we are (which is pretty good) and where we are going to need to be to seriously contend, we are stile miles and miles away.
If we close with Ford/Bru, Wright, Latu, Heimuli, Henry and McDuffie - then we are getting there.
Let's look at the top 20 teams in 247's composite ratings...
When you look at the amount of top 300 players (over .90 rating, basically) in all classes (and USC) you can see where things are for us:
Bammer: 20
Texas: 13
UGA: 12
Fla. State: 11
Notre Dame: 11
TAMU: 11
Clemson: 10
LSU: 10
Ohio State: 10
Oregon: 10
Oklahoma: 9
Penn State: 9
Auburn: 8
Michigan: 8
Florida: 7
Tennessee: 7
Mississippi State: 6
Stanford: 6
USC: 6
Miami: 5
Arkansas: 4
Ole Miss: 4
South Carolina: 4
Washington: 4
So, basically we'd be tied for 9th in the SEC in terms of elite players.
ACC - Tied for 4th
Big XII - 3rd
Big 10 - 4th
Pac 10 - 4th
So, that's the reality of our top end talent. I'd like to see this number be 8 for us next year. And it's easily possible.
Smalls
Flowe
Ricks
Ringo
Wilson
Bijan
Jay Butterfield
Clark Phillips
Gee Scott (lulz)
Gary Bryant
Jalen McMillan
Ngata
Botelho
Hatchett
DJ Rogers
Matt Sykes
Joran Banks
etc
Going by average rating, we are at .90 (247 rankings) if you take out the kicker, which is the 10th highest average in the country. That's higher than teams like Texas A&M, Clemson, LSU, Texas, Michigan, and Florida.
If you look above 95 we have the same kind of thing. The reality is that our guys are not top 150-200 types.
The issue is that, no matter how you do this analysis, when you look for elite guys whatever way, we don't have as many of them. -
I want to do anPassion said:I tried to do an in-home vist, but the McDuffie family asked who I was and then threatened to call the police if I didn’t get off their porch.
Does he drink coffee?DoogCourics said:
I could believe we? fuck up next year but I don’t believe Huard will allow us? to fuck yo 2021.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
He’s going to make sure he is playing with studs and not waste his 4 years.
CIFC
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Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc. -
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the top 3sTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc. -
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc. -
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc. -
Mosster47 said:
This one has been over for awhile. He takes his ACT next week. If he makes it into Stanford then that is where he is going. If he doesn't then he is a Duck.
Mosster47 said:Biggins said he did well enough on the ACT to get into Stanford. He is just getting a free vacay out of you guys.
Mosster47 said:Congrats. McDuffie is going to play for Stanford.
Mosster47 said:
The Stanford qualifiers should know soon and that will decide where McDuffie goes.
I wonder if he actually believes everything that he writes. -
Thank you for your service ...Neighbor2972 said:
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc.
The way I see things is actually not favorable for the PAC 12 as a whole but good for UW. If you are a West Coast kid that wants to stay on the West Coast, then the school to compete at the highest level with is going to be UW. Here's why:
Oregon: Herbert is a great QB (everybody says so - I don't agree but whatever). They were the proverbial Sark-ish 5-4 this year in conference and there's really nothing about what Cristoballz is doing to the program that is of substance ... it's all hype. And yes, I know that we lost to them this year but whatever. I really don't see them as anything more than a 6-3 or 7-2 at best team under the current regime (and I'm probably stretching it). They are going to be 8-4 at best next year.
Stanford has hit their ceiling under David Shaw. In the last 5 years in conference, Shaw's gone 5-4, 8-1, 6-3, 7-2, and 6-3. We'll really see what things look like next year as the odd years are the years where Stanford gets everybody at home. I don't really really feel like they are recruiting at the same level with really good evidence of that being how terrible their OL was this year. Their offense is completely dependent on throwing tall passes to tall WRs and TEs. Defensively they are ok but lack dynamic athletes in general. They are probably good enough to say in the 6 win range in conference but I don't think it's a given that they are able to win direct recruiting battles with UW (at least not to the level that they did 3-5 years ago).
UCLA is partly an issue for UW with Chip. You can tell that his team got better the 2nd half of the season and I expect that to continue into next year. Chip will be helped in recruiting and that's primary a concern to me defensively. Offensively, I'm not worried about the QB position (we're not recruiting the same players) and I'm not sure that the WR position is a massive issue either. RB could be a significant issue.
USC is just flat out laughable at this point. Let's see how they finish up this year and who they hire. Kingsbury is a dude bruh disaster but whatever. He's going spread and taking away the advantage that USC typically has. Yes, they will get WRs but we have the DBs so whatever. Spread teams typically are soft and that's SC's biggest issue. Their assistant hires so far are just flat out laughable. Go look up the Wikipedia page for Mike Jinks. It's fucking comical. The Kauha'aha'a hire at DL is probably a decent one but it's been a while since he has even sniffed the homes that he's going to be getting into but it's a direct response to getting some Poly competition for Malloe who has been owning their ass. The reality is that Helton's going to get fired after this year and the start of the year for SC is going to be downright brutal. -
HOW DARE YOU? u long winded fuck. Charles Clay Helton is the second best football coach at any level on the west coast and second only to Joye Thomas.Tequilla said:
Thank you for your service ...Neighbor2972 said:
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc.
The way I see things is actually not favorable for the PAC 12 as a whole but good for UW. If you are a West Coast kid that wants to stay on the West Coast, then the school to compete at the highest level with is going to be UW. Here's why:
Oregon: Herbert is a great QB (everybody says so - I don't agree but whatever). They were the proverbial Sark-ish 5-4 this year in conference and there's really nothing about what Cristoballz is doing to the program that is of substance ... it's all hype. And yes, I know that we lost to them this year but whatever. I really don't see them as anything more than a 6-3 or 7-2 at best team under the current regime (and I'm probably stretching it). They are going to be 8-4 at best next year.
Stanford has hit their ceiling under David Shaw. In the last 5 years in conference, Shaw's gone 5-4, 8-1, 6-3, 7-2, and 6-3. We'll really see what things look like next year as the odd years are the years where Stanford gets everybody at home. I don't really really feel like they are recruiting at the same level with really good evidence of that being how terrible their OL was this year. Their offense is completely dependent on throwing tall passes to tall WRs and TEs. Defensively they are ok but lack dynamic athletes in general. They are probably good enough to say in the 6 win range in conference but I don't think it's a given that they are able to win direct recruiting battles with UW (at least not to the level that they did 3-5 years ago).
UCLA is partly an issue for UW with Chip. You can tell that his team got better the 2nd half of the season and I expect that to continue into next year. Chip will be helped in recruiting and that's primary a concern to me defensively. Offensively, I'm not worried about the QB position (we're not recruiting the same players) and I'm not sure that the WR position is a massive issue either. RB could be a significant issue.
USC is just flat out laughable at this point. Let's see how they finish up this year and who they hire. Kingsbury is a dude bruh disaster but whatever. He's going spread and taking away the advantage that USC typically has. Yes, they will get WRs but we have the DBs so whatever. Spread teams typically are soft and that's SC's biggest issue. Their assistant hires so far are just flat out laughable. Go look up the Wikipedia page for Mike Jinks. It's fucking comical. The Kauha'aha'a hire at DL is probably a decent one but it's been a while since he has even sniffed the homes that he's going to be getting into but it's a direct response to getting some Poly competition for Malloe who has been owning their ass. The reality is that Helton's going to get fired after this year and the start of the year for SC is going to be downright brutal. -
Helton will be VERY LUCKY to see 2020 on the SC sideline ... the battle was won by having Helton on the sideline for 2019 ... there's still a lot of damage that he can do in the next 9-12 months.WeakarmCobra said:
HOW DARE YOU? u long winded fuck. Charles Clay Helton is the second best football coach at any level on the west coast and second only to Joye Thomas.Tequilla said:
Thank you for your service ...Neighbor2972 said:
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc.
The way I see things is actually not favorable for the PAC 12 as a whole but good for UW. If you are a West Coast kid that wants to stay on the West Coast, then the school to compete at the highest level with is going to be UW. Here's why:
Oregon: Herbert is a great QB (everybody says so - I don't agree but whatever). They were the proverbial Sark-ish 5-4 this year in conference and there's really nothing about what Cristoballz is doing to the program that is of substance ... it's all hype. And yes, I know that we lost to them this year but whatever. I really don't see them as anything more than a 6-3 or 7-2 at best team under the current regime (and I'm probably stretching it). They are going to be 8-4 at best next year.
Stanford has hit their ceiling under David Shaw. In the last 5 years in conference, Shaw's gone 5-4, 8-1, 6-3, 7-2, and 6-3. We'll really see what things look like next year as the odd years are the years where Stanford gets everybody at home. I don't really really feel like they are recruiting at the same level with really good evidence of that being how terrible their OL was this year. Their offense is completely dependent on throwing tall passes to tall WRs and TEs. Defensively they are ok but lack dynamic athletes in general. They are probably good enough to say in the 6 win range in conference but I don't think it's a given that they are able to win direct recruiting battles with UW (at least not to the level that they did 3-5 years ago).
UCLA is partly an issue for UW with Chip. You can tell that his team got better the 2nd half of the season and I expect that to continue into next year. Chip will be helped in recruiting and that's primary a concern to me defensively. Offensively, I'm not worried about the QB position (we're not recruiting the same players) and I'm not sure that the WR position is a massive issue either. RB could be a significant issue.
USC is just flat out laughable at this point. Let's see how they finish up this year and who they hire. Kingsbury is a dude bruh disaster but whatever. He's going spread and taking away the advantage that USC typically has. Yes, they will get WRs but we have the DBs so whatever. Spread teams typically are soft and that's SC's biggest issue. Their assistant hires so far are just flat out laughable. Go look up the Wikipedia page for Mike Jinks. It's fucking comical. The Kauha'aha'a hire at DL is probably a decent one but it's been a while since he has even sniffed the homes that he's going to be getting into but it's a direct response to getting some Poly competition for Malloe who has been owning their ass. The reality is that Helton's going to get fired after this year and the start of the year for SC is going to be downright brutal. -
Wilson has UW with usc, Oregon, northwestern, Fresno State.Neighbor2972 said:
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc.
Ringo has all but ruled out Ohio State after the urban Meyers escapades. And looks like Texas, Oregon, USC, UW
Ricks wants to get paid LSU, Ohio State, USC but ya know jimmy lake has a huge dick
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Ringo - if Murphy gets drafted in Round 1 Peterman and Lake will have the inside track. Murphy is almost a program changer in that he went the surprise route, was super successful and is moving to the next level.
Momma will have to see this and understand that the development for Ringo will lead to NFL riches ... more likely than him going anywhere else that is currently in his heart/head. This is also why we need our NFL'ers to maintain a high profile and do well, it helps sell the "path to the NFL" narrative ...
Smalls? If UW keeps the trajectory I see him going purple. I think UW has been good enough and for long enough for it to get inside many of the local kid's heads/emotions, coffee cups notwithstanding. This goes for JT and the like. The only thing i'm worried about is the lack of direct UW connection to the NFL with his position ...
Just recently, with BBK getting all this recognition and accolades it can only bode well for UW for the likes of Heimuli, Botelho etc ... if an undersized white dude can develop and be a high profile positional piece of the UW defence then what can they do in replacing him? That's what i'd be selling to the croots. "hey, check it out ... we helped BBK reach his potential ... you can do the same and reach even greater heights ..."
As for croots like Wilson and other WRs I am not as confident because i'm still suffering from Browning PTSD ... and I think that croots will want to get a dose of Eason to really see into the future. If guys like N'Keal Harry can be a 1st rounder from ASU it undermines UW's recruiting effort in that area. Having S.Huard sign up so early can only help in generating excitement and interest for the future.
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Dude you giving these kids too much credit. They are not that thoughtful at that age. It is an instant gratification generation. You need to find ways to stay relevant in their eyes.animate said:Ringo - if Murphy gets drafted in Round 1 Peterman and Lake will have the inside track. Murphy is almost a program changer in that he went the surprise route, was super successful and is moving to the next level.
Momma will have to see this and understand that the development for Ringo will lead to NFL riches ... more likely than him going anywhere else that is currently in his heart/head. This is also why we need our NFL'ers to maintain a high profile and do well, it helps sell the "path to the NFL" narrative ...
Smalls? If UW keeps the trajectory I see him going purple. I think UW has been good enough and for long enough for it to get inside many of the local kid's heads/emotions, coffee cups notwithstanding. This goes for JT and the like. The only thing i'm worried about is the lack of direct UW connection to the NFL with his position ...
Just recently, with BBK getting all this recognition and accolades it can only bode well for UW for the likes of Heimuli, Botelho etc ... if an undersized white dude can develop and be a high profile positional piece of the UW defence then what can they do in replacing him? That's what i'd be selling to the croots. "hey, check it out ... we helped BBK reach his potential ... you can do the same and reach even greater heights ..."
As for croots like Wilson and other WRs I am not as confident because i'm still suffering from Browning PTSD ... and I think that croots will want to get a dose of Eason to really see into the future. If guys like N'Keal Harry can be a 1st rounder from ASU it undermines UW's recruiting effort in that area. Having S.Huard sign up so early can only help in generating excitement and interest for the future. -
If they are as good as they appear and coaching stays consistent, it doesn’t matter what connection UW has or doesn’t haveanimate said:Ringo - if Murphy gets drafted in Round 1 Peterman and Lake will have the inside track. Murphy is almost a program changer in that he went the surprise route, was super successful and is moving to the next level.
Momma will have to see this and understand that the development for Ringo will lead to NFL riches ... more likely than him going anywhere else that is currently in his heart/head. This is also why we need our NFL'ers to maintain a high profile and do well, it helps sell the "path to the NFL" narrative ...
Smalls? If UW keeps the trajectory I see him going purple. I think UW has been good enough and for long enough for it to get inside many of the local kid's heads/emotions, coffee cups notwithstanding. This goes for JT and the like. The only thing i'm worried about is the lack of direct UW connection to the NFL with his position ...
Just recently, with BBK getting all this recognition and accolades it can only bode well for UW for the likes of Heimuli, Botelho etc ... if an undersized white dude can develop and be a high profile positional piece of the UW defence then what can they do in replacing him? That's what i'd be selling to the croots. "hey, check it out ... we helped BBK reach his potential ... you can do the same and reach even greater heights ..."
As for croots like Wilson and other WRs I am not as confident because i'm still suffering from Browning PTSD ... and I think that croots will want to get a dose of Eason to really see into the future. If guys like N'Keal Harry can be a 1st rounder from ASU it undermines UW's recruiting effort in that area. Having S.Huard sign up so early can only help in generating excitement and interest for the future. -
Sanctions would be nice going away giftTequilla said:
Helton will be VERY LUCKY to see 2020 on the SC sideline ... the battle was won by having Helton on the sideline for 2019 ... there's still a lot of damage that he can do in the next 9-12 months.WeakarmCobra said:
HOW DARE YOU? u long winded fuck. Charles Clay Helton is the second best football coach at any level on the west coast and second only to Joye Thomas.Tequilla said:
Thank you for your service ...Neighbor2972 said:
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc.
The way I see things is actually not favorable for the PAC 12 as a whole but good for UW. If you are a West Coast kid that wants to stay on the West Coast, then the school to compete at the highest level with is going to be UW. Here's why:
Oregon: Herbert is a great QB (everybody says so - I don't agree but whatever). They were the proverbial Sark-ish 5-4 this year in conference and there's really nothing about what Cristoballz is doing to the program that is of substance ... it's all hype. And yes, I know that we lost to them this year but whatever. I really don't see them as anything more than a 6-3 or 7-2 at best team under the current regime (and I'm probably stretching it). They are going to be 8-4 at best next year.
Stanford has hit their ceiling under David Shaw. In the last 5 years in conference, Shaw's gone 5-4, 8-1, 6-3, 7-2, and 6-3. We'll really see what things look like next year as the odd years are the years where Stanford gets everybody at home. I don't really really feel like they are recruiting at the same level with really good evidence of that being how terrible their OL was this year. Their offense is completely dependent on throwing tall passes to tall WRs and TEs. Defensively they are ok but lack dynamic athletes in general. They are probably good enough to say in the 6 win range in conference but I don't think it's a given that they are able to win direct recruiting battles with UW (at least not to the level that they did 3-5 years ago).
UCLA is partly an issue for UW with Chip. You can tell that his team got better the 2nd half of the season and I expect that to continue into next year. Chip will be helped in recruiting and that's primary a concern to me defensively. Offensively, I'm not worried about the QB position (we're not recruiting the same players) and I'm not sure that the WR position is a massive issue either. RB could be a significant issue.
USC is just flat out laughable at this point. Let's see how they finish up this year and who they hire. Kingsbury is a dude bruh disaster but whatever. He's going spread and taking away the advantage that USC typically has. Yes, they will get WRs but we have the DBs so whatever. Spread teams typically are soft and that's SC's biggest issue. Their assistant hires so far are just flat out laughable. Go look up the Wikipedia page for Mike Jinks. It's fucking comical. The Kauha'aha'a hire at DL is probably a decent one but it's been a while since he has even sniffed the homes that he's going to be getting into but it's a direct response to getting some Poly competition for Malloe who has been owning their ass. The reality is that Helton's going to get fired after this year and the start of the year for SC is going to be downright brutal. -
Can't you let a man doog in peace?WeakarmCobra said:
Dude you giving these kids too much credit. They are not that thoughtful at that age. It is an instant gratification generation. You need to find ways to stay relevant in their eyes.animate said:Ringo - if Murphy gets drafted in Round 1 Peterman and Lake will have the inside track. Murphy is almost a program changer in that he went the surprise route, was super successful and is moving to the next level.
Momma will have to see this and understand that the development for Ringo will lead to NFL riches ... more likely than him going anywhere else that is currently in his heart/head. This is also why we need our NFL'ers to maintain a high profile and do well, it helps sell the "path to the NFL" narrative ...
Smalls? If UW keeps the trajectory I see him going purple. I think UW has been good enough and for long enough for it to get inside many of the local kid's heads/emotions, coffee cups notwithstanding. This goes for JT and the like. The only thing i'm worried about is the lack of direct UW connection to the NFL with his position ...
Just recently, with BBK getting all this recognition and accolades it can only bode well for UW for the likes of Heimuli, Botelho etc ... if an undersized white dude can develop and be a high profile positional piece of the UW defence then what can they do in replacing him? That's what i'd be selling to the croots. "hey, check it out ... we helped BBK reach his potential ... you can do the same and reach even greater heights ..."
As for croots like Wilson and other WRs I am not as confident because i'm still suffering from Browning PTSD ... and I think that croots will want to get a dose of Eason to really see into the future. If guys like N'Keal Harry can be a 1st rounder from ASU it undermines UW's recruiting effort in that area. Having S.Huard sign up so early can only help in generating excitement and interest for the future.
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He’s giving sanctions by staying and recruitingWeakarmCobra said:
Sanctions would be nice going away giftTequilla said:
Helton will be VERY LUCKY to see 2020 on the SC sideline ... the battle was won by having Helton on the sideline for 2019 ... there's still a lot of damage that he can do in the next 9-12 months.WeakarmCobra said:
HOW DARE YOU? u long winded fuck. Charles Clay Helton is the second best football coach at any level on the west coast and second only to Joye Thomas.Tequilla said:
Thank you for your service ...Neighbor2972 said:
Of the top 100ish guys we've offered (that we actually have some shot at)Tequilla said:
I’m looking for the DDY top 3 we are competing withDomicillo said:
Top 12s are the new top 8s which were the new top 5s which were the topTequilla said:
Are we at a spot where we have Top 3’s or so for each guy?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly. I think there are like 10 guys next year we are in on who are elite. But honestly, I don't have much hope.HillsboroDuck said:
Kelee would be the best recruit Pete's ever signed and he could be as low as the third best recruit in next year's class depending on where you rank Hatchett.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Bryon, Taylor, Tuli. Hunter. We don't really get many of these guys.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Who from the last 3 classes would you call truly, truly elite°?Dennis_DeYoung said:
This. I want to see senior film on a couple of these guys. I think the guys we were in on who were truly, truly elite we lost all of them but Tuitele (Ngata, Charbonnet, McCoy).HillsboroDuck said:
IMOSwaye said:
Of our current/likely commits who is truly ELITE?Dennis_DeYoung said:
...but still.bananasnblondes said:
Aren't Steele and Wright ranked slightly higher?Dennis_DeYoung said:Oh, just the #1 rated CB in the West. No big deal.
Yeah, Chris Steele is probably a better prospect and is ranked higher. Wright and him are essentially at the same point.
I don't understand rankings for recruits, frankly. I think you can kind of separate them into tiers, but that's about it. Either way, McDuffie is not an ELITE player (there aren't any elite CBs on the WC this year), but he's damn good. Pretty impressive bit of recruiting by Jimmy Lake.
Commits
Tuitele
Bandes
Spam
Likely
Heimuli
That’s it. Latu, Paama the rest of the DBs and all of the OL are a small step below. If we somehow get Ford he’s there.
I think Spam is close. I think Heimuli is.
Our recruiting has a long ways to go. We are doing better than ever, but if we want to be a top 5 team our classes have to be consistently top 10.
Next year we have a real shot, but we will probably find a way to cock it up.
Smalls could be the best recruit UW's ever signed.
And 2021 could be as good or better at the top.
Or we could whiff on them all not named Huard.
#TimeToLevelUp
QB: Bryce Young we are still recruiting, but we got blown out for him even though they will have a new coach and they have a new OC.
RB: We didn't even make Kendall Milton's top 10; Bijan Robinson is elite and likes us, but I don't see any way we get him.
WR: Johnny Wilson is elite. I don't think we will get him.
OL: Hatchett is elite - Coker thinks he's going to Oklahoma. I think we have a good shot, but we shall see. Myles Murao is pretty fucking elite. Maybe?
OLB: Smalls obviously, but I'm not optimistic. Pete Latu is elite, but I don't think he has the grades, sadly.
LB: Justin Flowe - lol no. Botelho is up there.
DB: Ringo, Ricks.
Out of all these guys I don't see any obvious wins. Murao is probably closest, but you always have to assume anyone good at MD is going to USC.
Smalls and Ringo are possible, but Ringo's mom is probably going to bone us. Smalls is a hard call. I still don't think we have the 'brand' that attracts these kinds of players. That's why we can't seem to get the Fozzies, etc.
Young - We were top 3 with OU when he committed to SC
Bijan - Too early
Wilson - Too early
Hatchett - Yes top 3, Ou & tOSU
Murao - Top 3, probably going to USC
Smalls - Top 3, Bama/whovever
Flowe - Too early
Bothelo - Top 3, but early, probably USC & Oregon
Ringo - Top 3, tOSU & Texas
Ricks - Too early, probably USC
Ngata - Probably top 3, Clemson, maybe Michigan, I don't think we get him
Gary Bryant - Top 3 for now
Jalen McMillan - Probably top 5, Oregon, USC, etc.
Lathan Ransom - Probably top 5, Stanford, ND, USC etc.
The way I see things is actually not favorable for the PAC 12 as a whole but good for UW. If you are a West Coast kid that wants to stay on the West Coast, then the school to compete at the highest level with is going to be UW. Here's why:
Oregon: Herbert is a great QB (everybody says so - I don't agree but whatever). They were the proverbial Sark-ish 5-4 this year in conference and there's really nothing about what Cristoballz is doing to the program that is of substance ... it's all hype. And yes, I know that we lost to them this year but whatever. I really don't see them as anything more than a 6-3 or 7-2 at best team under the current regime (and I'm probably stretching it). They are going to be 8-4 at best next year.
Stanford has hit their ceiling under David Shaw. In the last 5 years in conference, Shaw's gone 5-4, 8-1, 6-3, 7-2, and 6-3. We'll really see what things look like next year as the odd years are the years where Stanford gets everybody at home. I don't really really feel like they are recruiting at the same level with really good evidence of that being how terrible their OL was this year. Their offense is completely dependent on throwing tall passes to tall WRs and TEs. Defensively they are ok but lack dynamic athletes in general. They are probably good enough to say in the 6 win range in conference but I don't think it's a given that they are able to win direct recruiting battles with UW (at least not to the level that they did 3-5 years ago).
UCLA is partly an issue for UW with Chip. You can tell that his team got better the 2nd half of the season and I expect that to continue into next year. Chip will be helped in recruiting and that's primary a concern to me defensively. Offensively, I'm not worried about the QB position (we're not recruiting the same players) and I'm not sure that the WR position is a massive issue either. RB could be a significant issue.
USC is just flat out laughable at this point. Let's see how they finish up this year and who they hire. Kingsbury is a dude bruh disaster but whatever. He's going spread and taking away the advantage that USC typically has. Yes, they will get WRs but we have the DBs so whatever. Spread teams typically are soft and that's SC's biggest issue. Their assistant hires so far are just flat out laughable. Go look up the Wikipedia page for Mike Jinks. It's fucking comical. The Kauha'aha'a hire at DL is probably a decent one but it's been a while since he has even sniffed the homes that he's going to be getting into but it's a direct response to getting some Poly competition for Malloe who has been owning their ass. The reality is that Helton's going to get fired after this year and the start of the year for SC is going to be downright brutal. -
bumping for myselfNeighbor2972 said: -
Expect a woof soon he just committed, this according to @fudgepack don’t twist
